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As others have said, I really don't think Sunderland have the players for relegation. Doesn't help they have practically signed a whole new squad in the last 12/18 months.

They do that every summer. Setting alight the transfer window and all that.

 

And even if they stay up they'll need a whole new team, AGAIN. There are perhaps 3 reasonably good players in their team and they don't even f***ing own two of them, major investment is needed once more as they can't generate that kind of money by selling the dross they have atm. I'm curious as to when Ellis Short will reach the point where he says 'you know what, this clearly isn't working, no you can't have loads of money to waste on s*** players again.'

 

 

 

Seems worse this season. Last season they had Sessegnon, Mignolet and Rose (loan).

 

This season they have Borini (loan) who despite probably being their best player isn't exactly a goal machine. They are in real trouble. They don't have a single player I would have near our first 11 this time around.

 

That sounds like a challenge. Somebody get over to RTG and ask for the latest joint team line-up.

 

Cajun, I think you're underrating Ki, although of course he's on loan as well. Other than that, maybe Johnson and that's it - and that would be a matter for debate too. They really aren't very good.

 

As for your relegation season, well your squad was pretty strong really and should never have gone down in the first place. Pretty much everything that could have gone wrong, did. Then you trimmed a couple of guys but kept the bulk together, and were far, far too strong for what was a really weak Championship. Ashley took the hit in the pocket and reaped the rewards - for the first and last time :lol:.

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I'd have  Bardsley or that Alonso lad at LB,  Ki starting in midfield(or as a backup for Anita). Mannone and Borini as backups. That's about it.

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And, of course, Alonso is on loan too :lol:.

 

I really, really hate that sides in the Premier League can loan so many players - and that they can loan any from other Prem teams. Along with the fact that CL teams get a second chance in the Europa, I think they are the most glaring "easily-fixed" problems with the game.

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I'd have  Bardsley or that Alonso lad at LB,  Ki starting in midfield(or as a backup for Anita). Mannone and Borini as backups. That's about it.

 

*Bardo

*Manno

*Borinio

*Kio

 

Wembo with Hendo.

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Yeah we've certainly relied on a loan player quite a lot this season in Remy, but fucking hell they've got 5 loan players in their first team squad and at times at least 4 of them on the pitch at the same time, Sunderloan AFC.

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I think they will now go down, although why the mackems on here want that to happen I do not know. You can get rid of dead wood/the crap without getting relegated you know. Unless you come straight back up you could spend many a fruitless year down there. In Jan they should have bought a goalscorer, or someone capable of scoring, even if it was someone in on loan. There is a distinct lack of goals in them where as the others seem to have that, i.e. Cardiff and even West Brom. I can't believe we lost twice to these mind, fucking Pardew wants shot with shit!

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I've thought all along that they'd scrape by, but after yesterday i now genuinely think they could be doomed. You'd expect them to get very little, if anything from away games v 5 of the the top 7. That leaves them probably needing about 9/12 points out of 15 at home. They're not adrift of the others but they're worse off up front than the teams around them IMO.

Playing Borini as their main striker is their best option and thankfully Poyet can't see this. Altidore makes Shola look decent and Fletcher's either injured or uninterested. Borini can't play v Liverpool either. I think a few hidings will come their way. Anfield or the Etihad maybe?

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