ToonArmy1892 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. No they’re not and no you weren’t but of course it would’ve been better. No one is arguing against that. I’ve still, before or after, never seen a goal celebrated like Lee in that SF. I was on those seats near the front that had no backrest and hardly any slope, i saw hardly any of the game as everyone was obviously standing and i was 9 and short, i somehow managed to see Lee's goal though (random big Geordie next to me lifted me up so i could see some of the game). Was with me mam who couldn't lift me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. I feel like we're basically in total agreement and I dunno what we're even wittering about, and then you write the bit in bold and it's like you're missing the point all over again. Winning a trophy would be class and it's what we're all striving for. But there's a couple other fundamental boxes that my club needs to tick in order to get my support before 'wins trophies'. Such is the case for fans of roughly 98% of teams in the football league. Aye i shouldn't have wrote the last bit, i just get a bit daft sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Back to KK, when he went to Germany, the mindset there was that winning not losing came first, second and last, trophies yar, das is wonderbar, but vee must alvays defeat zee enemy. Medals are for zee losers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. No they’re not and no you weren’t but of course it would’ve been better. No one is arguing against that. I’ve still, before or after, never seen a goal celebrated like Lee in that SF. I was on those seats near the front that had no backrest and hardly any slope, i saw hardly any of the game as everyone was obviously standing and i was 9 and short, i somehow managed to see Lee's goal though (random big Geordie next to me lifted me up so i could see some of the game). Would you swap that experience for the thrill of finishing 5th under Pardew, though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. No they’re not and no you weren’t but of course it would’ve been better. No one is arguing against that. I’ve still, before or after, never seen a goal celebrated like Lee in that SF. I was on those seats near the front that had no backrest and hardly any slope, i saw hardly any of the game as everyone was obviously standing and i was 9 and short, i somehow managed to see Lee's goal though (random big Geordie next to me lifted me up so i could see some of the game). Would you swap that experience for the thrill of finishing 5th under Pardew, though? No because neither equaled winning anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. No they’re not and no you weren’t but of course it would’ve been better. No one is arguing against that. I’ve still, before or after, never seen a goal celebrated like Lee in that SF. I was on those seats near the front that had no backrest and hardly any slope, i saw hardly any of the game as everyone was obviously standing and i was 9 and short, i somehow managed to see Lee's goal though (random big Geordie next to me lifted me up so i could see some of the game). Was with me mam who couldn't lift me. Likewise, Wembley was and still is absolutely gash. The bloke next me I didn’t see for 15 minutes after as he got carried forward and came back cut to fuck. On the flip side the bloke infront slept through the whole game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. No they’re not and no you weren’t but of course it would’ve been better. No one is arguing against that. I’ve still, before or after, never seen a goal celebrated like Lee in that SF. I was on those seats near the front that had no backrest and hardly any slope, i saw hardly any of the game as everyone was obviously standing and i was 9 and short, i somehow managed to see Lee's goal though (random big Geordie next to me lifted me up so i could see some of the game). Would you swap that experience for the thrill of finishing 5th under Pardew, though? No because neither equaled winning anything So you’re left empty, only a trophy will fill that black hole? Hello darkness my old friend... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. No they’re not and no you weren’t but of course it would’ve been better. No one is arguing against that. I’ve still, before or after, never seen a goal celebrated like Lee in that SF. I was on those seats near the front that had no backrest and hardly any slope, i saw hardly any of the game as everyone was obviously standing and i was 9 and short, i somehow managed to see Lee's goal though (random big Geordie next to me lifted me up so i could see some of the game). Would you swap that experience for the thrill of finishing 5th under Pardew, though? No because neither equaled winning anything So you’re left empty, only a trophy will fill that black hole? Hello darkness my old friend... It would f***ing help like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Crikey, talk about losers mentality. That's a bloody brainless comment, like. It's got absolutely nothing to do with either a winning or a losing mentality. Back when the club existed as an outright sporting institution - as opposed to whatever you would define it as now - a cup win would have been unbelievable. One of the best things ever, without a shadow of a doubt. I'm sure there isn't a single person here who wouldn't agree. It's never been about winning trophies though. We've not won