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“An official insulting any player, no matter his intentions, is clearly not acceptable behaviour. For this reason we do not accept the verdict of the PGMOL in relation to this case and do not consider the matter to be over.”

 

“Under the circumstances we do not feel it appropriate for Mr Clattenburg to officiate any of our matches until this matter is resolved.”

 

grow the fuck up you childish pricks

 

Yet referees have to put up with players shouting FUCK OFF in their faces, and would most likely be reprimanded for yellow carding these offences as it devalues the Premier League product.  Daft thing to say but incredible that any player can be so precious when they see what refs have to deal with.  He'd probably just told him to FUCK OFF as well. :lol:

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“An official insulting any player, no matter his intentions, is clearly not acceptable behaviour. For this reason we do not accept the verdict of the PGMOL in relation to this case and do not consider the matter to be over.”

 

“Under the circumstances we do not feel it appropriate for Mr Clattenburg to officiate any of our matches until this matter is resolved.”

 

grow the f*** up you childish pricks

 

Yet referees have to put up with players shouting f*** OFF in their faces, and would most likely be reprimanded for yellow carding these offences as it devalues the Premier League product.  Daft thing to say but incredible that any player can be so precious when they see what refs have to deal with.  He'd probably just told him to f*** OFF as well. :lol:

 

This, so much this. After the usual tirade of abuse from Rooney this weekend as well. Pathetic.

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Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC 16m

 

Understand Clattenburg said to Lallana "you’re very different now you have played for England, you never used to be like this."

 

Is that ll he said?

 

Jesus sky made its sound like he held two fingers up and said "smell ya fatha"

 

Absoluetly nothing.

 

 

aye but they were in bed at the time.
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#NUFC coach Andy Woodman fined and #saintsfc's Dani Osvaldo fined and suspended by FA following touchline incident

 

They've given Osvaldo a 3 match ban - seems harsh!

 

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-01-03/southampton-striker-dani-osvaldo-handed-three-game-ban-and-fined-40-000-for-newcastle-brawl/?

We didn't really see what he did though did we? He got done for violent conduct so he must have done something that was seen by the officials.

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#NUFC coach Andy Woodman fined and #saintsfc's Dani Osvaldo fined and suspended by FA following touchline incident

 

They've given Osvaldo a 3 match ban - seems harsh!

 

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-01-03/southampton-striker-dani-osvaldo-handed-three-game-ban-and-fined-40-000-for-newcastle-brawl/?

We didn't really see what he did though did we? He got done for violent conduct so he must have done something that was seen by the officials.

 

He kicked Woodman in the cock.

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So are the FA just brushing Anelka's blatant anti-Semitism under the carpet? Unreal. Over at the Guardian, it seemed many people were defending him.

never happened as far as the FA is concerned, why I'm surprised I don't have a clue.

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Billy Davies will be exactly where he wants to be on Sunday – facing a Premier League club with the opportunity to inflict an FA Cup upset in front of the television cameras.

 

Yet the Nottingham Forest manager’s determination to pile further pressure on his West Ham counterpart Sam Allardyce is, in many ways, a mere sideshow to the story unfolding away from the pitch at the City Ground this season, which has seen Davies taking the term “siege mentality” to new levels – antagonising rivals, dividing supporters and creating a confrontational environment that has resulted in a Football League investigation into the club’s practices.

This season should all be about Davies’s bid to lead the double European Cup winners back to the top flight for the first time since 1999 and completing his “unfinished business” at the club.

 

But since his return in February there have been multiple sackings of club staff, journalists banned, a near media blackout and a suspended solicitor, and cousin of Davies, acting as his closest adviser.

 

One Championship chief executive has referred to the club as “the Midlands version of North Korea” and there have been enough complaints to the Football League for its chief executive to seek a meeting with the club’s Kuwaiti owner, Fawaz Al-Hasawi.

 

Forest’s hostile attitude is difficult to understand, not least because senior figures at the club have all but refused to speak to the media all season. Davies speaks only to the club’s official website and a regional TV station, and journalists present at post-match press conferences are filmed by a club employee.

Even away from the City Ground, Davies attempts to retain control. In December he confronted Dan Westwell, a freelance photographer working for the local newspaper, the Nottingham Post, who was taking pictures of him at Millwall.

 

“I just sat there in stunned silence not knowing if he was going to hit me or threaten me or what he was going to do,” Westwell said. “I was just thankful that the Millwall stewards were on the scene straight away.”

 

Forest claimed Davies had challenged Westwell because he had behaved “unprofessionally” – although it was not clear how – but the incident typified the club’s aggressive approach.

