Beren Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew doesn't believe in anything he does. How on earth can the players be expected to. Goes on all week about the 4-3-3 etc. and then changes everything in 20 mins. The players have no chance under this guy. This is very true. He is the definition of spineless, with no conviction in anything he does, or any faith in his players. If he stumbles on to something, and it works, he'll keep doing it until it doesn't work and then he'll change to something else. So aimless and rudderless. No professional pride or integrity. There are no redeeming qualities about him, really. I know that in decades to come, I'm going to hate talking about this generation of football because people will slag off the likes of Sissoko, HBA and probably others too -and each performance and the reaction to these players after every performance is like propaganda before my very eyes - "HBA is overrated" etc., as though quality players are like wind-up toys that you can wind-up and drop into any position on the pitch in any function and expect them to drive forward at breakneck speed, operating in isolation from what's around them. Ungodly infuriating. I'd rather we had no talented players than watch them under Pardew sometimes, I really do. We concede today and just panic, trying long shot after long shot. Individuals taking on too much by themselves getting crowded out, getting kicked and hacked by the neanderthal mackems. So fucking brainless. There's no point thinking about which individuals we can sign in the summer, what personnel we should deploy from game to game etc because it honestly won't matter if Pardew is at the helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/VIseCZw.png Ok, I lol'd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Cattermole will never have an easier game. We used to bully him out of these games but now he runs them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew doesn't believe in anything he does. How on earth can the players be expected to. Goes on all week about the 4-3-3 etc. and then changes everything in 20 mins. The players have no chance under this guy. This is very true. He is the definition of spineless, with no conviction in anything he does, or any faith in his players. If he stumbles on to something, and it works, he'll keep doing it until it doesn't work and then he'll change to something else. So aimless and rudderless. No professional pride or integrity. There are no redeeming qualities about him, really. I know that in decades to come, I'm going to hate talking about this generation of football because people will slag off the likes of Sissoko, HBA and probably others too -and each performance and the reaction to these players after every performance is like propaganda before my very eyes - "HBA is overrated" etc., as though quality players are like wind-up toys that you can wind-up and drop into any position on the pitch in any function and expect them to drive forward at breakneck speed, operating in isolation from what's around them. Ungodly infuriating. I'd rather we had no talented players than watch them under Pardew sometimes, I really do. We concede today and just panic, trying long shot after long shot. Individuals taking on too much by themselves getting crowded out, getting kicked and hacked by the neanderthal mackems. So fucking brainless. There's no point thinking about which individuals we can sign in the summer, what personnel we should deploy from game to game etc because it honestly won't matter if Pardew is at the helm. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 To be fair to dummet he is not a fucking cb and shouldn't be playing there. Certainly not a premier league cb. Pardew Absolutely fed him to the wolves today and should have protected him more by putting santon in the middle, who at least has first team experience there and could take the flack from a bad performance. He has risked potentially ruining a promising player today. He has shown numerous times that he knows absolutely nothing about bringing youngsters into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Krul 4 Debuchy 6 Dummet 4 Williamson 5 Santon 6 HBA 5 Sissoko 5 Cabaye 6 Tiote 5 Gouffran 5 Remy 4 Cisse 2 Shola 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 To be fair to dummet he is not a f***ing cb and shouldn't be playing there. Certainly not a premier league cb. Pardew Absolutely fed him to the wolves today and should have protected him more by putting santon in the middle, who at least has first team experience there and could take the flack from a bad performance. He has risked potentially ruining a promising player today. Not sure if Santon playing CB is a good idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew doesn't believe in anything he does. How on earth can the players be expected to. Goes on all week about the 4-3-3 etc. and then changes everything in 20 mins. The players have no chance under this guy. This is very true. He is the definition of spineless, with no conviction in anything he does, or any faith in his players. If he stumbles on to something, and it works, he'll keep doing it until it doesn't work and then he'll change to something else. So aimless and rudderless. No professional pride or integrity. There are no redeeming qualities about him, really. I know that in decades to come, I'm going to hate talking about this generation of football because people will slag off the likes of Sissoko, HBA and probably others too -and each performance and the reaction to these players after every performance is like propaganda before my very eyes - "HBA is overrated" etc., as though quality players are like wind-up toys that you can wind-up and drop into any position on the pitch in any function and expect them to drive forward at breakneck speed, operating in isolation from what's around them. Ungodly infuriating. I'd rather we had no talented players than watch them under Pardew sometimes, I really do. We concede today and just panic, trying long shot after long shot. Individuals taking on too much by themselves getting crowded out, getting kicked and hacked by the neanderthal mackems. So fucking brainless. There's no point thinking about which individuals we can sign in the summer, what personnel we should deploy from game to game etc because it honestly won't matter if Pardew is at the helm. