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Seriously, the obsession in the UK with the manager having final say on transfers is getting really annoying now. Nowhere else is it a problem for managers to have someone above him handling transfers in and out.

The problem with our system won't be that Schteve won't have the final say, but that we'll happily sell any player and then simply not bother replacing him, as well as our extreme penny pinching that won't see us pay the going rate for anyone.

I disagree, ultimately each club employs a manager and supposedly trusts their opinion and knowledge of football, so back that trust by letting him have the final say on the players he will be working with day in day out. If you don't trust the managers opinions on football to that extent why the f*** are you employing him then.

 

That's silly. Clubs trust their manager's opinion, and that's why a properly run club will have a manager's input on what are his perceived needs for the squad. But a specialised Football Director will have more time and knowledge to go and comb the market, and then come back with a list of players which the manager will again get to comment on. And no responsible DoF will ever sign a player that a manager doesn't want, it never works.

 

That's how it works in Europe, and it's not like European clubs suck compared to English ones.

 

Also, separating player recruitment from the figure of the manager allows the club to have a stability in footballing philosophy. Look at us, we have had several managers in the past 10 years, and all have put its stamp on the team, but the overall approach to how we play has been essentially the same.

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Seriously, the obsession in the UK with the manager having final say on transfers is getting really annoying now. Nowhere else is it a problem for managers to have someone above him handling transfers in and out.

The problem with our system won't be that Schteve won't have the final say, but that we'll happily sell any player and then simply not bother replacing him, as well as our extreme penny pinching that won't see us pay the going rate for anyone.

I disagree, ultimately each club employs a manager and supposedly trusts their opinion and knowledge of football, so back that trust by letting him have the final say on the players he will be working with day in day out. If you don't trust the managers opinions on football to that extent why the fuck are you employing him then.

It doesn't make sense having ONE man in charge of the entire running of the football side of things though. Let the manager be in charge of coaching and tactics and someone else handle transfers. It's not an issue whether you trust your manager or not, it's about sharing responsibilities between more people.

Sure, a manager will have scouts under him that will do a lot of work, but ultimately, the more you have seen of a player, the better you will know him and a DOF will always have time to watch more players and study them more carefully than a manager.

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Seriously, the obsession in the UK with the manager having final say on transfers is getting really annoying now. Nowhere else is it a problem for managers to have someone above him handling transfers in and out.

The problem with our system won't be that Schteve won't have the final say, but that we'll happily sell any player and then simply not bother replacing him, as well as our extreme penny pinching that won't see us pay the going rate for anyone.

I disagree, ultimately each club employs a manager and supposedly trusts their opinion and knowledge of football, so back that trust by letting him have the final say on the players he will be working with day in day out. If you don't trust the managers opinions on football to that extent why the fuck are you employing him then.

 

You're employing him because you trust his opinion on coaching, team selection and tactics.  He's there to coach the team, select the players and work out the best way to beat whatever team we're playing.  That doesn't mean he has to be ultimately responsible for absolutely everything.  The most important thing is that the manager/head coach should be the one to tell people which positions need to be filled, if he wants a central defender and a striker we shouldn't be signing a left back and a right winger.  But it should be up to the recruitment people to go out and look for the central defender and striker, report back to the head coach, discuss things and then come to a agreement.

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Seriously, the obsession in the UK with the manager having final say on transfers is getting really annoying now. Nowhere else is it a problem for managers to have someone above him handling transfers in and out.

The problem with our system won't be that Schteve won't have the final say, but that we'll happily sell any player and then simply not bother replacing him, as well as our extreme penny pinching that won't see us pay the going rate for anyone.

I disagree, ultimately each club employs a manager and supposedly trusts their opinion and knowledge of football, so back that trust by letting him have the final say on the players he will be working with day in day out. If you don't trust the managers opinions on football to that extent why the f*** are you employing him then.

 

Apart from Arsene Wenger I can´t say that there are any real managers left.. At all clubs there are transfer committees with 3-5 people all having their say about new players. At City as an example it´s the head coach, the DoF, the head scout, the CEO and someone else I forgot that decide on new players

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I don't think final say is that important either TBH. It's a negotiation, sometimes the manager will get exactly the player he wants and sometimes he won't. Whatever, his job is to get the best out of them.

Of course it is, it's the most important say of all in fact, it decides whether or now we're going to attempt to sign the player :lol:
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I don't think final say is that important either TBH. It's a negotiation, sometimes the manager will get exactly the player he wants and sometimes he won't. Whatever, his job is to get the best out of them.

 

I agree, as long as he is part of the process and has his input that's what counts, for example if they are targeting a striker, the manager says what he needs this or that characteristic/skill wise and then a list is drawn up each meeting the clubs demands for a certain age, fee, wages etc as long as the manager would be happy with any of the 2/3 on the list it isn't the end of the world he didn't get his number one pick. The issue has been we have just signed a player and said to the manager here he is make it work.

 

Not saying its perfect as we no doubt will pick the cheaper not the best option but it will hopefully mean the manager is willing to play the person and not write them off the second they land on the training ground.

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There is no other sport in the world where a manager/coach leads player recruitment. And in football, where talent can come from anywhere on the planet, it's even more ridiculous to think it would be successful.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our setup on paper. The problem is we're run by a cheap prick and we do most of our shopping in the bargain aisle with an eye on a purely financial ROI, instead of filling needs and reaching for that extra bit of quality.

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There is no other sport in the world where a manager/coach leads player recruitment. And in football, where talent can come from anywhere on the planet, it's even more ridiculous to think it would be successful.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our setup on paper. The problem is we're run by a cheap prick and we do most of our shopping in the bargain aisle with an eye on a purely financial ROI, instead of filling needs and reaching for that extra bit of quality.

Aye and we sell all of our good players quickly. We rarely give contract extensions to senior players. Just a merry-go-round.

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There is no other sport in the world where a manager/coach leads player recruitment. And in football, where talent can come from anywhere on the planet, it's even more ridiculous to think it would be successful.

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with our setup on paper. The problem is we're run by a cheap prick and we do most of our shopping in the bargain aisle with an eye on a purely financial ROI, instead of filling needs and reaching for that extra bit of quality.

 

i agree with this completely

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