 

When asked to explain the club’s attitude in August, Davies said: “We’ve seen people making up stories that are very much not true. But the manager of the football club and general manager going on Twitter shows that we are trying to be very open to the fans. We’ve tried to make the access to supporters as good as we possibly can.”

 

But Forest’s behaviour has undoubtedly divided those supporters. Some believe Davies is getting his own back for what he perceived as poor treatment from the press during and after his first spell in charge at the club, when he was dismissed by the late Nigel Doughty in June 2011, and the Scot has provided excitement at a time when the glory years under Brian Clough seem aeons ago. A growing number, however, appear to have had enough of the soap opera that surrounds him.

 

Forest’s conduct over the past six months has concerned and exasperated the League to such an extent that Shaun Harvey, the chief executive, met with Al-Hasawi in London last month.

 

Many issues were raised, including Forest’s relationship with other clubs, their treatment of the media and even concerns over their handling of the Elite Player Performance Plan. But the main issue surrounded the influence of solicitor Jim Price, Davies’s cousin and agent.

Price’s presence at the City Ground has been a constant source of speculation and he is involved in an ongoing investigation by the Law Society of Scotland into alleged financial irregularities at law firm Ross Harper, which was shut down in April 2012 owing £2.6 million to clients and creditors.

According to the LSS, the practising certificates of Price and his fellow partners were suspended after an inspection of the firm’s books led to them becoming “concerned about the accounting records”.

 

Price is on Twitter as @Jimbo519242 and in October claimed “popularity is not nffc game plan – it is making the club better and more transparent”.

However, the League is demanding clarification on his exact role at the City Ground and how the club operates on a daily basis.

His title of ‘adviser to the board’ has been taken off the Forest website, yet The Sunday Telegraph has seen a series of emails which clearly show that he was involved in negotiations for a player they attempted to sign in the summer.

 

The Scot has been told by the League he must subscribe to the Owners’ and Directors’ Test in order to be judged on whether he is fit and proper to perform the role he does.

 

Harvey, who was appointed in July, has demanded a swift and amicable resolution but if the League is not satisfied that Forest are fully complying with regulations the club could face a fine.

 

When contacted last night, Forest insisted that Price’s role was to act as an adviser to Al-Hasawi across his businesses and that he had never been an official employee of the club.

 

For all the strife, however, Davies has undoubtedly improved Forest’s prospects on the field. They are fifth in the Championship and he is keen to strengthen his squad this month, with Blackburn Rovers’ Jordan Rhodes a target.

 

The 49-year-old manager is renowned for his attention to detail. Players who have played under him tell stories of long training sessions dedicated to eradicating mistakes. He spends hours in his editing suite building up knowledge on opponents and potential transfer targets.

Steve Howard, the forward who was hugely influential for Davies when Derby won the Championship play-off final in 2007, insists he is the best manager he has ever played for.

 

“I would have run through brick walls for him,” he said. “You just felt part of something big. He made us feel unbeatable. We went into every game fully prepared, every possible thing was covered. It was frightening. I’d never had that before and I’ve never had it since. He’s a great man-manager.”

Forest will face West Ham with a real chance of springing a surprise, although there was no chance of asking Davies for his insights as he declined to hold a press conference before the game, outside of his usual channels.

 

Whatever happens today, however, the drama is expected to continue. Perhaps the most telling insight into Davies’s character came when he conducted a Q and A on Price’s Twitter account earlier this season. “It’s about pay back,” he wrote. “Vengeance is best served cold. Trust me, the innocent will not be harmed.”

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LIKE you, I suspect, I’ve been feeling terrible about poor Adam Lallana all week, and wondering what I could do to ease his pain, assuage his sense of hurt. It can be awfully wounding to find yourself the recipient of outrageous personal abuse.

 

Sometimes it can be bad enough to make you stay in your room and not come down for supper, and this is what seems to have happened to Adam. In the end, I sent him some Mr Men© toys, with a short note advising him to try to be like Mr Strong, and not like Mr Grumpy, and still less like Mr Spoilt Half-Witted Brat. I hope the message gets through to the little lad.

 

During Southampton’s defeat by Everton last week, Adam interposed in his scampering wingery type thing a constant fugue of complaint to the referee, Mark Clattenburg. Adam wanted a penalty and importuned Clattenburg for one at every turn.

 

Clattenburg eventually had enough, which was when he unleashed his stream of obscene vitriol at the Southampton forward. This is exactly what he said: “You’re very different now you’ve played for England. You never used to be like this.” Well, there we are. I have to say, as a personal insult it’s a few yards short of the full John Terry, isn’t it? It seems to me an observation based upon fact, but then I suppose it would not be a good thing if referees habitually made observations based upon fact to most Premier League players.

