The Managerial Merry Go Round™

[Froggy]

7 losses in 9 isn't good no matter what way you look at it, but the reaction on here has been hilarious given the games that we've had.

 

Away to Arsenal, away to Wolves x2, Barca x2, City, away to Everton.Played Liverpool, PSG x2, Chelsea in the weeks before that too. Absolutely stinking run of fixtures that any manager would struggle with.

 

1 defeat in 5 for Rafa’s shitty lower mid table Mags in the equivalent. And we’re awful as you enjoy telling us.

 

When have I said you're awful?

[Froggy]

7 losses in 9 isn't good no matter what way you look at it, but the reaction on here has been hilarious given the games that we've had.

 

Away to Arsenal, away to Wolves x2, Barca x2, City, away to Everton. Played Liverpool, PSG x2, Chelsea in the weeks before that too. Absolutely stinking run of fixtures that any manager would struggle with.

 

howay man

 

Wolves have beat Arsenal and Chelsea and got a draw with City there as well. Everton beat Chelsea and Arsenal at Goodison and got a draw with Liverpool.

 

Are we going to pretend they're not good sides and very hard to beat at home?

 

 

you basically used to own goodison man, and wolves are a newly promoted team playing against your half a billion pound corporate machine

 

you've a fair point on fixtures, was more the contrast of current expectations vs. reality, but you've just handed the job to solksjaer it's no fucking good making excuses...manager of a club that size should be getting results, it's that simple

 

We used to own Goodison because we used to be the best team in the country by a mile. We're not now. It's as simple as that. We haven't come close to winning the league in 6 years. Expectations need to be lowered.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

7 losses in 9 isn't good no matter what way you look at it, but the reaction on here has been hilarious given the games that we've had.

 

Away to Arsenal, away to Wolves x2, Barca x2, City, away to Everton. Played Liverpool, PSG x2, Chelsea in the weeks before that too. Absolutely stinking run of fixtures that any manager would struggle with.

 

howay man

 

Wolves have beat Arsenal and Chelsea and got a draw with City there as well. Everton beat Chelsea and Arsenal at Goodison and got a draw with Liverpool.

 

Are we going to pretend they're not good sides and very hard to beat at home?

 

 

you basically used to own goodison man, and wolves are a newly promoted team playing against your half a billion pound corporate machine

 

you've a fair point on fixtures, was more the contrast of current expectations vs. reality, but you've just handed the job to solksjaer it's no fucking good making excuses...manager of a club that size should be getting results, it's that simple

 

We used to own Goodison because we used to be the best team in the country by a mile. We're not now. It's as simple as that. We haven't come close to winning the league in 6 years. Expectations need to be lowered.

 

Why?

 

You were the best team in the league and acted accordingly. If you now accept that you are Europa/maybe top 4 and act according to that you (generic, not specifically) will soon be telling the world that Man Utd are no longer a top 6 club and expectations should be lowered to mid table.

 

Facts are in the eyes of many Man U are still one of the biggest clubs in the world with a revenue stream to match, you should Billy Big Bollocks with this, not accept that you are yesterdays men.

[Froggy]

I'm absolutely not accepting that we're yesterdays men and can't compete again, but this isn't a one transfer window fix. We can't win the league next year and certainly not the Champions League. A lot of our fans think we can just sign a CB and a RB in the summer and we'll be competing again. That's not how it works. City and Liverpool are so far ahead it's crazy. It took Klopp a few years to build this side though.

[Raconteur]

At what point do the Man Yoo fans start demanding Woodward steps down?

 

(And can we then make all sorts of absurd comparisons about the propensity of certain clubs’ fans to protest versus fans of other clubs?)

[Froggy]

At what point do the Man Yoo fans start demanding Woodward steps down?

 

(And can we then make all sorts of absurd comparisons about the propensity of certain clubs’ fans to protest versus fans of other clubs?)

 

Not wanting him out but rather want him to install a footballing director of sorts.

 

He's amazing at the financial side of his job, but he's been making footballing decisions which have hindered the club, such as not wanting to pay £40m for Alderweireld and £50 for Perisic.

[Colos Short and Curlies]

At what point do the Man Yoo fans start demanding Woodward steps down?

 

(And can we then make all sorts of absurd comparisons about the propensity of certain clubs’ fans to protest versus fans of other clubs?)

 

Not wanting him out but rather want him to install a footballing director of sorts.

 

He's amazing at the financial side of his job, but he's been making footballing decisions which have hindered the club, such as not wanting to pay £40m for Alderweireld and £50 for Perisic.

