Benwell Lad Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Be really interesting to gear what Pooyet has to say about this after he insisted on screwing poor old Hartlepool over something similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Being completely objective, losing the points they gained isn't enough. If you've "cheated", you need to be punished. If they lost all the games he played in, would it be ok to let them off without any deduction? Having the results over-turned makes sense, but it needs to be accompanied by a large fine and/or points deduction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Being completely objective, losing the points they gained isn't enough. If you've "cheated", you need to be punished. If they lost all the games he played in, would it be ok to let them off without any deduction? Having the results over-turned makes sense, but it needs to be accompanied by a large fine and/or points deduction. Fine + deduction. It's not like they've cheated is it? Isn't it just a case of wrong paper-doing. Haven't really read about it, but guessing it's a similar case to in Brazil where Portuguesa was relegated because they fielded a player who had supposedly gotten a 2 game suspension over one. I think overturning the results should be enough. If they've lost all 4 then it wouldn't have benefitted them anyways. Fine + results overturning would be more than enough, IMO at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 They'll just informally instruct the referees to ensure that they go down to avoid any potentially embarrassing legal entanglements from other stragglers. Bad decisions coming their way. Very fucking Machiavellian. Haha, you wouldn't be surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Being completely objective, losing the points they gained isn't enough. If you've "cheated", you need to be punished. If they lost all the games he played in, would it be ok to let them off without any deduction? Having the results over-turned makes sense, but it needs to be accompanied by a large fine and/or points deduction. Fine + deduction. It's not like they've cheated is it? Isn't it just a case of wrong paper-doing. Haven't really read about it, but guessing it's a similar case to in Brazil where Portuguesa was relegated because they fielded a player who had supposedly gotten a 2 game suspension over one. I think overturning the results should be enough. If they've lost all 4 then it wouldn't have benefitted them anyways. Fine + results overturning would be more than enough, IMO at least. Goal difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Sunday league players need international clearance now if they've even played for a team registered with the Scottish FA. For a premier league team to not have done this is a bit laughable really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Being completely objective, losing the points they gained isn't enough. If you've "cheated", you need to be punished. If they lost all the games he played in, would it be ok to let them off without any deduction? Having the results over-turned makes sense, but it needs to be accompanied by a large fine and/or points deduction. Fine + deduction. It's not like they've cheated is it? Isn't it just a case of wrong paper-doing. Haven't really read about it, but guessing it's a similar case to in Brazil where Portuguesa was relegated because they fielded a player who had supposedly gotten a 2 game suspension over one. I think overturning the results should be enough. If they've lost all 4 then it wouldn't have benefitted them anyways. Fine + results overturning would be more than enough, IMO at least. Goal difference? Well make all games 3-0 or something. These rules have to exist in the laws of the FA. In Brazil it's 3p + overturning of results. Portuguesa lost a total of 4 points and were relegated instead of Fluminense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 We're a mediocre also ran, let's sign Colback It'll never catch on like "I'm A Celebrity..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Sunday league players need international clearance now if they've even played for a team registered with the Scottish FA. For a premier league team to not have done this is a bit laughable really. There was a story in The Metro the other day about a 14 year old Spanish girl who wasn't allowed to play for her team in Bradford for the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Sunday league players need international clearance now if they've even played for a team registered with the Scottish FA. For a premier league team to not have done this is a bit laughable really. There was a story in The Metro the other day about a 14 year old Spanish girl who wasn't allowed to play for her team in Bradford for the same thing. 11 year old lad last year on the radio had the same as he played a kickabout for some holiday camp side in Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardsleymagic Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 For some reason, when I read the subject title I instantly thought of everyone in Sunderland getting the old alien abduction type probe. I even thought "fucking hell, that's a bit strong for fielding an ineligible player. The FA are really starting to crack (no pun intended) down hard now like". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 6.9 PLAYING AN INELIGIBLE PLAYER Any Club found to have played an ineligible Player in a match shall have any points gained from that match deducted from its record and have levied upon it a fine. The Company may vary this decision in respect of the points gained only in circumstances where the ineligibility is due to the failure to obtain an International Transfer Certificate or where the ineligibility is related to the Player‟s status only. The Board may also order that such match be replayed on such terms as are decided by the Board which may also levy penalty points against the Club in default. