NG32 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 As a Sunderland fan that statement is a disgrace. What it leaves out is probably most damning. It was said in court by Johnson and a police officer, that the club knew of the grooming and the kissing. That statement from the club does not address this claim. If they knew, which seems probable, then that is nothing short of scandalous and whoever knew should be sacked. Shame on them and their pathetic jargon filled attempt to wriggle out any blame. As for Johnson? He's blew his career and freedom for quick fondle in the back of his car and I don't have one iota of sympathy for him. Whatever sentence the judge passes down will be well deserved. Ok, first of all, who are they going to sack? Margaret Byrne? do you think she was the only one aware? don't you think she will have spoke to Short? he is her immediate boss and she i not the top of the tree, he can't sack himself? he IS the boss, he owns the whole shebang. with all previous lighthearted comments aside before any final judgement was made i find it absolutely f***ing disgusting that they knew what he had done after being privvy to the messages etc As for your comments about a quick fondle in the back of the car, you really need to give your head a shake, he has been found guilty of 3 out of 4 charges with a girl who had just turned 15yrs old ffs. he has gone out with the intention of getting as much sexual pleasure from a 15yr old child as he could Your whole club and the majority of your sick pathetic fans disgust me - you included http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-12-2016/P3sxGL.gif :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Honestly. That's way too harsh. Sorry, but what the f*** is wrong with you? Nothing at all, I'm just used to a different legal system. One where a few years in jail is considered harsh for grooming and molesting a child? Sounds like a terrible legal system. There's difference between "a few years" and "up to 10 years." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I do love the "hes a bit of a nonce" comment that the school friend used to describe him Wonder what he'd needed to do to qualify as a full nonce? Is he a 25% nonce at the moment? If he's a full nonce he'd have got that blow job. Oh he definitely did, the evidence just wasn't enough to convict. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Honestly. That's way too harsh. Sorry, but what the f*** is wrong with you? Nothing at all, I'm just used to a different legal system. One where a few years in jail is considered harsh for grooming and molesting a child? Sounds like a terrible legal system. There's difference between "a few years" and "up to 10 years." He's most likely not going to get 10 or close to it. I honestly wouldn't think twice if we put away kiddie touchers for life. Fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I haven't read through all of the comments, but now that the trial is over and pending his sentencing do you think it's likely there'll be any measures taken against SAFC? Bearing in mind they continued to employ and play the man. You'd think they'd have some sort of duty of care. I mean has he continued to go on school and hospital visits and been involved in the community side of the football club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I haven't read through all of the comments, but now that the trial is over and pending his sentencing do you think it's likely there'll be any measures taken against SAFC? Bearing in mind they continued to employ and play the man. You'd think they'd have some sort of duty of care. I mean has he continued to go on school and hospital visits and been involved in the community side of the football club? no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Honestly. That's way too harsh. Sorry, but what the f*** is wrong with you? Nothing at all, I'm just used to a different legal system. One where a few years in jail is considered harsh for grooming and molesting a child? Sounds like a terrible legal system. There's difference between "a few years" and "up to 10 years." The Butcher strikes again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 If he's a full nonce he'd have got that blow job. So not a 'full blown' nonce then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Totalsport on bbc radio Newcastle now. Now they can speak about it it'll be interesting to hear some mackems views on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Honestly. That's way too harsh. Sorry, but what the f*** is wrong with you? Nothing at all, I'm just used to a different legal system. One where a few years in jail is considered harsh for grooming and molesting a child? Sounds like a terrible legal system. There's difference between "a few years" and "up to 10 years." He's most likely not going to get 10 or close to it. I honestly wouldn't think twice if we put away kiddie touchers for life. Fuck them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 SAFC statement getting a hammering off everyone now. Mentions the victim once - in the second last paragraph! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 can you jail a club? thoughts with the victim sunderland you are a fucking disgrace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 can you jail a club? It's already in Sunderland, where worse could you put it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 As a Sunderland fan that statement is a disgrace. What it leaves out is probably most damning. It was said in court by Johnson and a police officer, that the club knew of the grooming and the kissing. That statement from the club does not address this claim. If they knew, which seems probable, then that is nothing short of scandalous and whoever knew should be sacked. Shame on them and their pathetic jargon filled attempt to wriggle out any blame. As for Johnson? He's blew his career and freedom for quick fondle in the back of his car and I don't have one iota of sympathy for him. Whatever sentence the judge passes down will be well deserved. Ok, first of all, who are they going to sack? Margaret Byrne? do you think she was the only one aware? don't you think she will have spoke to Short? he is her immediate boss and she i not the top of the tree, he can't sack himself? he IS the boss, he owns the whole shebang. with all previous lighthearted comments aside before any final judgement was made i find it absolutely f***ing disgusting that they oknew what he had done after being privvy to the messages etc As for your comments about a quick fondle in the back of the car, you really need to give your head a shake, he has been found guilty of 3 out of 4 charges with a girl who had just turned 15yrs old ffs. he has gone out with the intention of getting as much sexual pleasure from a 15yr old child as he could Your whole club and the majority of your sick pathetic fans disgust me - you included Wow,this is up there with celebrating a mackem goal that puts them above us and us back in the relegation spot to satisfy a bit of Pardfail lust,it's downright kiddy fiddley in the obsession stakes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 can you jail a club? It's already in Sunderland, where