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I flicked on to Football Focus (or some shite like that) really briefly this morning, and Pardew was on.

 

I saw at most 45 seconds of it, but from what I saw, he was basically saying "Not only are we doing very well, but look, that Southampton side is practically mine, too".

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Wtf? I don't understand that.  Just sayin that hoof ball = fuck all possession. No agenda.

 

:lol: He was quoting Pardew on MOTD.

 

Not sure I understood your post anyway, I'd have thought possession stats were in fact based on time held on to the ball (not including the time it takes to take free kicks, throw ins, etc).  Wouldn't make much sense if it's simply a count of passes made.

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Oh, sorry... I don't get to see MOTD in the US. 

 

Well do you think somebody ITK can confirm it, either way? Number of passes vs. time on the ball = tv possession % stat?

 

maybe this is just a stupid football question...

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Oh, sorry... I don't get to see MOTD in the US. 

 

Well do you think somebody ITK can confirm it, either way? Number of passes vs. time on the ball = tv possession % stat?

 

maybe this is just a stupid football question...

 

"Possession" represents that percentage of time in possession of the ball. Passes are represented by the "passes" stat.

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The thing that baffled me was bringing Cisse on and then repeatedly hoofing it towards him even though it was obvious he wasn't going to win a header

 

 

 

As if this hasn't been plan A for the majority of the past 2 years xD

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And I watched the whole game today in real time on NBCsn terrestrial TV... &  I thought it was pretty even, first half, they maybe even shaded it second half.

 

maybe you guys are quoting stats from another channel, but surely somebody isn't standing there with a stopwatch.

 

just didn't seem like they had 50% more possession (time) than us, first half (60:40), nowhere near.

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Ok, so somebody in the press box just calls the office with a guesswork number... Yay for Arlo White and Graeme le Sauxthampton (lucky us).

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:lol: If you scroll by the entire article and base your opinion on one of the 2 comments, aye.

 

Fuck knas, I don't think basing it on passes makes any more sense to be honest - you could have Ben Arfa running with the ball for 10 seconds at one point in the match and the Southampton team tapping it around their defence for 10 seconds at another and this would completely distort the stats in Southampton's favour.  The debate lies more with what you define as time in possession, there are a lot of scrappy passages of play where it's difficult to define who is really in possession of the ball and also other times when the ball is flying aimlessly through the air.  For stoppages and time it takes to deliver a set piece it makes sense to stop the clock entirely until the ball is kicked again.

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Yeah, I get it... I need to stop asking daft questions in case I get a sensible answer. Just seems like these stats are mostly made up and broadcast as Gospel, yet nobody even knows the logic behind it, for certain.

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I really hate the bloke, but I have no real qualms with him about yesterday.

 

I'm pissed off that we didn't win, when we clearly should have, but I put that more down to Santon and Remy tbh.

 

We hoofed it, which I hate, but it did feel like it was working to me. When we do it and it clearly isn't working and it's the only thing we do is when I'll be pissed off with it again.

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