 

“You big, overpaid, cheating Jessie” would fit at least 60 top-flight players and thus give them cause for complaint. Still, Clattenburg’s observation seems to me moderately expressed, devoid of unpleasant language and not necessarily unkindly meant, either. Given the constant stream of demands from the player, it would have been reasonable for Clattenburg to have retorted: “You are not having a penalty, not now, not ever. Even if Phil Jagielka shoots you in the back of the head bang on the 12-yard spot, you’re not getting a penalty, you gobby, jumped up little sod.” Sadly, he didn’t say that.

 

So Lallana, confirming Clattenburg’s observation and then some, had a mighty strop about this “personal insult”. There is a very funny Twitter feed #Things that upset Adam Lallana. My personal favourites are “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter not, actually, being butter.” And “Goes to buy washing liquid, comes back with fabric softener.”If Lallana’s reaction was absurd, egregious and laughable, it is nothing to the pompous, self-regarding rubbish which has emanated from his club. Instead of telling the player to keep his trap shut during a game and stop moaning afterwards, Southampton have instead insisted that they are “standing by” Lallana.

 

An inquiry into Clattenburg’s remarks cleared the official of all wrong-doing, but this was not good enough for the inaptly named Saints. The club released the following astonishing statement: “Under the circumstances, we do not feel it appropriate for Mr Clattenburg to officiate in any of our matches until this matter has been properly resolved.” Good Lord. The Premier League should have responded swiftly by sending Clattenburg to ref their FA Cup tie against Burnley. Or better still, by deducting nine points from the club, with a promise for a further three to be deducted each time they issue any similar fatuous, self- serving and outrageous statement.

 

I suppose it has been a difficult time for Southampton, of late. They were the neutral’s team de jour in autumn, even occupying a Champions League berth, briefly, and their attractive, accomplished football caught the eye of England manager Roy Hodgson. With Rickie Lambert, Lallana and Jay Rodriguez were summoned into the England squad, Lallana taking over from Andros Townsend in that familiar Winger of the Week position. He did not acquit himself too badly, and his rise over the past couple of years has been promising and commendable. But perhaps that early-season chutzpah, and overachievement, have got to the player and the club.

 

Southampton have now won just once in the league in nine matches and for the first time last week suffered back-to-back home defeats. They have slipped down the table and may find themselves drawn into a relegation battle — something which would have been unthinkable in October. Maybe that’s the thing — Southampton and Lallana have been subjected to delusions of grandeur; they think that a week or two in the top five and a call-up into a ropey England squad enables them to hoist one finger to officialdom.

 

They can still put matters right, mind. They could release a statement apologising for dissing Mr Clattenburg and saying that the stuff they said about him not officiating at future games was made when they were out of their heads on crack cocaine. And that henceforth, Adam Lallana will scamper up and down the wings and keep his trap shut to the referee. Something along those lines would help, I feel.

 

Sunday Times. Thought it was pretty good

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I went to the Emirates the other night for the Arsenal Spurs match thanks to my brother-in-law who is a Gooner and I have to say its an amazing stadium and kind of puts ours to shame in many respects. The leg room is huge and apparently ALL the seats are padded. No chance of pink seats at the Emirates then...

 

I was very impressed with the Arsenal fans who created a great atmosphere as well. Spurs fans on the other hand were shocking, absolutely shocking, despite their numbers. We were right above them, and the only time they made any noise was when Wallcott made his 2-0 gesture, mind they were singing "let him die". If you can't take it, don't dish it!

 

Arsenal are a very good side live, Wilshere and Rosicky were immense and you can see why they are at the top of the table. Spurs on the other-hand were poor, they look like a bunch of individuals with no game-plan, no shape, no nothing. Adebayor was piss poor all night. Dawson was good though, very good.

 

I met some canny Gooners afterwards in one of their pubs, although I nearly decked some twat who said Ashely is basically our saviour and that we should be grateful that we are back in the PL after going down a few seasons ago. The same twat said we should all be happy to finish 10th too because that's where we belong. My brother-in-law had to drag me away. Such a cretinous know-nowt he was. Because he once dated a Geordie lass or so he claimed, he thought he was the oracle on all things Newcastle. To be fair, almost everyone around him said NUFC were a big club and deserve better than Ashley and co.

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Massive blow for Arsenal, they don't really have anyone that does what he does.... wouldn't be surprised if they spend money now.

 

Also awful for the player, not only misses the run in where Arsenal are well placed to win something but also the WC such a shame.

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