mozy Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Pardew didn't manage Thauvin. Anyway, if true he's absolutely right. Which talented footballer would want to come and waste their career at Mike Ashley's cheap shell of a once great club? He did manage Cabella though, who was arguably the more talented player. If he had managed Thauvin the lad would probably be stacking shelves in Tesco by now. Going from what we know they both appear totally unsuited to the Premier League at this stage of their careers. A job well done once again by Graham Carr. Who'd have thought signing players who don't have a position wouldn't work well in a side that hasn't had a philosophy in terms of style or formation in about 12 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Pardew didn't manage Thauvin. Anyway, if true he's absolutely right. Which talented footballer would want to come and waste their career at Mike Ashley's cheap shell of a once great club? He did manage Cabella though, who was arguably the more talented player. If he had managed Thauvin the lad would probably be stacking shelves in Tesco by now. Going from what we know they both appear totally unsuited to the Premier League at this stage of their careers. A job well done once again by Graham Carr. Who'd have thought signing players who don't have a position wouldn't work well in a side that hasn't had a philosophy in terms of style or formation in about 12 years. What we know is that neither player has been given a fair chance to settle into this new league/club. Physically less imposing players have done well in this league, so to suggest these players could never cut it in this league is not something I would take as a given. We are absolutely diabolical when it comes to developing and getting the best out of creative players and wingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 To get the best out of those players you need to allow them the creative scope to be a maverick. That needs a strong spine with great organisation. The only time we've come close to having this recently was with prime Colo, Tiote, Cabaye and Ba in the side, and Pardew wasted all that talent. That spine has all moved on or gone to shit and we haven't come anywhere near to replacing it. A spine has to be good players in the prime of their careers. We don't have anyone who's currently in that 'prime' stage. They're all wantaways, washed up, shit or kids. It's a total shambles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 David Silva thrives in this league and he a piss-weak dwarf. In fact, the same goes for Hwan Mata. Amazing what proper management can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 David Silva thrives in this league and he a piss-weak dwarf. In fact, the same goes for Hwan Mata. Amazing what proper management can do. Both players can protect the ball a lot better than Cabella could Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Bingo. Physicality helps but to be honest if you're a creative attacking player the pressure is on the defender to provide physical presence. Excessive amount usually results in said attacker getting a free kick anyway. Cabella/HBA/Sissoko whoever have had the weight of expectation squarely on their shoulders and get hung out to dry from it. I'm not convinced by Thauvin either from what I've seen but that not very much is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 We need players now who will hit the ground running not larvae butterfly stuff where you have to wait months and months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I rate Lacazette, but why not go for Remy on loan and Austin in right now? Would cost way less than £19m and both are proven Premier League goal scorers. Proven quality is what we need and immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 We've never bid £22m, a cynic would say that kind of talk is very well timed, surely season tickets can't be up for renewal ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 David Silva thrives in this league and he a p*ss-weak dwarf. In fact, the same goes for Hwan Mata. Amazing what proper management can do. I would point out those two (especially Silva) play the game in their head a step before other players. A player with a clever noggin is very good to have. Good point though, decent management would be nice like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Lacazette is a quality player so I'd obviously have him here, but that money needs spread out over a few positions. He's a smart lad to turn us down, though, no doubt about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so fucking boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one fucking thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the fuck out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so f***ing boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one f***ing thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the f*** out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. f*** off. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I rate Lacazette, but why not go for Remy on loan and Austin in right now? Would cost way less than £19m and both are proven Premier League goal scorers. Proven quality is what we need and immediately. Far to sensible an option that man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so f***ing boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one f***ing thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the f*** out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. f*** off. Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so f***ing boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one f***ing thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the f*** out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. f*** off. Exactly. But it's the same mugs that fall for the carrot and keep chasing after it in hope. Empty words and promises, plus we shouldn't "expect" we'll get vilified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I rate Lacazette, but why not go for Remy on loan and Austin in right now? Would cost way less than £19m and both are proven Premier League goal scorers. Proven quality is what we need and immediately. Far to sensible an option that man. Without wanting to sound wacky or anything. Lacazette is possibly more realistic than the others. Remy has been here before, unlikely to come back. Austin doesn't need to showcase his talents to get a move, he could go to a better team at the moment. Lacazette could easily do what Remy did with QPR. Come here, little to lose, show that he can do it in the Premier League, and then move on to someone better if he does well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so f***ing boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one f***ing thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the f*** out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. f*** off. Spot on. I've been bored shitless for years. Whole thing is a completely pointless exercise and I'm glad I effectively opted out of going to matches a few seasons ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so f***ing boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one f***ing thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the f*** out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. f*** off. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so fucking boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one fucking thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the fuck out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. Fuck off. Don't know where this is coming from at all tbh. We've got an ex England manager, a club legend on the board, were amongst the top spenders in the league in the summer, our MD has been working in the club for more than a decade, so he knows the club and area inside out. We've got the same shirt manufacturer as Borussia Dortmund, one of the highest rated clubs in Europe, Wonga as sponsors who changed the name of our ground back to what it's always been. We've even said that these days we are going to try and win games in the cups as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Hope we stay up though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The club is dead. The faster it gets relegated into oblivion and folds or changes its name so that we can all fully accept that reality, the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 This club is so fucking boring. Everything we do is so self-destructive that it's actually become a borefest. Giving the fans absolutely NOTHING to be happy about or proud of? Really? Not one fucking thing? A good manager? no, a good strong balanced squad? no, a director that has the first clue about football? no, decent sponsor? no, results? no, ambition to try to win as many matches regardless of competition? no. Get the fuck out of here. And we're still sat here supporting this hollow shell. Fuck off. Don't know where this is coming from at all tbh. We've got an ex England manager, a club legend on the board, were amongst the top spenders in the league in the summer, our MD has been working in the club for more than a decade, so he knows the club and area inside out. We've got the same shirt manufacturer as Borussia Dortmund, one of the highest rated clubs in Europe, Wonga as sponsors who changed the name of our ground back to what it's always been. We've even said that these days we are going to try and win games in the cups as well. http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/cwtf.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Complaining about ashley is pointless. He has this club in a vice grip that won't be let go till he dies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Complaining about ashley is pointless. He has this club in a vice grip that won't be let go till he dies We best not complain then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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