Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 losses in 9 isn't good no matter what way you look at it, but the reaction on here has been hilarious given the games that we've had. Away to Arsenal, away to Wolves x2, Barca x2, City, away to Everton.Played Liverpool, PSG x2, Chelsea in the weeks before that too. Absolutely stinking run of fixtures that any manager would struggle with. 1 defeat in 5 for Rafa’s shitty lower mid table Mags in the equivalent. And we’re awful as you enjoy telling us. When have I said you're awful? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 losses in 9 isn't good no matter what way you look at it, but the reaction on here has been hilarious given the games that we've had. Away to Arsenal, away to Wolves x2, Barca x2, City, away to Everton. Played Liverpool, PSG x2, Chelsea in the weeks before that too. Absolutely stinking run of fixtures that any manager would struggle with. howay man Wolves have beat Arsenal and Chelsea and got a draw with City there as well. Everton beat Chelsea and Arsenal at Goodison and got a draw with Liverpool. Are we going to pretend they're not good sides and very hard to beat at home? you basically used to own goodison man, and wolves are a newly promoted team playing against your half a billion pound corporate machine you've a fair point on fixtures, was more the contrast of current expectations vs. reality, but you've just handed the job to solksjaer it's no fucking good making excuses...manager of a club that size should be getting results, it's that simple We used to own Goodison because we used to be the best team in the country by a mile. We're not now. It's as simple as that. We haven't come close to winning the league in 6 years. Expectations need to be lowered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 losses in 9 isn't good no matter what way you look at it, but the reaction on here has been hilarious given the games that we've had. Away to Arsenal, away to Wolves x2, Barca x2, City, away to Everton. Played Liverpool, PSG x2, Chelsea in the weeks before that too. Absolutely stinking run of fixtures that any manager would struggle with. howay man Wolves have beat Arsenal and Chelsea and got a draw with City there as well. Everton beat Chelsea and Arsenal at Goodison and got a draw with Liverpool. Are we going to pretend they're not good sides and very hard to beat at home? you basically used to own goodison man, and wolves are a newly promoted team playing against your half a billion pound corporate machine you've a fair point on fixtures, was more the contrast of current expectations vs. reality, but you've just handed the job to solksjaer it's no fucking good making excuses...manager of a club that size should be getting results, it's that simple We used to own Goodison because we used to be the best team in the country by a mile. We're not now. It's as simple as that. We haven't come close to winning the league in 6 years. Expectations need to be lowered. Why? You were the best team in the league and acted accordingly. If you now accept that you are Europa/maybe top 4 and act according to that you (generic, not specifically) will soon be telling the world that Man Utd are no longer a top 6 club and expectations should be lowered to mid table. Facts are in the eyes of many Man U are still one of the biggest clubs in the world with a revenue stream to match, you should Billy Big Bollocks with this, not accept that you are yesterdays men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I'm absolutely not accepting that we're yesterdays men and can't compete again, but this isn't a one transfer window fix. We can't win the league next year and certainly not the Champions League. A lot of our fans think we can just sign a CB and a RB in the summer and we'll be competing again. That's not how it works. City and Liverpool are so far ahead it's crazy. It took Klopp a few years to build this side though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 At what point do the Man Yoo fans start demanding Woodward steps down? (And can we then make all sorts of absurd comparisons about the propensity of certain clubs’ fans to protest versus fans of other clubs?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 At what point do the Man Yoo fans start demanding Woodward steps down? (And can we then make all sorts of absurd comparisons about the propensity of certain clubs’ fans to protest versus fans of other clubs?) Not wanting him out but rather want him to install a footballing director of sorts. He's amazing at the financial side of his job, but he's been making footballing decisions which have hindered the club, such as not wanting to pay £40m for Alderweireld and £50 for Perisic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 At what point do the Man Yoo fans start demanding Woodward steps down? (And can we then make all sorts of absurd comparisons about the propensity of certain clubs’ fans to protest versus fans of other clubs?) Not wanting him out but rather want him to