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Confidence is on the floor, not just with the players but the manager and the fans as well. So yes it's a big problem.

 

It's solved in one easy move, sack Pardew since its him who has brought everyone down with his negative talk, shit football and excuses for the last year.

 

Confidence is a problem depending how widely you cast the net. In a whole club sense then yes. As a team; a coherent gameplan comes before gaining the confidence to implement and sustain it.

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I was basically meaning this season will bigger indication of where we are at as side. Man city away, anything would have been a bonus, we got the expected tanking, but now two home games back to back, get a win against West Ham and kick on from there, i said pre-season if we get 6 points from our first 3 games, that would be a great start and once confidence is built we could really kick on. I haven't changed my opinion after the shambles of Man City because i know they will rip a lot of teams open and we aren't the only ones who will be crucified down there. West Ham/Fulham is where our true fate lies and is a bigger indication of how our season will pan out. I don't see what is entirely wrong with that tbh. Apart from the fact i have faith in the players on the pitch on Saturday to get those 3 points for us. With a fit confident Ben Arfa on our side, anything is possible.

 

I don't see what's wrong with measuring ourselves against West Ham and Fulham either. The problem is our display on Monday was utterly inept, we still have a weak squad, confidence is a major factor and the pressure going into West Ham already feels like a game towards the end of the season not the 2nd game. West Ham and Fulham have both strengthened and will be coming here confident of getting something.

 

I'm not saying we we won't or can't win but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see two poor results.

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Confidence is on the floor, not just with the players but the manager and the fans as well. So yes it's a big problem.

 

It's solved in one easy move, sack Pardew since its him who has brought everyone down with his negative talk, shit football and excuses for the last year.

 

Confidence is a problem depending how widely you cast the net. In a whole club sense then yes. As a team; a coherent gameplan comes before gaining the confidence to implement and sustain it.

 

Well low confidence is a knock on effect (from things like poor tsctics, player sales, poor results, poor manageent) it just compounds the misery and pulls us faster on the downwards spiral we are on. Only a sacking will rescue it IMO. Until then it will get worse. The crowd won't have too much patience this season, Pardew has had his time, he's wasted it moaning at everyone else rather than looking at himself.

 

Confidence didnt come first, I guess that's what you are saying, if so I agree.

 

 

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Confidence is a big issue but where does the buck stop with that. This is a fresh season, last season supposedly behind us so really players should be full of confidence having avoided relegation last season and looking forward to putting things right this season. The management team must take responsibility for confidence of the players.

 

We are not going to play many better teams than Man City this season, they played well but we allowed them to play well. West Ham had a very good start last week and look an improvement on last season, they will be tough to beat, they will be looking at us and thinking they can win, this should not be happening when we are at home. St James' Park this season is a place that teams will look at and think we can get something up here. Nobody fears coming here after last season. With the players we have at our disposal we should be making it very difficult for most teams to pick up points at St James' Park I very much doubt we will. Again I think our only saving grace will be the shitness of the clubs that got promoted last season unless we make a drastic change in management and that change doesn't involve JFK in the dugout.

 

 

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Confidence is on the floor, not just with the players but the manager and the fans as well. So yes it's a big problem.

 

It's solved in one easy move, sack Pardew since its him who has brought everyone down with his negative talk, shit football and excuses for the last year.

 

Confidence is a problem depending how widely you cast the net. In a whole club sense then yes. As a team; a coherent gameplan comes before gaining the confidence to implement and sustain it.

 

Well low confidence is a knock on effect (from things like poor tsctics, player sales, poor results, poor manageent) it just compounds the misery and pulls us faster on the downwards spiral we are on. Only a sacking will rescue it IMO. Until then it will get worse. The crowd won't have too much patience this season, Pardew has had his time, he's wasted it moaning at everyone else rather than looking at himself.

 

Confidence didnt come first, I guess that's what you are saying, if so I agree.

 

 

 

Aye. Confidence is the place from which you work back to what the root problem is. (Parklife).

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I was basically meaning this season will bigger indication of where we are at as side. Man city away, anything would have been a bonus, we got the expected tanking, but now two home games back to back, get a win against West Ham and kick on from there, i said pre-season if we get 6 points from our first 3 games, that would be a great start and once confidence is built we could really kick on. I haven't changed my opinion after the shambles of Man City because i know they will rip a lot of teams open and we aren't the only ones who will be crucified down there. West Ham/Fulham is where our true fate lies and is a bigger indication of how our season will pan out. I don't see what is entirely wrong with that tbh. Apart from the fact i have faith in the players on the pitch on Saturday to get those 3 points for us. With a fit confident Ben Arfa on our side, anything is possible.

 

Well of course the present day is always the indication of where you are as a side, that goes without saying. The tanking was only expected because we've got such an incompetent in the dugout.  Plenty of teams will be crucified at the Etihad, not many will carry the cross there themselves. I've got faith in our players as well but it means fuck all while they're being strangled by Pardew. I've got faith in my cat to walk to his bowl and eat his breakfast, if I hold onto his tail though, he's going nowhere.