worse could you put it? indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fenham Mag Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I would also like to echo my disgust in Sunderland Association Football Club. They are from the bottom to the very top a vile institution. Let's run through a select few examples for 'guests' viewing: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sunderland/6680048/Darren-Bents-mother-suffers-racial-abuse-by-Sunderland-fan.html http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/jan/16/fa-sunderland-pitch-invader-steve-harper-newcastle http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/apr/01/david-miliband-resign-sunderland-di-canio http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/adam-johnson-not-suspended-sunderland-5575356 http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/02/adam-johnson-not-guilty-one-count-of-sex-with-schoolgirl To respect the legal process, Sunderland AFC was unable to comment on this case until after the jury had delivered its verdict. It has now done so and we thank our supporters for their patience and understanding. We now wish to clarify certain matters which arose during the trial.” “Mr. Johnson was suspended by the club immediately following his arrest on March 2, 2015. At that time, the club was advised by police of the broad nature of the allegations against Mr. Johnson, who was being advised at all times by his own legal team. The club felt that the decision to suspend was appropriate at that time, even though he had not then been charged with any offence. Two weeks later, his suspension was lifted after a meeting between the club and the Professional Footballers' Association (PFA), and after the club took independent legal advice. The club reached this decision only after carrying out a safeguarding assessment and liaising with relevant agencies. “On 23 April 2015, Mr. Johnson was charged with four offences. The club was informed that it was Mr. Johnson's intention to defend all the charges, a stance he maintained right up until the first day of trial. The club continued to review the safeguarding procedures it had put in place throughout this time. “On 4 May 2015, an introductory meeting took place between Mr. Johnson, his father and Orlando Pownall QC. Mr. Pownall had not previously met Mr. Johnson. The club's CEO was present during part of that meeting. During the time that she was present there was no suggestion whatsoever that Mr. Johnson would be changing his plea. Some documents were received relating to the case, which were immediately sent to Mr. Pownall for his attention. However, the club was not in a position to make any judgment on the outcome of the case nor on Mr. Johnson's decision to defend all the allegations. Following that meeting, Mr. Johnson again confirmed to the club, presumably on advice from his own legal team, that his intention was to defend the charges in their entirety and he was confident of success once all evidence had been considered. He subsequently entered not guilty pleas to all charges on 6 June 2015. “The club did not give evidence either for the prosecution or the defence in this case. It was therefore not present in court when it is understood that a suggestion was made that the club knew all along that Mr. Johnson was intending to change his plea just before trial to enable him to continue to play football for the club and that the club may also have been involved in tactical discussions about the plea. This is utterly without foundation and is refuted in the strongest possible terms. The club never placed any pressure or demands on Mr. Johnson to play football during this process. Decisions in relation to the pleas and the conduct of the trial have been left entirely to Mr. Johnson and his highly experienced and skilled legal team. Mr. Johnson has admitted in evidence that he changed his plea "on legal advice". “The club only became aware of the change of plea, in relation to two of the four counts on the indictment, on the first day of the trial, after hearing it reported through the media. The club was not advised in advance that Mr. Johnson would plead guilty to any offence. Had the club known that Mr. Johnson intended to plead guilty to any of these charges, then his employment would have been terminated immediately. Indeed, upon learning of the guilty plea on 11 February 2016, the club acted quickly and decisively in terminating Adam Johnson's contract without notice. “This has been an extremely difficult time for all involved. The victim and her family have endured an unimaginable ordeal in the last 12 months and we trust that they will now be allowed to move on with their lives without further intrusion or public scrutiny. “Following the announcement of today's verdict and the release of this detailed statement, the club intends to make no further comment.” How can any dignified person be proud of this club - get out of the Premier League and never come back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCW1983 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 The damage that SAFC will suffer from this is immeasurable, It'll be interesting to see how sponsor etc react to their failure to act when they first found out and also how future sponsorships etc will be affected. All that aside they will be remembered for a very long time as a club that knowingly supported a pedophile, i suspect that similar to Boro (even though they don't have a direct link to those crimes) they will be tarnished and ridiculed for years to come. As a business decision it was a spectacularly bad one, as a club that is formed from and for the community its an absolute disgrace. Ironically i actually feel sorry for the SAFC fans that would never have supported him had they known the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Mackem commentator on the radio saying the club were naive and wrong. Good on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Adam Johnson told by judge to "say goodbye to your daughter". Ooph. Sucks to be him right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Mackem commentator on the radio saying the club were naive and wrong. Good on him. Naive is giving them an excuse. I'd use the word "tactical" rather than "naive". I doubt they'd have played him at all if they weren't in a relegation fight. They played him and he helped keep them up (and win another derby). Financially it was easily worth it for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midstoon Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Stay Classy http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3461705/Video-shows-Sunderland-fans-backing-Adam-Johnson-arrest.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Minimum 5 years? Oh Adam, you've had a mare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 First item on the National news! Take that Dawn Thewlis and your small-time local magedia! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Imagine going home and realising that you're going to prison for at least 5 years I was pissed off when I got home and realised I needed to do some ironing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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