install a footballing director of sorts. He's amazing at the financial side of his job, but he's been making footballing decisions which have hindered the club, such as not wanting to pay £40m for Alderweireld and £50 for Perisic. Join the club, we'd baulk at 50 quid for Perisic as well, at best we'd low ball at a tenner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 We need centre backs. Completely fine in midfield and attack. Go all out for Koulibaly and Skriniar and with someone like Poch we will challenge. Desperately need those centre backs though. Sounds a bit like you thought you could compete with a couple of defenders tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 We need centre backs. Completely fine in midfield and attack. Go all out for Koulibaly and Skriniar and with someone like Poch we will challenge. Desperately need those centre backs though. Sounds a bit like you thought you could compete with a couple of defenders tbh. Koulibaly and Skriniar aren't coming in the same window. That's £200m worth of CB's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 And Pochettino... And Herrera is leaving now too so we're no longer OK in midfield! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Was astonished to see a mooted Lukaku-Icardi swap. I know Icardi has fallen out of favour at Inter, but Man Yoo are massively in front if that's a straight swap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Would not agree that they are completely fine in midfield and attack even if they kept Herrera like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Was astonished to see a mooted Lukaku-Icardi swap. I know Icardi has fallen out of favour at Inter, but Man Yoo are massively in front if that's a straight swap Since a big part of our problem seems to be hard to manage players, I don't think Icardi is the answer. Lukaku is averaging a goal every 170 mins but more importantly works his arse off and keeps his mouth shut. I'd rather we kept Lukaku. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Would not agree that they are completely fine in midfield and attack even if they kept Herrera like I would disagree with myself in December. We need a RW. Sancho please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Was astonished to see a mooted Lukaku-Icardi swap. I know Icardi has fallen out of favour at Inter, but Man Yoo are massively in front if that's a straight swap the ultra's want him gone so maybe that's a factor in that deal. Not that I'd expect it to happen anyway because swaps are so rare anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Froggy, Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Froggy, Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say? That’s an exercise worth repeating for us and you guys tbh - might give it a think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Froggy, Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say? Realistically: OUT Young Mata Matic Jones IN Wan-Bissaka Skriniar Sancho Ziyech If Herrera was to leave I'd be looking at Rice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Froggy, Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say? That’s an exercise worth repeating for us and you guys tbh - might give it a think. From a Man Utd perspective, I'd probably go; Out 1. Pogba 2. Herrera (assuming he's leaving rather than me choosing to flog him) 3. Sanchez 4. Fred IN 1. Wan Bissaka 2. Illaramendi 3. Sancho 4. Alderwiereld Starting 11 would then be: De Gea AWB Alderwiereld Lindelof Shaw Illarendi Mata/Lingaard Sancho Lukaku Rashford Martial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I forgot Sanchez because I don't even see him as a fucking Man United player. I'd swap Mata and Sanchez in my list. Sanchez out to fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Where’s the midfield? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Froggy, Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say? That’s an exercise worth repeating for us and you guys tbh - might give it a think. From a Man Utd perspective, I'd probably go; Out 1. Pogba 2. Herrera (assuming he's leaving rather than me choosing to flog him) 3. Sanchez 4. Fred IN 1. Wan Bissaka 2. Illaramendi 3. Sancho 4. Alderwiereld Starting 11 would then be: De Gea AWB Alderwiereld Lindelof Shaw Illarendi Mata/Lingaard Sancho Lukaku Rashford Martial Illaramendi would have quite a job on his hands in that midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 De Gea Wan-Bissaka Skriniar Lindelof Shaw Herrera Pogba McTominay Sancho Rashford Ziyech Romero Smalling Dalot Fred Lingard Martial Lukaku In my dreams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 De Gea AWB Alder Lindel Shaw Illar Mata Lingaard Martial Lukaku/Rashford Sancho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Is Wan Bissaka good enough? I know he’s good enough to break through at Palace, but start every game for Man Utd? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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