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Confidence, as said is bred by the manager, when he is publicly praising every other team we play and bigging up their strengths he is undermining our own players. This lack of belief is rightly affecting the team and his negativity concerning our status and our inability to not only keep up with the likes of the Manchester clubs but now the likes of Southampton too is bringing our confidence to its knees!

 

It's one of Pardews many flaws and you could say the root of all our problems as it what affects his team sheets, tactics and ultimately performances and results. If I could change one thing abou Pardew it would be this, everything else would fall in line.

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“Really and truly it is about the next 37 games – particularly the two at home. We need points on the board.

“It will be a better measure for us after West Ham and Fulham. Judge us after that.”

 

Okay Alan, show us what you've got.

 

Ben Arfa's training isn't going well.

 

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Confidence, as said is bred by the manager, when he is publicly praising every other team we play and bigging up their strengths he is undermining our own players. This lack of belief is rightly affecting the team and his negativity concerning our status and our inability to not only keep up with the likes of the Manchester clubs but now the likes of Southampton too is bringing our confidence to its knees!

 

It's one of Pardews many flaws and you could say the root of all our problems as it what affects his team sheets, tactics and ultimately performances and results. If I could change one thing abou Pardew it would be this, everything else would fall in line.

 

There probably is something in that, but then again he showed the ability to maintain a positive atmosphere the season before last. I don't think he's incapable of that. At this point I think he needs a couple of wins just to kick start things.

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“Really and truly it is about the next 37 games – particularly the two at home. We need points on the board.

“It will be a better measure for us after West Ham and Fulham. Judge us after that.”

 

Okay Alan, show us what you've got.

 

Ben Arfa's training isn't going well.

 

<a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=4125"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ball_vs_kid.gif"></a>

 

Hit in the face and controls it with his other foot, sign him up  :lol:

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“Really and truly it is about the next 37 games – particularly the two at home. We need points on the board.

“It will be a better measure for us after West Ham and Fulham. Judge us after that.”

 

Okay Alan, show us what you've got.

 

Ben Arfa's training isn't going well.

 

<a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=4125"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ball_vs_kid.gif"></a>

 

Hit in the face and controls it with his other foot, sign him up  :lol:

 

Oh yeah :lol:

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Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

:lol: f***ing hell man.

 

Saying judge us against West Ham Saturday evening, not Man City away? What's the f***ing hell man for? I would say that's a sensible thing to do? No? just me?

 

The wording is catastrophic man. West Ham weren't near us a few years ago.

 

People on here have tipped us to finish below West Ham? I'm saying we will finish above them? We can't compete with City, but we can compete with West Ham, it's that simple. Why judge our season on one game away to City, tearing us apart straight away, shocking man, f***ing one game in which we spent 45 minutes with 10 men against arguably the best side in the league.

 

Christ on a bike Brett, it wasn't the defeat that is worrying/pissing people off, it was the manner of the defeat man, is that really hard to grasp?  We looked dead and buried as soon as the whistle blew, that is the reason for the concern.  I don't want to look through the fixture list going "ahh these are top 4, we are going to get stuffed here, nevermind, we play a team in 17th next week, hurray"  If you can't understand that, then you are suffering at least 4 of the 7 major retardations.

 

Basically it was 45 minutes, Taylor killed the second half for us and made it a far greater challenge for his team mates. I don’t want to get into a great discussion. I’ve made my point, if we get beat off the top 4 away and get mauled off each one, I really couldn’t care less as long as we win the majority of our home games starting off on Saturday against West Ham and I’m right behind them to do so. If you lot want to concentrate on last season or still look back to Monday nights match, that’s entirely your decision, I on the other can’t wait for Saturday and have already forgotten and moved on from Monday and glad that game is over and done with.

 

 

Christ on a bike, just because Taylor got sent off it doesn't mean we automatically would've gotten back into the game in the second half. We can't say we were only rubbish for 45 minutes because we only had 11 for 45 minutes :lol:

 

You've made your point, you don't use any logic or evidence to support your thinking on the way something's going to go.

 

My evidence is Ben Arfa glided past players like they weren't even there and they were top players. He's playing against average defenders on Saturday, will be fired up for first home game of the season, Pardew will field a more offensive line up and i fancy us to take the game to West Ham and come out with 3 points. If we don't take 3 points, i'll accept all the criticism you fire at Pardew and the players. However 3 points is what I think we will bag.

 

West Ham are eminently beatable, but for Pardew to pick an offensive team to beat them will require picking players that can hurt them. Not just Ben Arfa IMO, but Marveaux as well. Then let them fuckers worry about our threat rather than us shitting our pants every time they get a set piece. Is Pardew capable of picking 11 players and sending them out there with the intent to bury West Ham? For me, even the result isn't the most important thing, if we can show potential to play good football that would be a massive improvement.

 

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When is the pre-match press conference - today or tomorrow? Be interested to hear the latest excuses.

 

Today for Saturday games, usually.

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Think we'll lose badly and he'll get kicked out.

 

Realistically Kinnear is the man with his finger on the trigger now, no?

 

I wouldn't think so. It's such an important position at the club i would think (hope) that Ashley is the only one who can make those kind of decisions. Certainly not some old tosspot who couldn't a job anywhere else.

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