Mole_Toonfan Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think its been said before but French League is very slow paced and less space in between the midfield and defense. So attacking players tend to come from France and do quite well over here if they are actually any good but defenders struggle because of the much quicker pace. Its definitely no Holland as far as goalscoring goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Not this fucking guy AGAIN Seemed pretty obvious we'd be back in for him either in January or next summer. As for his goal record, while its 1 in 3 overall its been better than that for the last couple of seasons. 14 from 36 in 2011/12 and 16 from 37 in 2012/13 (close to 1 in 2). Not that 1 in 3 was ever a bad goal return, even in Ligue 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-chase-wilfried-zaha-transfer-2711400#ixzz2k67S2fNk Zaha linked again. I don't know what to make of this player, because for some reason he seems to have gone backwards over the last season and a half. He actually looks less skilful than he did before, somehow. I don't particularly trust Pardew's judgement of a player and I'd rather steer clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Nicko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I'd take Zaha but he'd be a squad player so I'm not sure Man Utd would agree to him moving marginally up the pecking order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed that Gomis lad in jan. Has a similar feel to the Debuchy situation and our general transfer outlook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ben Arfa's dropped because he won't work his bollocks off for the team, no chance we'll be bringing in this lad, even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ben Arfa would be playing if he was doing what he did at Villa on a more regular basis regardless of work rate imo. He's been dropped because he hasn't been dangerous in an attacking sense since that match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ben Arfa would be playing if he was doing what he did at Villa on a more regular basis regardless of work rate imo. He's been dropped because he hasn't been dangerous in an attacking sense since that match. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ben Arfa's dropped because he won't work his bollocks off for the team, no chance we'll be bringing in this lad, even worse. Does Remy like? Carry one, but two? Doesn't work. Remy has been more dangerous than Ben Arfa so rightfully picked ahead of him. Doubt we'll see Remy Ben Arfa on oppositive wings very much under Pardew. I see no point in taking Zaha when Ben Arfa can't even start for us, rather look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Again, if they do what they're capable of in an attacking sense (a la Villa), I bet Pardew would love to be able to play both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Again, if they do what they're capable of in an attacking sense (a la Villa), I bet Pardew would love to be able to play both. Of course, which manager wouldn't. Not as simple as you make it out to be though, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 It is though. Ben Arfa sorts himself out and does what he and we know he can, then he plays. Simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 It is though. Ben Arfa sorts himself out and does what he and we know he can, then he plays. Simple as that. When has Ben Arfa sorted himself out in his career to date Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Pardew has dropped players to get them to see his way and it has worked I just do not think it will work with Hatem. I doubt very much he will react in the way Matta has for Jose or Tiote for Pards, more chance of him going off on one and wanting to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Pardew has dropped players to get them to see his way and it has worked I just do not think it will work with Hatem. I doubt very much he will react in the way Matta has for Jose or Tiote for Pards, more chance of him going off on one and wanting to leave. Ben Arfa is surely the best example of that working? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Pardew has dropped players to get them to see his way and it has worked I just do not think it will work with Hatem. I doubt very much he will react in the way Matta has for Jose or Tiote for Pards, more chance of him going off on one and wanting to leave. Ben Arfa is surely the best example of that working? How is it working? he is still being benched Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ben Arfa's dropped because he won't work his bollocks off for the team, no chance we'll be bringing in this lad, even worse. Ben Arfa has been dropped because he has provided nothing at all in his last few matches and probably been one of the worst players. If he was tearing teams apart, like we know he is capable of doing, he would start even if he sat down and started tying his boots every time the other team had the ball. Even when Ben Arfa "tracks back" (runs around aimlessly in our end, completely lacking the mentality or skill to actually defend) he isn't that helpful as a defender. I'd take Zaha but he'd be a squad player so I'm not sure Man Utd would agree to him moving marginally up the pecking order. Marginally? Zaha is fit and has played in only one competitive match for Manchester. It is a very strange transfer. How can you sign someone (a 20 year old England international at that!) for 15 million and then not even give them a chance to play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ben Arfa's dropped because he won't work his bollocks off for the team, no chance we'll be bringing in this lad, even worse. Ben Arfa has been dropped because he has provided nothing at all in his last few matches and probably been one of the worst players. If he was tearing teams apart, like we know he is capable of doing, he would start even if he sat down and started tying his boots every time the other team had the ball. Even when Ben Arfa "tracks back" (runs around aimlessly in our end, completely lacking the mentality or skill to actually defend) he isn't that helpful as a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Pardew has dropped players to get them to see his way and it has worked I just do not think it will work with Hatem. I doubt very much he will react in the way Matta has for Jose or Tiote for Pards, more chance of him going off on one and wanting to leave. Ben Arfa is surely the best example of that working? How is it working? he is still being benched "Still benched"...it's been 3 games? I'm betting it'll just take one good sub appearance and he'll be back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Pardew has dropped players to get them to see his way and it has worked I just do not think it will work with Hatem. I doubt very much he will react in the way Matta has for Jose or Tiote for Pards, more chance of him going off on one and wanting to leave. Ben Arfa is surely the best example of that working? How is it working? he is still being benched "Still benched"...it's been 3 games? I'm betting it'll just take one good sub appearance and he'll be back in. Oh you are dead right, get the feeling Pards is bricking it when he drops him so it won't take much for him to be back in the starting 11. I do think though that more fans on with Pardew on this than I expected there would be, Hatem has to find some consistency in his performances, no point being brilliant one in six games. Vern may not be as brilliant but he will perform to his best though ore often than not, hard to play Benny when he is so hit and miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Barely any of our players are consistent like. You're comparing him with Vern, who is the arguably the only player who is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 I'd expect Ben Arfa back in for the Norwich game though, where the emphasis is on us to break through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ben Arfa's dropped because he won't work his bollocks off for the team, no chance we'll be bringing in this lad, even worse. Ben Arfa has been dropped because he has provided nothing at all in his last few matches and probably been one of the worst players. If he was tearing teams apart, like we know he is capable of doing, he would start even if he sat down and started tying his boots every time the other team had the ball. Even when Ben Arfa "tracks back" (runs around aimlessly in our end, completely lacking the mentality or skill to actually defend) he isn't that helpful as a defender. I'd take Zaha but he'd be a squad player so I'm not sure Man Utd would agree to him moving marginally up the pecking order. Marginally? Zaha is fit and has played in only one competitive match for Manchester. It is a very strange transfer. How can you sign someone (a 20 year old England international at that!) for 15 million and then not even give them a chance to play? He wouldn't be first choice so would move up from barely making the bench to making the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Ola Tovoinen (PSV) linked in the local papers again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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