one for 50 years ffs; even my dad can barely remember it. Like the vast, vast majority of supporters in this country - you don't support your team because they win things. At this point, the concept is alien to us. Of course, you go into every game and tournament hoping you win; but the most important thing is the sense of identity and belonging - your club is a reflection of you as an individual. You don't need trophies for that. You need a football club that tries to be the best football club it can be. If it does that, and does well, defying expectations - hosanna. If it does badly, so be it, we can all be f***ing gutted and raging together. There's been times in the past when we've been a bag of absolute s**** and the club has really hurt me. But I've still been proud to call myself a Newcastle supporter. It's why anyone that knows me well enough talks about Newcastle before they talk about anything else (which is annoying these days). Trophies would just be a wonderful add-on. No, sorry i'm not having that. I want to see NUFC lift silverware and the reason i've stopped going is because as it is we are a club that isn't trying to compete for it. It IS about winning, at least trying to win things, it's not a kickabout with mates at the park. I want my club to COMPETE. You are taking the piss mate. But fair play as a mackem you have done well to get past most people's radars on here. Now fuck off back to the third division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. Eh? No one is a Newcastle fan if it’s about trophies. You enjoy the good times when they come and if a trophy is added, even better. If one doesn’t come, does it dismiss those good times? Absolutely not. Yorker’s post is spot on. KK didn’t choose to fall at the final hurdle unfortunately it happened but f*** me, implying he failed is beyond the pail. Of course it doesn't dismiss those good times, i enjoyed the Bobby era, but it f***ing hurt to not win the Uefa Cup or FA Cup, how much better would it have been if we DID win something is all i'm saying. Some people are going on like winning is for losers. No they’re not and no you weren’t but of course it would’ve been better. No one is arguing against that. I’ve still, before or after, never seen a goal celebrated like Lee in that SF. I was on those seats near the front that had no backrest and hardly any slope, i saw hardly any of the game as everyone was obviously standing and i was 9 and short, i somehow managed to see Lee's goal though (random big Geordie next to me lifted me up so i could see some of the game). Would you swap that experience for the thrill of finishing 5th under Pardew, though? No because neither equaled winning anything So you’re left empty, only a trophy will fill that black hole? Hello darkness my old friend... It would f***ing help like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Because I’ve been forced to watch us beat Spurs 7-1 I’d forgotten how Sol Campbell inspired Ledley King to always have an absolute shitter against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Half the football league has won a trophy since we did, it’s fucking embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Shock as Newcastle fans love most successful manager of the last 50 years. Nowt to do with that, i love Keegan, but to say it isn't about winning trophies is ridiculous. That’s not what you’re saying though. You seem to be saying you’d swap those 4 years of finishing top 6, and the Robson years, for say, what Wigan or Birmingham did the last 10 years. Bollocks man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Looking at West Ham's fixtures, it wouldn't surprise me if Pellegrini is the next manager to be sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Looking at West Ham's fixtures, it wouldn't surprise me if Pellegrini is the next manager to be sacked. Definitely. Arsenal have good fixtures so Emery should last a bit longer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Looking at West Ham's fixtures, it wouldn't surprise me if Pellegrini is the next manager to be sacked. Rafa nailed on I reckon which would be sickening Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I can see Rafa there before the year is over like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Rafa inevitably getting booed by the Donnay Army. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Rafa inevitably getting booed by the Donnay Army. Would never happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Throw Rafa at the west ham dartboard enough times and it might hit once Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Not sure why everyone assumes Rafa to West Ham will happen. He sounds dead excited about this project in China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Rafa up the Arse ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Rafa up the Arse ? Literally logged onto the forum to suggest the same Emery is on borrowed time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 No idea how Marco Silva is still at Everton - there's always been this weird hype around him. Losing at home to Norwich, their next five are Leicester (a), Liverpool (a), Chelsea (H), Man Utd (a), Arsenal (H). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 If Rafa is really earning $12m(?) a year whoever goes for him will have to pay a hefty old chunk to get him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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