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Amazing that even a Sunday league team would be docked points for such an offence, and in a well ran league with such status as the Northern League you'd be absolutely hammered for it - no excuses whatsoever - yet a Premier League team with a multi million pound management and administrative team get away scot-free. Before anyone says they've paid a fine - in Premier League terms that equals scot-free. Anyway at least with Gus having such a moralistic stance on the subject perhaps justice will prevail and they'll be punished appropriately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 6.9 PLAYING AN INELIGIBLE PLAYER Any Club found to have played an ineligible Player in a match shall have any points gained from that match deducted from its record and have levied upon it a fine. The Company may vary this decision in respect of the points gained only in circumstances where the ineligibility is due to the failure to obtain an International Transfer Certificate or where the ineligibility is related to the Player‟s status only. The Board may also order that such match be replayed on such terms as are decided by the Board which may also levy penalty points against the Club in default. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Does not apply I think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Player registrations are just really a money spinner for the FA. The Sunderland offence was trivial really, not realising they have to reregister a player if they come back from loan. It didn't really deserve a deduction, and had it happened the FA might find itself in a position where the monies from player registration were at risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Didn't get an international transfer certificate when he returned from loan. Nothing really and the only real reason we're talking about points deductions is that they're a bunch of hateful, inbred, incestuous freaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 And because it would be hilarious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Hide yo kids, hide yo wife.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Interesting stuff from the secret footballer At the other end of the table, people have kept talking about the games in hand that Sunderland have as their ace in the hole, but they have to win those matches and my view is that they won’t, especially after the 2-1 home defeat against West Ham United on Monday night. Take a look at Sunderland’s remaining fixtures – Tottenham, Everton, Manchester City, Chelsea, Cardiff City, Manchester United, West Bromwich Albion and Swansea City. Now, it may very well go down to those last two matches, both at home and both of which they’ll need to win. But by that point, they could well be on a horrible run of results and the pressure will simply be too much. I tipped Sunderland for the drop very early on. Last season, I was receiving so many pictures from players who I know up and down the country of Sunderland players pissed up at the weekend or during the week – the “Tuesday Club”. And I’m not a total saint because, on a few occasions, I was there with them And I’m not a total saint because, on a few occasions, I was there with them. I feared for them back then but Paolo Di Canio came in and pulled off a miracle. Yet Di Canio was just an instant fix and the players did not want to get used to his methods for a whole season and they duly let the club know. When he was replaced with the easy-going Gus Poyet, I gave them little hope of surviving. Not because Gus is a bad manager but simply because the players are still running the club and that is always a huge danger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolution Number 9 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Pisstake, surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 And another one Just outside the Champions League places, we have Tottenham Hotspur. During one of my earlier pieces, I mentioned that the players have had enough of Tim Sherwood, with his constant shouting at them while completely ignoring the fact that his tactics are flawed because playing a high line in modern-day football is suicide. I’m not sure if you saw the players in the tunnel before the Liverpool game on Sunday but, if you didn’t, it’s worth a look. There is a group of players that know they are going to get beaten because their manager isn’t up to the job and, worse, they are going to take the flak during the fall-out. That’s a horrible situation to be in. I’ve been there and there is precious little you can do other than to hope that the fans genuinely see what is going on – which isn’t something you ever want to hang your hat on – and that the owners know what they’re doing. The players always lose heart. We did. It’s almost a collective decision to stop trying Which, owing to the fact that Sherwood is in there in the first place, isn’t a given. But whenever this happens, the players always lose heart. We did. It’s almost a collective decision to stop trying. I know that sounds bad but that really is where “player power” lies these days. Not many groups of players actually go to the owners and tell them that they’re not happy with the manager; the performances say it for them. The bit in books and the few bits before it.... Pretty much us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 He's the captain of all nobheads, He's taking the mackems down You better watch your rear-view mirrors if you're parked in Chinatown. He's the brainless black-cat capo, but he doesn't mean any harm, when he's arrested for disorder and banned from all the pubs in Yarm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Ji Dong Won Goin Down J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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