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 To be forced to play Dummett/Williamson as a CB partnership in a match like this... Occasion was too big for Dummett, hopefully it provides a huge learning platform but it could very easily stunt his budding confidence. Hope he's managed well. Genuinely baffled by what the tactics even were when we had the ball. He must have told them something, but what? "Give it to Cabaye or Ben Arfa then DO NOT MOVE WITHOUT THE BALL! Let them have a go from 30 yards. Should work well." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew doesn't believe in anything he does. How on earth can the players be expected to. Goes on all week about the 4-3-3 etc. and then changes everything in 20 mins. The players have no chance under this guy. This is very true. He is the definition of spineless, with no conviction in anything he does, or any faith in his players. If he stumbles on to something, and it works, he'll keep doing it until it doesn't work and then he'll change to something else. So aimless and rudderless. No professional pride or integrity. There are no redeeming qualities about him, really. I know that in decades to come, I'm going to hate talking about this generation of football because people will slag off the likes of Sissoko, HBA and probably others too -and each performance and the reaction to these players after every performance is like propaganda before my very eyes - "HBA is overrated" etc., as though quality players are like wind-up toys that you can wind-up and drop into any position on the pitch in any function and expect them to drive forward at breakneck speed, operating in isolation from what's around them. Ungodly infuriating. I'd rather we had no talented players than watch them under Pardew sometimes, I really do. We concede today and just panic, trying long shot after long shot. Individuals taking on too much by themselves getting crowded out, getting kicked and hacked by the neanderthal mackems. So f***ing brainless. There's no point thinking about which individuals we can sign in the summer, what personnel we should deploy from game to game etc because it honestly won't matter if Pardew is at the helm. If only our football was as good as this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest H09 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 This group of players and this manager have embarrassed us once again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I've never disliked a squad of our players more than this lot. I can't agree.. I think you would have a completely different opinion if we had someone worthy of snagging this club coaching the players. A better manager would change our players in a matter of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Aside from the goal, our best effort from inside the box was by O'Shea. We had a lot of possession second half, but we did nothing with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As if we didn't buy a fucking centre-back, man. I mean, sure, had we not been shit-scared and not invited them onto us - Willo/Dummett mightn't have been as precarious a option. But you can't go into any Premier League game with that pairing. A left-back from the academy and a very poor defender. Terrible situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Krul - 6 Shakey moment otherwise ok Debuchy - 6 good goal but don't think he stopped enough crosses Willo - 6 poor start but got better Dummet - 5 Not a premier league quality CB nor would expect to be Santon - 6 Terrible passing start of game, improved and carried threat later Tiote - 7 Like Liverpool much improved in some ways, and also to blame in run up to goal 2. Cabaye - 5 Got a yellow too quickly, didn't impose himself in middle as he normally does Gouffran - 2 barely featured Sissoko - 4 nothing worthwhile Ben Arfa - 2 Uterly useless throughout Remy - 2 Carried no threat Cisse - 0 Absolutely no influence on the game Shola - 5 Tried, bullied their defence a bit Sammy - n/a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The worst part is that I'm not even angry. A few years ago I'd be shaking with rage, but now it's all a apathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew better not make any excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybiotics Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As if we didn't buy a f***ing centre-back, man. I mean, sure, had we not been s***-scared and not invited them onto us - Willo/Dummett mightn't have been as precarious a option. But you can't go into any Premier League game with that pairing. A left-back from the academy and a very poor defender. Terrible situation. This problem, and problems we face later in the season can all be traced back to the summer of 2013. Why the hell did we think we didn't urgently need new players!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The worst part is that I'm not even angry. A few years ago I'd be shaking with rage, but now it's all a apathy. Aye and it feels so wrong but this is just what Ashley has done, whacked the passion out of us. Apathy is just how he makes you feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew better not make any excuses. Of course he will and some will swallow them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Dont worry guys, only Man City, Chelsea and Spurs up next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 where was our will to avenge the 3-0? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Tiote was our best player by far. Where's Anita gone btw? Should be playing ahead of Sissoko who's been shit pretty much since the day he signed bar three games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 2 - Sunderland have won consecutive league games against Newcastle for the first time since March 1967. Swinging. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Feel proper sorry for Dummett, like. Lad will be crushed by what happened out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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