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ponsaelius

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But the B team matches aren't proper matches. The strength of the line-ups changes wildly from a week-to-week basis meaning there is no team continuity, they play in front of empty stadiums, and then because they aren't real teams with real ambitions they can't get promoted or have nothing tangible/long term to play for. It's a simulator that fails to replicate the real thing (hence why the big Spanish clubs have their players out on loan anyway), while in the process destroying the credibility and competition of the lower divisions. Imagine one team playing against 'reserve' B team one week, then the next week a different team plays the same B team that's full of U18s because the main team has called them up for a League Cup or Europa League game. This happens all the time in the European examples and it renders the idea of a fair competition a farce.

 

Basically you're destroying the lower league system, giving more opportunity for top clubs to hoard players and for no real guarentee that it will have any effect on improving the national side. If you want to know why Germany and Spain are dominating international football and producing massive amounts of high quality players you need to look at the amount of proper qualified coaches they have and what they're doing with them at an early age. The idea that you can just drop a load of B teams into our deep football pyramid and solve the issues is absolutely typical of the sort of lazy, lacklustre quick fixes that the FA love.

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But the B team matches aren't proper matches. The strength of the line-ups changes wildly from a week-to-week basis meaning there is no team continuity, they play in front of empty stadiums, and then because they aren't real teams with real ambitions they can't get promoted or have nothing tangible/long term to play for. It's a simulator that fails to replicate the real thing (hence why the big Spanish clubs have their players out on loan anyway), while in the process destroying the credibility and competition of the lower divisions. Imagine one team playing against 'reserve' B team one week, then the next week a different team plays the same B team that's full of U18s because the main team has called them up for a League Cup or Europa League game. This happens all the time in the European examples and it renders the idea of a fair competition a farce.

 

Basically you're destroying the lower league system, giving more opportunity for top clubs to hoard players and for no real guarentee that it will have any effect on improving the national side. If you want to know why Germany and Spain are dominating international football and producing massive amounts of high quality players you need to look at the amount of proper qualified coaches they have and what they're doing with them at an early age. The idea that you can just drop a load of B teams into our deep football pyramid and solve the issues is absolutely typical of the sort of lazy, lacklustre quick fixes that the FA love.

 

:thup:

 

When I'm betting on the lower leagues around Europe, you can always be very confident that the B teams everywhere will chuck away every game for the last two months of the season. There's no incentive at that point - they're not going to be called up for the crunch games at the end of the season and they're not playing for any competitive reward.

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But the B team matches aren't proper matches. The strength of the line-ups changes wildly from a week-to-week basis meaning there is no team continuity, they play in front of empty stadiums, and then because they aren't real teams with real ambitions they can't get promoted or have nothing tangible/long term to play for. It's a simulator that fails to replicate the real thing (hence why the big Spanish clubs have their players out on loan anyway), while in the process destroying the credibility and competition of the lower divisions. Imagine one team playing against 'reserve' B team one week, then the next week a different team plays the same B team that's full of U18s because the main team has called them up for a League Cup or Europa League game. This happens all the time in the European examples and it renders the idea of a fair competition a farce.

 

Basically you're destroying the lower league system, giving more opportunity for top clubs to hoard players and for no real guarentee that it will have any effect on improving the national side. If you want to know why Germany and Spain are dominating international football and producing massive amounts of high quality players you need to look at the amount of proper qualified coaches they have and what they're doing with them at an early age. The idea that you can just drop a load of B teams into our deep football pyramid and solve the issues is absolutely typical of the sort of lazy, lacklustre quick fixes that the FA love.

 

Nod.

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But the B team matches aren't proper matches. The strength of the line-ups changes wildly from a week-to-week basis meaning there is no team continuity, they play in front of empty stadiums, and then because they aren't real teams with real ambitions they can't get promoted or have nothing tangible/long term to play for. It's a simulator that fails to replicate the real thing (hence why the big Spanish clubs have their players out on loan anyway), while in the process destroying the credibility and competition of the lower divisions. Imagine one team playing against 'reserve' B team one week, then the next week a different team plays the same B team that's full of U18s because the main team has called them up for a League Cup or Europa League game. This happens all the time in the European examples and it renders the idea of a fair competition a farce.

 

Basically you're destroying the lower league system, giving more opportunity for top clubs to hoard players and for no real guarentee that it will have any effect on improving the national side. If you want to know why Germany and Spain are dominating international football and producing massive amounts of high quality players you need to look at the amount of proper qualified coaches they have and what they're doing with them at an early age. The idea that you can just drop a load of B teams into our deep football pyramid and solve the issues is absolutely typical of the sort of lazy, lacklustre quick fixes that the FA love.

 

Spot on this.

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joeyt

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I can understand the argument that it's a strategy that could help improve the national team, but how would it benefit the domestic league? It would serve only to benefit the top sides.

 

Let's be honest though, the majority of the country only really care about the top league now anyway. It's sad but the reality is not all different to the other top European leagues tbh.

 

What fresh nonsense this is :lol:

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Darth Crooks

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Stop taking away playing fields to build property on and championing elitist facilities like st George's park and try and improve from the ground up. The only time the FA dealt with money in my fathers experience of youth coaching is when they wanted some. Money at the top needs to filter to the grassroots - the opposite happening when the prem clubs will hoard the lot after this tv deal kicks in.

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