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Confidence, as said is bred by the manager, when he is publicly praising every other team we play and bigging up their strengths he is undermining our own players. This lack of belief is rightly affecting the team and his negativity concerning our status and our inability to not only keep up with the likes of the Manchester clubs but now the likes of Southampton too is bringing our confidence to its knees!

 

It's one of Pardews many flaws and you could say the root of all our problems as it what affects his team sheets, tactics and ultimately performances and results. If I could change one thing abou Pardew it would be this, everything else would fall in line.

 

There probably is something in that, but then again he showed the ability to maintain a positive atmosphere the season before last. I don't think he's incapable of that. At this point I think he needs a couple of wins just to kick start things.

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“Really and truly it is about the next 37 games – particularly the two at home. We need points on the board.

“It will be a better measure for us after West Ham and Fulham. Judge us after that.”

 

Okay Alan, show us what you've got.

 

Ben Arfa's training isn't going well.

 

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Hit in the face and controls it with his other foot, sign him up  :lol:

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“Really and truly it is about the next 37 games – particularly the two at home. We need points on the board.

“It will be a better measure for us after West Ham and Fulham. Judge us after that.”

 

Okay Alan, show us what you've got.

 

Ben Arfa's training isn't going well.

 

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Hit in the face and controls it with his other foot, sign him up  :lol:

 

Oh yeah :lol:

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Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

:lol: f***ing hell man.

 

Saying judge us against West Ham Saturday evening, not Man City away? What's the f***ing hell man for? I would say that's a sensible thing to do? No? just me?

 

The wording is catastrophic man. West Ham weren't near us a few years ago.

 

People on here have tipped us to finish below West Ham? I'm saying we will finish above them? We can't compete with City, but we can compete with West Ham, it's that simple. Why judge our season on one game away to City, tearing us apart straight away, shocking man, f***ing one game in which we spent 45 minutes with 10 men against arguably the best side in the league.

 

Christ on a bike Brett, it wasn't the defeat that is worrying/pissing people off, it was the manner of the defeat man, is that really hard to grasp?  We looked dead and buried as soon as the whistle blew, that is the reason for the concern.  I don't want to look through the fixture list going "ahh these are top 4, we are going to get stuffed here, nevermind, we play a team in 17th next week, hurray"  If you can't understand that, then you are suffering at least 4 of the 7 major retardations.

 

Basically it was 45 minutes, Taylor killed the second half for us and made it a far greater challenge for his team mates. I don’t want to get into a great discussion. I’ve made my point, if we get beat off the top 4 away and get mauled off each one, I really couldn’t care less as long as we win the majority of our home games starting off on Saturday against West Ham and I’m right behind them to do so. If you lot want to concentrate on last season or still look back to Monday nights match, that’s entirely your decision, I on the other can’t wait for Saturday and have already forgotten and moved on from Monday and glad that game is over and done with.

 

 

Christ on a bike, just because Taylor got sent off it doesn't mean we automatically would've gotten back into the game in the second half. We can't say we were only rubbish for 45 minutes because we only had 11 for 45 minutes :lol:

 

You've made your point, you don't use any logic or evidence to support your thinking on the way something's going to go.

 

My evidence is Ben Arfa glided past players like they weren't even there and they were top players. He's playing against average defenders on Saturday, will be fired up for first home game of the season, Pardew will field a more offensive line up and i fancy us to take the game to West Ham and come out with 3 points. If we don't take 3 points, i'll accept all the criticism you fire at Pardew and the players. However 3 points is what I think we will bag.

 

West Ham are eminently beatable, but for Pardew to pick an offensive team to beat them will require picking players that can hurt them. Not just Ben Arfa IMO, but Marveaux as well. Then let them fuckers worry about our threat rather than us shitting our pants every time they get a set piece. Is Pardew capable of picking 11 players and sending them out there with the intent to bury West Ham? For me, even the result isn't the most important thing, if we can show potential to play good football that would be a massive improvement.

 

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When is the pre-match press conference - today or tomorrow? Be interested to hear the latest excuses.

 

Today for Saturday games, usually.

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Think we'll lose badly and he'll get kicked out.

 

Realistically Kinnear is the man with his finger on the trigger now, no?

 

I wouldn't think so. It's such an important position at the club i would think (hope) that Ashley is the only one who can make those kind of decisions. Certainly not some old tosspot who couldn't a job anywhere else.

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Wouldnt surprise me if JFK and Pardew have got on put their 'professional' differences aside and JFK starts defending Pardew to Ashley.

 

Would be a typical twist this drama would take.

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Think this needs a tag to Ian.

Seems fairly standard manager transfer quote soundbites to me like, as much as I don't want to get involved in this high-level discussion. Unless you think he should refuse to give interviews completely, he will always have to say something about transfers and the squad he has available.

 

:mike:

 

How the fuck the pair of you can be arsed is beyond me.

 

Just find it hard to take people being so willfully thick, that's all. It's not even about defending Pardew, it's just common sense.

 

Nothing he says matters now, because even if he comes out with something completely standard and/or sensible everyone is waiting to dissect it line-by-line with a load of weapons-grade bollocks.

 

Given that, yes it's pointless joining in with this thread. Guilty as charged on that one.

 

It's spelt "wilfully" Ian.

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Have I got this right?

Llambias gave Pardew an 8 year contract ?

Ashley wanted to sack Pardew last season ?

 

If so it would seem that there are no clauses in Pardews contract and we'd have to pay the full amount if we sack him, would explain why Llambias is gone and JFK is here.

So we are stuck with him till he resigns or Ashley finally decides to pay compo.

wont be for a while yet

 

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Think this needs a tag to Ian.

Seems fairly standard manager transfer quote soundbites to me like, as much as I don't want to get involved in this high-level discussion. Unless you think he should refuse to give interviews completely, he will always have to say something about transfers and the squad he has available.

 

:mike:

 

How the fuck the pair of you can be arsed is beyond me.

 

Just find it hard to take people being so willfully thick, that's all. It's not even about defending Pardew, it's just common sense.

 

Nothing he says matters now, because even if he comes out with something completely standard and/or sensible everyone is waiting to dissect it line-by-line with a load of weapons-grade bollocks.

 

Given that, yes it's pointless joining in with this thread. Guilty as charged on that one.

 

It's spelt "wilfully" Ian.

 

American spellchecking, apologies.

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Our setup can wring virtually any and all genuine quality out of a player without fail (exceptions being HBA - while fatter - is still a maverick force and Colo is Colo).

 

Santon - from favorite of Mourinho and future star to possibly not as good as Paul Dummett

Yanga-Mbiwa - from French international, young classy CB to CB/FB(?) squad player who looks lost

Sissoko - from Yaya-lite, a central midfielder with power and quality to a player tried at #10, on the wing, and in the centre without much direction

Cisse - from natural goalscorer and scorer of amazing goals to being played on the right and as a lone striker and looking totally clueless

Tiote - from powerful destroyer with flashes of class to out-of-control liability

Cabaye - from classy French international with style to tetchy, injury-prone question mark who many can't wait to see the back of

Debuchy - from coveted target, true RB, first-choice French international to a true question mark at RB who gives away needless fouls and looks lost

 

While I've no doubt Pardew is indeed the symptom and not the disease, there's no doubt he is ballsing this thing up royally and giving it the opposite of the Midas touch. His influence has turned gold into shit - and will continue to do so. It's not only him, of course, but he clearly cannot deal with creative talent.

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