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0-6.

 

4 by half time and so they show some degree of mercy second half.

 

After yesterday can't see anything but a mauling. You never know with this bunch of Jekyll and Hyde cowards though.

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                              Cisse

 

Marveaux                  Elliot                Shola

 

        Bairn from the U8's      Sameobi

 

Krul            Pie seller          Anita        Beardsley

 

                            Dummett

 

Cabaye to come on for Dummett after 3 minutes and a couple of lucky disabled kids from the crowd on in the 74th for two players to be chosen by bare knuckle boxing in the centre circle.

 

7-0 to us.

 

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Man City couldn't have picked a better team to play against. A club that actively doesn't want to be in the cups, managed by an idiot, coming off the back of a derby defeat. I imagine Ashley will be pleased the the draw as well.

 

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I want us to lose this game AND the next 2 so that Ashley gets his smug nose rubbed into the dirt when the realization that another relegation battling season beckons, but surprisingly, I reckon we could  end up edging this....City have much bigger fish to fry and if they play a team largely made up of reserves, I reckon Pardew and his self-satisfied players could see this as an opportunity to take the heat off their respective backs because there is no doubt that a win over City would once again have the mass myopics singing Pardew's name once again and vowing to the players that they will ' support you evermore..'

If this were to happen, Pardew will be safe until Christmas.......the players have him where they want him so they will be quite happy not to have someone new coming in and either kicking their butts or getting them to work harder and more productively.

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I want us to lose this game AND the next 2 so that Ashley gets his smug nose rubbed into the dirt when the realization that another relegation battling season beckons, but surprisingly, I reckon we could  end up edging this....City have much bigger fish to fry and if they play a team largely made up of reserves, I reckon Pardew and his self-satisfied players could see this as an opportunity to take the heat off their respective backs because there is no doubt that a win over City would once again have the mass myopics singing Pardew's name once again and vowing to the players that they will ' support you evermore..'

If this were to happen, Pardew will be safe until Christmas.......the players have him where they want him so they will be quite happy not to have someone new coming in and either kicking their butts or getting them to work harder and more productively.

 

I will never understand this opinion, under any circumstances.

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Let's be honest we are gonna get raped. Pardew will play the weaker team, expect Cisse to start though, with Sammy on the left and Dummett at left back. There isn't a chance he will go full strength with Chelsea coming up on Sat.

 

I would happily take progressing in this cup and a defeat on Sat.

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I want us to lose this game AND the next 2 so that Ashley gets his smug nose rubbed into the dirt

 

Dropping out of the league cup will have zero effect on Ashley. He doesn't want us competing for the cups in the first place.

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http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/neil-cameron-alan-pardew-needs-6248315?

 

Neil Cameron: Pardew needs to play his best team against Manchester City

28 Oct 2013 11:58

 

It was an afternoon that left us with many questions and if you work for this newspaper they weren't getting answered

 

But one thing came out of the defeat. One thing we do know to be absolutely true.

 

And that’s Alan Pardew must play his strongest team against Manchester City on Wednesday in their Capital Cup match.

 

Not a strong team or an experienced team. His very best team. It’s not a chance to blood some kids. Gabriel Obertan cannot be allowed anywhere near the pitch.

 

That is the very least Newcastle United supporters deserve after yesterday when they watched with bewildered agony as a “gutless” Sunderland side, with just one point from eight games before this Wear-Tyne derby, beat them at the Stadium of Light.

 

The home side edged it and that’s the truth. The visiting fans looked utterly sick by the end of it all. You couldn’t blame them.

 

If Pardew resorts to type when it comes to the League Cup and rests his bigger names for the visit of City, whose third team is worth roughly £100m, then they will be put out of the only competition that have a realistic chance of winning.

 

On the back of a derby defeat, that will be too much to take for some.

 

Those who don’t like Pardew really don’t like him, no matter what the man does. Those who can’t make up their minds will have a far stronger negative opinion now. Those who still back him are running out of patience.

 

This isn’t an opinion, by the way. It’s fact. He could do with some friends right now.

 

So, Alan, take some friendly advice. Go with your strongest XI on Wednesday night. Who cares if they are tired or have a knock. This last-16 cup tie has all of a sudden become massively important. A win would do you a power of good.

 

If Newcastle can get themselves into the giddy heights of a quarter-final place, some time will be bought, if not a lot. If Pardew goes into the game and doesn’t go for it, and with Chelsea and Tottenham next up in the Premier League, he puts himself under more pressure.

 

Make no mistake, these are testing times for Newcastle’s manager.

 

Joe Harvey was the last man who occupied that high office to lose successive derbies.

 

You have to go back to Bill McGarry to find the last Newcastle manager to lose two derbies full stop, in 1979 and 1980.

 

Pardew thought his team deserved to win yesterday. He was something of a lone voice there.

 

They might, and it’s a slim might, have done enough to earn a draw. But that’s straw-clutching. Newcastle started appallingly, went a goal down, and then without doing all that much, got themselves level and then allowed Sunderland back into it.

 

Oh sure, there were moments such as Shola Ameobi’s shot that for all the world looked like it was going in, and quick reactions from Keiren Westwood stopped a late equaliser.

 

But these are typical derby moments. They were fairly irrelevant. It’s not as if the Sunderland keeper had a worldy or there were penalty shouts or goals wrong chopped off. There were a few half-chances. That was it.

 

Newcastle are a better team than Sunderland. It might seem a bit daft to say that after yesterday, but I genuinely believe this.

 

Hard work only beats talent when the talent doesn’t work hard. That’s happened in this derby twice in the space of six months. Too many players in black and white fell short yesterday. Way short.

 

Newcastle turned in a strangely disjointed performance at the Stadium of Light. All those derby clichés of winning battles, running hard, facing up to the opposition, well they happen to be true.

 

Sunderland seemed to get that message. Those in black and white waited until after half-time before really showing up. Moussa Sissoko was an empty jersey and was subbed at half-time. Yohan Cabaye did little right and Hatem Ben Arfa was appalling for 45 minutes, woke up, set up the equaliser, then disappeared.

 

Loic Remy chased lost causes and Papiss Cisse, when he came on, looked a two yards off the pace.

 

Cheick Tiote can look himself in the mirror. He put in a shift, passed the ball and tried to get his team-mates going. They weren’t listening.

 

Here’s the thing. At 1-1, you felt United would go on and win it. Sunderland were tired and hadn’t really threatened in the second-half. Where was a goal going to come for them? To be fair, Fabio Borini answered that with a superb strike.

 

Overall, Sunderland were more hungry and that tends to win these games.

 

United never really got a proper foothold even if for periods they were on top.

 

Ben Arfa had one of those games that has you tearing clumps out of your hair.

 

And yet it was his cross-cum-shot that allowed Mathieu Debuchy to creep past Adam Johnson at the back postand score an equaliser that Newcastle fans probably didn’t see coming.

 

That should have been the signal for Newcastle to go for broke. Oddly, and it was a strange game all in, Sunderland got back into things when they had been really off the pace.

 

The next goal was always going to be the winner. Sunderland scored it. The victors weren’t even that brilliant themselves.

 

Wednesday is another game and a chance to put some things right.

 

And Newcastle now have some making-up to do with their supporters.

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The last cup game i'm going to under Ashley. If they don't care, why should I?

 

Shame i've already bought my ticket.

 

I understand you being frustrated about our lack of ambition to win cups, as long as you understand that almost every club treats the cups exactly the same way we do. It's a problem with football, not NUFC.

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