Guest neesy111 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Why? What's better about the Bundesliga than can feasibly be replicated? We've got a more lucrative league of far better footballing quality. This is certainly debatable from the absolute dross the premier league has been this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 How much is ticketing and STs worth as a % of a club's turnover nowadays? Probably not that much given the monster TV deals and sponsorships going around. I know every penny counts, but lower ticket prices and thus more packed stadiums would probably be a positive for the clubs too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 It certainly tends to when there's a far better standard of players on the pitch. How are fans treated like criminals? As if standing is a good thing. What about beer? And how don't they allow 'Ashley style' ownership? What sanctions are in place to prevent lack of emotional/financial investment? Sounds like you're just telling fibs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 How much is ticketing and STs worth as a % of a club's turnover nowadays? Probably not that much given the monster TV deals and sponsorships going around. I know every penny counts, but lower ticket prices and thus more packed stadiums would probably be a positive for the clubs too. It's getting lower and lower. At last count it was about a third for us IIRC. EDIT: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/may/01/premier-league-accounts-club-by-club-david-conn This is before the new TV deal took hold too IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I went to most games for over 19 years. I was treat like a criminal once, and that was in Marseille. And that rule, by the sounds of it, would be about as difficult to get round for Mike Ashley as a fence made of sticks and sellotape. Beer in the stands, for crying out loud. As if that lends itself to a significantly better matchday experience - especially coming from someone talking about the liability of alcohol to the taxpayer a few weeks backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Do German grounds have much bother as a result of allowing beer in the stands? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Do German grounds have much bother as a result of allowing beer in the stands? Dont' think so. Only seems to kick off in very localised derby/rival games. Germans can be trusted unlike the English though...when it comes to drink EDIT: Although...http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/rise-in-bundesliga-attendances-matched-by-a-sharp-increase-in-violence.25598234 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Do German grounds have much bother as a result of allowing beer in the stands? Nah. Only seems to kick off in very localised derby/rival games. Germans can be trusted unlike the English though...when it comes to drink Yep exactly, although people here do get more tanked up in the lead up to the game and at half time as a result of having to go without for a bit, myself included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Concussion Ultras Assemble http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30091180 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Concussion Ultras Assemble http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30091180 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Why? What's better about the Bundesliga than can feasibly be replicated? We've got a more lucrative league of far better footballing quality. This is certainly debatable from the absolute dross the premier league has been this season. The general footballing standard is better in the Bundesliga, even if the Premier League is traditionally a more attractive proposition and able to attract better players. The Bundesliga offers a generally better standard of football with considerably less resources, I'd say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Do German grounds have much bother as a result of allowing beer in the stands? Nah. Only seems to kick off in very localised derby/rival games. Germans can be trusted unlike the English though...when it comes to drink Yep exactly, although people here do get more tanked up in the lead up to the game and at half time as a result of having to go without for a bit, myself included. I hear the Germans got a bit "tanked up" a while back, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Not going to panzer to such feeble jokes tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Why? What's better about the Bundesliga than can feasibly be replicated? We've got a more lucrative league of far better footballing quality. This is certainly debatable from the absolute dross the premier league has been this season. The general footballing standard is better in the Bundesliga, even if the Premier League is traditionally a more attractive proposition and able to attract better players. The Bundesliga offers a generally better standard of football with considerably less resources, I'd say. Absolutely, a better product all round really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ofcome opening an investigation into how the PL sells it TV rights. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30095012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ofcome opening an investigation into how the PL sells it TV rights. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30095012 Virgin Media could actually make a bid for it themselves instead of whinging on about the process and how winners don't have to offer it to their platform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ofcome opening an investigation into how the PL sells it TV rights. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30095012 Virgin Media could actually make a bid for it themselves instead of whinging on about the process and how winners don't have to offer it to their platform. Virgin are not a TV broadcaster though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Go on Branson son! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Why? What's better about the Bundesliga than can feasibly be replicated? We've got a more lucrative league of far better footballing quality. This is certainly debatable from the absolute dross the premier league has been this season. The general footballing standard is better in the Bundesliga, even if the Premier League is traditionally a more attractive proposition and able to attract better players. The Bundesliga offers a generally better standard of football with considerably less resources, I'd say. Absolutely, a better product all round really. Why not support a team from there, then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Why? What's better about the Bundesliga than can feasibly be replicated? We've got a more lucrative league of far better footballing quality. This is certainly debatable from the absolute dross the premier league has been this season. The general footballing standard is better in the Bundesliga, even if the Premier League is traditionally a more attractive proposition and able to attract better players. The Bundesliga offers a generally better standard of football with considerably less resources, I'd say. Absolutely, a better product all round really. Why not support a team from there, then? What a weird thing to say/ask. I support Newcastle since I lived there for two years. Maybe if I lived in Germany and had some match going mates I could grow a fondness for a German team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Fair enough. Just winds me up the usual suspects downplaying the PL all the time. There's a reason none you watch the Bundesliga as often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Euro 2016 mascot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01714/pedobear_1714073c.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Looks fucking shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 It's a kid kicking a football, what's so terrible about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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