Parky Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I think our experience with Pardew is framing this debate. McC is being diplomatic but my guess is he's pushing for players behind the scenes. He won't go public until he realises that he is on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'd be really p*ssed off after this whole Austin saga if he was then bought by Pardew. It's nailed on to happen as well isn't it? I personally think Austin and Shelvey would be enough to keep us in the league. A finisher and a powerful box to box player should in theory be enough assuming we get no injuries. My gut feeling is we'll sign no one of worth though. the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad the MD proved last season he knows not a f***ing thing about the game of football ashley is absent and concentrating on SD which is worth billions leaving all control to charnley carr is a scout and there's nothing worth saying about moncur my prediction is very little useful transfer business if any and relegation, a normal club would ensure at least 1 player in for manyoo in order to try and make something happen, not this set of clueless bellends the manager is too much of a coward to say what needs saying about the urgent requirement for new players, or he's complicit in agreeing not to sign any which is just as bad How do you work out he too much of a coward to ask for players ? unreal statement, unless you go to the board meetings .... we have 17 points after 20 games man, everyone who has watched us knows we're in desperate need of players all over the pitch and a manager in his situation traditionally would be putting the onus on the board by publicly stating he needs players to make changes but steve is either too scared of losing his job to do so (a la mr pardew) or he's agreed it all up front (as mr pardew might have done tbf) what's the alternative, that he thinks everything really is fine? not a very good one Just because he does not come out in the press and say things does not make him a coward. as I say unreal statement. I am sure with his job on the line he will be asking for more players. unreal to think he not. But as everyone knows the manager at Newcastle has little if any say on transfers. of course they're not the only two options known to man in this scenario, but they're the most likely knowing what we know of the people in charge and the way they operate he's on the board ffs, he knows what's going on or we've been lied to about that as well what gives you faith in any level of honesty at the club after all this time with ashley, 4 years of pardew and then carver? I have no faith, but my point is you called him a coward not asking for players. how do work this out . unless you are in meeting with them you have no idea what is said, like everyone on here. I am sure most managers would like to strengthen their squads each window, so I would imagine he would ask for new players. no i offered two options; first he's a coward because he won't come out and publicly say we need a fresh injection of players ASAP or we're going to be relegated, second he's complicit with charnley et al as part of the board in not doing anything or doing the bare minimum he's supposed to be a football manager man, it shouldn't be his job to manage expectations for the board if that's what he's doing - it should be his job to scream and shout to get more players in because if we don't we're getting relegated...if he comes out and says he wants 4 players in key positions then the pressure is on ashley and charnley isn't it? so he's either afraid to say it, doesn't think it needs saying, or is complicit with the c***s in charge take your pick Just because he says not much in the press does not make him a coward or put pressure on others. too much crap is spoken in the press, we do not know what said in private how much if any money is there for new players.. Neither Ashley or Charnley seem to take much notice of what is said in the press. Everyone should have worked that out by now.. Pardew all over again this like. f***'s sake man. Of course it is. He's the mouthpiece for the board just as Pardew was and people are falling over themselves to convince themselves it's not happening. If we sign a few good players for positions we need I'll hold my hands up like but imo he knows he's not getting what he wants just like Pardew always knew. He should have walked or went public over the Colo fiasco but he set the tone with that really, pliable doormat. Suppose if he's a man of integrity and there's no significant action come 31st January we might well see him resign eh. not many mangers go public about transfers, he knew the job when he took it . so why would he walk away ? All I see him saying about transfers is that the club do things in private. No it's good people still have faith like, faith that he has enough professional integrity not to be Pardew mk2 when everything he's doing and saying suggests that's exactly what he is I have no faith at all in the man but just because he not shouting for players in the press does not mean much to me. If he does not know he needs new players then he should not be in the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 I think our experience with Pardew is framing this debate. McC is being diplomatic but my guess is he's pushing for players behind the scenes. He won't go public until he realises that he is on his own. I agree to an extent but what Mandoon says below echoes what I said, his duty as a manager is as much to the fans as it is to Charnley and the prick out of a Dickens book. Him just trotting out that performances were great when we've took 1 point from 12 and refusing to acknowledge we need new players does nothing but support Charnley and Ashley so imo he's just as bad as Pardew atm albeit he's not as much of a cunt. At least if he was coming out and criticising the attitude and performance of players or something then it would be a tacit implication he wants new faces. Atm he's Saddam Hussein's PR guy basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 At least McClaren isn't actively trying to flog the players. Don't mind him being tight-lipped about transfer activity but his comments will be judged come February. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 At least McClaren isn't actively trying to flog the players. Haha fair point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 It's waaay too early to posit a psychological profile of McC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Yeah he's only been in the game 15-20 years or so as a manager and coach I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 He's a human being with the same fears and desires as the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 He needs a cane with a silver wolf head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Maybe shaving that hair island off would give him a more authoritative aesthetic Squires last cartoon had the island in all its glory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 He's a human being with the same fears and desires as the rest of us. Not really. If he got sacked tomorrow and never got another job he'd be comfortable for the rest of his life. If I had that I would be straight off to the Caribbean to see out my days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-newcastle-told-marseille-striker-7112584 Cisse out for 3 months at the bottom of this article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Bloody hell. That's him away for free in the summer then as well, Mike will be foaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Bloody hell. That's him away for free in the summer then as well, Mike will be foaming. 2017 contract ends so not necessarily but aye, will be reduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 And yet McClaren still talks about the 'attitude of the players' when asked if we're actively interested in a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-newcastle-told-marseille-striker-7112584 Cisse out for 3 months at the bottom of this article. Interestingly this originally stated that Cisse was out for three months and linked to a separate article about it (with a URL like 'Newcastle rocked by Cisse injury' or similar), but the link didn't work and threw you to a 404 page. It now just states he's injured, and there's no link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Bloody hell. That's him away for free in the summer then as well, Mike will be foaming. 2017 contract ends so not necessarily but aye, will be reduced. Ah is it? I was thinking it was this summer for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Bloody hell. That's him away for free in the summer then as well, Mike will be foaming. 2017 contract ends so not necessarily but aye, will be reduced. Ah is it? I was thinking it was this summer for some reason. According to .com it is. Assume it was the old 5.5 on arrival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 And yet McClaren still talks about the 'attitude of the players' when asked if we're actively interested in a striker. Not really sure what he is ment to say in the press. most mangers keep quiet about transfers . Cannot see a problem with it myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 http://i.imgur.com/6eEjO3Q.png What a little cocktease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 http://i.imgur.com/6eEjO3Q.png What a little cocktease. McClaren or you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-offered-chance-re-10679642 He's a mercenary but scores goals. Yes please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samag Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-united-offered-chance-re-10679642 He's a mercenary but scores goals. Yes please. If the storey is true, we be mad not to take him for the rest of season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'd take Remy - defo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Chelsea striker understood to be available to struggling Premier League clubs as Blues ease relegation worries with win at Crystal Palace LOL. That said, I think Chelsea should just sell him. It's not like he's going to get more minutes for them next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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