Abacus Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, vicente_14 said: I thought that they had binned Dyche as an acceptance that they are all but relegated and want to start planning for next season without him. They want to head in a different direction and play a different way so are giving whoever comes in the chance to assess ahead of a potential rebuild. That approach would make sense. But here's a bit from that article which suggests it's not their thinking at all. (Obviously, I don't know if the Athletic are right or how good their sources are. But they're generally not bad.) "The understanding, though, is that the decision to remove Dyche was because of underperformance and by Friday, it felt like the only option left in their battle for survival. It is understood that any appointment made will not be with relegation in mind and the club is determined to keep fighting. Dyche would have remained in charge if they were resigned to playing in the Championship next season." So, already, that reads to me like a firefighting appointment rather than one to introduce a new style. You wouldn't introduce a new style with an interim appointment anyway. And the bit about keeping Dyche if they'd accepted the Championship next season suggests they haven't accepted that. Which sounds like muddled thinking when they still have / had a real fighting chance of staying up at Everton's expense given their fixtures. Also, here's the Athletic on the idea of appointing an interim; "The two-step plan discussed means Burnley will get to the end of the season before re-evaluating and exploring their options. However, should they find the right long-term candidate immediately, then that plan might change." Which sounds very much to me like they don't really know what they are doing. Maybe I'm reading it wrongly, but it's got a bit of a Venky's vibe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Personally think something must have happened behind the scenes with Dyche to cause the sacking. He's probably there greatest manager, and had been there for a decade, changed the culture of the club, got them to Europe, and to being a Premier League mainstay. To them sack him the day before a game with a short statement, and nothing else, no goodbye message, no thank you, not even a social media montage, literally just a a 2 paragraph statement. Nothing that would allow a fan to express how much he means to them. It's all very odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papavasiliou Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, 54 said: Personally think something must have happened behind the scenes with Dyche to cause the sacking. He's probably there greatest manager, and had been there for a decade, changed the culture of the club, got them to Europe, and to being a Premier League mainstay. To them sack him the day before a game with a short statement, and nothing else, no goodbye message, no thank you, not even a social media montage, literally just a a 2 paragraph statement. Nothing that would allow a fan to express how much he means to them. It's all very odd. Exactly this. If you're sacking him you do it straight after or the day after the last game, you don't wait a week and do it on the eve of the next game. And if that game was a final straw thing you'd at least get things moving on looking for a replacement. There's definitely been an argument or something and the owners have made a bit of a rash decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, Froggy said: He absolutely will get the time. He'll get a minimum of two years just to show things are going in the right direction never mind challenge. He'll get the time as long as he's sitting in the top 4 come 6 month review time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, 54 said: Personally think something must have happened behind the scenes with Dyche to cause the sacking. He's probably there greatest manager, and had been there for a decade, changed the culture of the club, got them to Europe, and to being a Premier League mainstay. To them sack him the day before a game with a short statement, and nothing else, no goodbye message, no thank you, not even a social media montage, literally just a a 2 paragraph statement. Nothing that would allow a fan to express how much he means to them. It's all very odd. Did I read on here or somewhere else that there was supposedly an incident involving him, Duncan Ferguson and a bouncer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 I think Ten Hag is their best appointment since Fergie and he's come in now at a decent time, they've tried the really big names (Mourinho, Van Gal) and the local hero (Solskjaer) and it hasn't worked out Ten Hag is a quality coach and I think given time he will improve them, the only question mark is how patient will the club be with hi? If he doesn't get top 4 in his first season they need to still give him time, Liverpool finished 8th in Klopps first season and there was no danger of him being sacked. I do hope I'm wrong and that it falls apart because well it would be funny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 He will flop big time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Bet Steve McClaren cannot believe his life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Who gives a fuck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Backing Man Utd to finish bottom half next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 he's going to fail big time, and I can't fucking wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Fair enough on the McClaren move tbh. Not saying it'll be a guaranteed success but it's never been his coaching ability in question. Smacks a bit of trying to recapture the glory days with an ex Ferguson sidekick but might help to have a link to the past that isn't so brazenly desperate like the OGS move was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Still hope it goes tits up ofc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Aye, Ajax are one of the few clubs that can actually claim to have 'DNA' or 'The "clubname here" Way". They'll trust coaches and managers as long as they can see they're trying to play that style (and will remove those that do not or will not implement it). With each passing season Man U are doing a great job of increasing the legacy of Alex Ferguson - that last title win really was his greatest achievement. I don't think any manager will be able to come in and fix Man U, as the club is nothing more than a commercial entity and anything less than trophies and finals will be failure. Even then they've had managers that won trophies and finals and they were still sacked because the fans pissed and moaned. So, good luck dealing with that deluded toxic mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 43 minutes ago, ManDoon said: I’m saying that if man United are 8th next season he’s getting the sack Zero chance. He will get his time to rebuild. He won't be sacked next season unless we're in a relegation fight, which obviously won't be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, OCK said: Even then they've had managers that won trophies and finals and they were still sacked because the fans pissed and moaned. Manager. Not managers. Mourinho was the only manager fans wanted out. The vast majority thought it was a joke LVG was sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, HTT II said: He will flop big time! Considering the gut feeling you had with Bruno, he’ll be a SAF-level legend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Froggy said: Zero chance. He will get his time to rebuild. He won't be sacked next season unless we're in a relegation fight, which obviously won't be the case. People may think they are prepared to give him time now, but come January/February next year if Man Utd are not playing well and sitting bottom half of the table I guarantee the vast majority will be singing a different tune. He will have to have some level of success to keep his job even while rebuilding the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Froggy said: Manager. Not managers. Mourinho was the only manager fans wanted out. The vast majority thought it was a joke LVG was sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Just now, OCK said: I could pay someone to fly a banner right now that says "OCK is a cunt." It wouldn't speak for everybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Aww diddums, you've had a shocker this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Froggy said: Manager. Not managers. Mourinho was the only manager fans wanted out. The vast majority thought it was a joke LVG was sacked. Saw plenty of Man Utd fans leaning in on LVG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, ManDoon said: Yeah that’s it, it’s easy to say now, not so much when fans are kicking off and they are looking poor We gave Ole three years. Opposition fans thought we'd sack him in 2019. We're definitely going to commit to this rebuild. I'm more excited about the outgoings than potential signings in the summer. fucking can't wait to see Pogba leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 He will be under pressure if Man United piss 200mil up the wall and aren’t pushing for the champions league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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