The Managerial Merry Go Round™

[Decky]

59 minutes ago, Vaj said:

Must be strange for the fans as surely the Championship seasons for these teams are more exciting than the Premier League ones and therefore getting promoted doesn't become exciting as you just know that you are going to get spanked the following season. 

 

I genuinely don't know why you'd be looking forward to promotion as one of these fans. No one is gonna tell me Saints fans enjoyed this season over last season. So you get to play big clubs instead of the likes of Plymouth every week, who gives a fuck though if you end up having 10 points after 31 games?

[Ben]

1 hour ago, Decky said:

Promotion in the Premier League is becoming more and more pointless as every season passes. Obviously there's a financial benefit but the promoted clubs need an exceptional season to even have a sniff of staying up. They can't throw money behind the squad to improve it because the costs of going from the top of the Championship to mid table Premier League are well beyond what PSR allows. 

 

Forest went for it and got punished, now it's worked out for them in the long run but other clubs won't want to take the risk of points being deducted. Just look at the Championship table now. Sheffield United were a joke last season and now they're on course to come back. Just completely and utterly pointless as they'll clearly be getting smashed and sent back down next season if they do come up. 

 

 

 

 

Ipswich have spent £107 million, Southampton £122 million and Leicester £90 million, surely building on a promotion team they should be doing better. 

[Optimistic Nut]

20 minutes ago, andycap said:

Rogers was Leicesters problem buying everybody he could. And then not using them.

Put them in a financial mess. 

 

As others have mentioned. He won the FA Cup, finished 5th twice and finished 8th the season before they went down. The team they went down with should never have went down when you look at the teams above them (Barnes, Maddison, Tielemans, Vardy...), they made a calamity of a decision by not replacing Schmeichel properly in goal and it's set them back years. 

[Froggy]

5 minutes ago, Decky said:

I genuinely don't know why you'd be looking forward to promotion as one of these fans. No one is gonna tell me Saints fans enjoyed this season over last season. So you get to play big clubs instead of the likes of Plymouth every week, who gives a fuck though if you end up having 10 points after 31 games?

 

Roy Keane and Micah Richard's analyse their games now though. You just don't get that in the Championship.

[54]

11 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Ipswich have spent £107 million, Southampton £122 million and Leicester £90 million, surely building on a promotion team they should be doing better. 

I feel like them spending stats are a massive misnomer like, thats not a massive amount these days, especially if you're someone like Ipswich, where 2/3rds of their squad last year where with them in League One. Especially when you think that £30M gets you a Patrick Dorgu, and all the other clubs in the league will be spending that amount (Roughly £100m) on improving their teams on top of their already massively advantageous Premier League squad.

[Groundhog63]

54 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Ipswich have spent £107 million, Southampton £122 million and Leicester £90 million, surely building on a promotion team they should be doing better. 

 

Seems a bit disingenuous using promoted team's spending as a stick to beat them with. 

After all, we've spent a fair bit but the fall back position has always, quite rightly, been "yeah, but look at the squad we/he inherited" 

 

Goes for those 3 teams as well. 

[James]

Let’s forget about Leicester before their last relegation, they went down as a ‘too good to go down’ team followed by a quick reset in the Championship quite similar to how we twice did it.

 

Lots has been gotten wrong since they came back up. Losing Maresca was something they couldn’t avoid but Cooper was a good appointment, they would have at least run Wolves close had he been kept on.

 

but instead they sack him for Ruud van Nistelrooy who is the worst Ruud to have ever managed a PL team

[Jimburst]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

 

He won an FA Cup and got them two 5th place finishes

 

 That's better than Howe 

[Robster]

Wasn't andycap's point being that his and the club's spending during his tenure left Leicester in a bad financial situation, rather than questioning what he had achieved ? (I have no clue whether andycap is correct in that assertion)

 

 

Edited April 7 by Robster

[toon25]

Juric, man 

 

If a further lesson was needed, Ipswich and Southampton are reasons why Champo sides should avoid building a football culture around a tippy-tappy possession-based game. Once they get up their players are just not good enough to sustain playing that way.

[andycap]

15 minutes ago, Robster said:

Wasn't andycap's point being that his and the club's spending during his tenure left Leicester in a bad financial situation, rather than questioning what he had achieved ? (I have no clue whether andycap is correct in that assertion)

 

 

 

That was my point lad I know he won the cup but he left them with players they couldn't shift on massive wages. 

[Jonas]

4 hours ago, 54 said:

I feel like them spending stats are a massive misnomer like, thats not a massive amount these days, especially if you're someone like Ipswich, where 2/3rds of their squad last year where with them in League One. Especially when you think that £30M gets you a Patrick Dorgu, and all the other clubs in the league will be spending that amount (Roughly £100m) on improving their teams on top of their already massively advantageous Premier League squad.

That's the nub of it for me.  An achillies paradox with current rules they have to catch up to a better team that's been able to spend more money for at least one season by having effectively no more than the same spend available to them going into a new season.

 

 

 

Edited April 7 by Jonas

[joeyt]

Just reading some of the comments on a BBC video of Thomas Frank @Disco

 

 

[andycap]

6 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Just reading some of the comments on a BBC video of Thomas Frank @Disco

 

 

Disco probably was the fella putting the 😂 emojis on them. 

[Disco]

#DefundTheBBC 

[Kaizero]

I absolutely love when new "Gennaro Gattuso being Gennaro Gattuso" moments occur, please enjoy watching Gattuso (now managing Hajduk Split) coming in for a post-match interview; being asked a question in Italian, responding in English by asking another reporter if he speaks English, the reporter saying yes – then the two argue in Spanish, which isn't the native language of any of them – before Gattuso turns away from the guy shouting "I don't want to speak with you!" in English, before then going back to speaking Italian with the first reporter

 

 

 

Never change, Gattuso. Never change  

[TRon]

Did RVN get hired on the back of a 4 game winning run as caretaker at Man U?

[Kilcline]

7 minutes ago, TRon said:

Did RVN get hired on the back of a 4 game winning run as caretaker at Man U?

Pretty much 

[TRon]

6 minutes ago, Kilcline said:

Pretty much 

 

Not really a lot in the way of managerial pedigree is it.  

[Skeletor]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

Not really a lot in the way of managerial pedigree is it.  

 

A promising career as Bayern Munich's manager next season probably awaits.

[Dr.Spaceman]

19 minutes ago, TRon said:

Did RVN get hired on the back of a 4 game winning run as caretaker at Man U?

 

I thought he did okay at PSV, albeit I'm just looking at results

[Froggy]

On 07/04/2025 at 20:43, TRon said:

Did RVN get hired on the back of a 4 game winning run as caretaker at Man U?

 

3 wins and a draw, but 2 of the wins were against Leicester.  

[CallumG6]

Wonder if they'll bin RVN as soon as relegation is confirmed.

 

I seriously doubt Steve Cooper would have done this bad a job. 

[54]

23 minutes ago, CallumG6 said:

Wonder if they'll bin RVN as soon as relegation is confirmed.

 

I seriously doubt Steve Cooper would have done this bad a job. 

When Cooper was sacked, they where 16th with 10 points from 12 games. Since then Leicester have only collected 7 points from 19 games.

[Geogaddi]

Cooper is a good manager , they definitely would have made a decent go of staying up but the fans hated him as he had managed Forest so he never stood a chance .