 

Join the club, we'd baulk at 50 quid for Perisic as well, at best we'd low ball at a tenner

[leffe186]

We need centre backs. Completely fine in midfield and attack.

 

Go all out for Koulibaly and Skriniar and with someone like Poch we will challenge. Desperately need those centre backs though.

 

Sounds a bit like you thought you could compete with a couple of defenders tbh.

[Froggy]

We need centre backs. Completely fine in midfield and attack.

 

Go all out for Koulibaly and Skriniar and with someone like Poch we will challenge. Desperately need those centre backs though.

 

Sounds a bit like you thought you could compete with a couple of defenders tbh.

 

Koulibaly and Skriniar aren't coming in the same window. That's £200m worth of CB's.

[Froggy]

And Pochettino...

 

And Herrera is leaving now too so we're no longer OK in midfield!

[Raconteur]

Was astonished to see a mooted Lukaku-Icardi swap. I know Icardi has fallen out of favour at Inter, but Man Yoo are massively in front if that's a straight swap

[triggs]

Would not agree that they are completely fine in midfield and attack even if they kept Herrera like

[Froggy]

Was astonished to see a mooted Lukaku-Icardi swap. I know Icardi has fallen out of favour at Inter, but Man Yoo are massively in front if that's a straight swap

 

Since a big part of our problem seems to be hard to manage players, I don't think Icardi is the answer. Lukaku is averaging a goal every 170 mins but more importantly works his arse off and keeps his mouth shut. I'd rather we kept Lukaku.

[Froggy]

Would not agree that they are completely fine in midfield and attack even if they kept Herrera like

 

I would disagree with myself in December. We need a RW. Sancho please.

[jdckelly]

Was astonished to see a mooted Lukaku-Icardi swap. I know Icardi has fallen out of favour at Inter, but Man Yoo are massively in front if that's a straight swap

the ultra's want him gone so maybe that's a factor in that deal. Not that I'd expect it to happen anyway because swaps are so rare anyway

[Minhosa]

Froggy,

 

Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say?

[leffe186]

Froggy,

 

Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say?

 

That’s an exercise worth repeating for us and you guys tbh - might give it a think.

[Froggy]

Froggy,

 

Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say?

 

Realistically:

 

OUT

Young

Mata

Matic

Jones

 

IN

Wan-Bissaka

Skriniar

Sancho

Ziyech

 

If Herrera was to leave I'd be looking at Rice.

[Minhosa]

Froggy,

 

Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say?

 

That’s an exercise worth repeating for us and you guys tbh - might give it a think.

 

From a Man Utd perspective, I'd probably go;

 

Out

1. Pogba

2. Herrera (assuming he's leaving rather than me choosing to flog him)

3. Sanchez

4. Fred

 

IN

 

1. Wan Bissaka

2. Illaramendi

3. Sancho

4. Alderwiereld

 

Starting 11 would then be:

 

De Gea

 

AWB

Alderwiereld

Lindelof

Shaw

 

Illarendi

Mata/Lingaard

Sancho

 

Lukaku

Rashford

Martial

[Froggy]

I forgot Sanchez because I don't even see him as a fucking Man United player. I'd swap Mata and Sanchez in my list. Sanchez out to fuck.

[tgarve]

Where’s the midfield?

[triggs]

Froggy,

 

Out of interest, if you could only ship out 4 players and only bring in 4 (realistic) players, who would you say?

 

That’s an exercise worth repeating for us and you guys tbh - might give it a think.

 

From a Man Utd perspective, I'd probably go;

 

Out

1. Pogba

2. Herrera (assuming he's leaving rather than me choosing to flog him)

3. Sanchez

4. Fred

 

IN

 

1. Wan Bissaka

2. Illaramendi

3. Sancho

4. Alderwiereld

 

Starting 11 would then be:

 

De Gea

 

AWB

Alderwiereld

Lindelof

Shaw

 

Illarendi

Mata/Lingaard

Sancho

 

Lukaku

Rashford

Martial

Illaramendi would have quite a job on his hands in that midfield

[Froggy]

De Gea

 

Wan-Bissaka

Skriniar

Lindelof

Shaw

 

Herrera

Pogba

McTominay

 

Sancho

Rashford

Ziyech

 

Romero

Smalling

Dalot

Fred

Lingard

Martial

Lukaku

 

In my dreams.

[Minhosa]

                              De Gea

 

AWB            Alder            Lindel            Shaw

 

                              Illar

 

              Mata                    Lingaard

 

Martial                Lukaku/Rashford          Sancho

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Is Wan Bissaka good enough? I know he’s good enough to break through at Palace, but start every game for Man Utd?