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They had a new stadium buzz and played some decent football under Reid. Once they'd been relegated a couple times the latch ons disappeared.

 

 

And they call us the 1992ers. They were getting sub 20,000 crowds at roker park (not filling it) in their promotion season of 95/96. When they eventually had a couple of decent seasons in the top flight they were getting canny crowds in their new stadium. From 97 onwards their crowds doubled compared to what they were getting a couple of years earlier. Yes they moved to a bigger stadium but that means nowt, they weren't even filling joker park. And they have the cheek to mention 1992ers to us. They're the fucken 1997ers. Never see them mention that mind.

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It's amazing just how many mugs do attend our games, theirs and Villa, 3 of the worst ran clubs in the division where mediocrity reigns.

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It's amazing just how many mugs do attend our games, theirs and Villa, 3 of the worst ran clubs in the division where mediocrity reigns.

 

The sky era has definitely seen the whole "massive club" concept get out of control. It is like a sort of mind-game version of transfer deadline day, lots of fart and not a lot of shit, just frivolous rubbish of no consequence.

 

If it isn't fans of clubs which really have more important things to worry about than that, it is pundits doing it, players doing it, managers doing it. It has all the sincerity of the badge kissing player.

 

It all rings a bit hollow when you've just finished 17th. i didn't feel too massive then, or in any way proud, it was absolutely embarrassing.

 

Birmingham City have won more than us in the last (almost) twenty years, FFS. How massive is that?

 

Like you said, HTT, the real issue is the complicit acceptance of mediocrity from clubs who used to aspire to better.

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If the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. were ran like us and finished seasons like us they would struggle to get half the crowds our clubs do.

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If the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. were ran like us and finished seasons like us they would struggle to get half the crowds our clubs do.

 

One of my mates is a season ticket holder at Arsenal. We often have conversations on a Monday about the matches we've been to, and he frequently tells me how awful they were yada yada.

 

I honestly struggle to explain to him the degree to which we are effectively talking about two different sports, the quality being so totally incomparable.

 

His conception of "awful", FFS. It's barely in the same arena. The only way I can imagine Arsenal consistently producing an awful as bad as ours would be if they had to field a few children, or maybe play in crocs.

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If the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. were ran like us and finished seasons like us they would struggle to get half the crowds our clubs do.

 

One of my mates is a season ticket holder at Arsenal. We often have conversations on a Monday about the matches we've been to, and he frequently tells me how awful they were yada yada.

 

I honestly struggle to explain to him the degree to which we are effectively talking about two different sports, the quality being so totally incomparable.

 

His conception of "awful", FFS. It's barely in the same arena. The only way I can imagine Arsenal consistently producing an awful as bad as ours would be if they had to field a few children, or maybe play in crocs.

 

Obviously they all have high expectations and certain demands given they are used to doing well and winning things, but fans of those clubs are deluded and boil my piss when they go all weepy because they've lost a few games in a row or haven't won a trophy in a few years. We lost 8 fucking games in a row and haven't won a trophy in decades and decades.

 

I admire the mackems and Villas attendances and of course our own, well I don't really, I despair because this loyalty is what keeps our clubs pegged down. You have to hand it to say Liverpool or Man Utd fans, they don't put up with any shit from their owners etc.

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If the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal etc. were ran like us and finished seasons like us they would struggle to get half the crowds our clubs do.

 

One of my mates is a season ticket holder at Arsenal. We often have conversations on a Monday about the matches we've been to, and he frequently tells me how awful they were yada yada.

 

I honestly struggle to explain to him the degree to which we are effectively talking about two different sports, the quality being so totally incomparable.

 

His conception of "awful", FFS. It's barely in the same arena. The only way I can imagine Arsenal consistently producing an awful as bad as ours would be if they had to field a few children, or maybe play in crocs.

 

Watching the Arsenal players fly over any time an opposing player comes near them, there's an argument there that they already play in crocks.

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