Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing I find more unbelievable than him being sacked is people who think Ashley gives a flying f*** about these results. He's done exactly what's asked of him, no threat of relegation, cash in on best player, sign nobody, steer well clear of Europe, lower expectations and belittle the club. All according to the club's current behavioural blueprint. I think he cares a little, but only because it doesn't bode well for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing I find more unbelievable than him being sacked is people who think Ashley gives a flying f*** about these results. He's done exactly what's asked of him, no threat of relegation, cash in on best player, sign nobody, steer well clear of Europe, lower expectations and belittle the club. All according to the club's current behavioural blueprint. I think Ashley probably does care more about our results than most give him credit for. At the end of the day, our transfer policy revolves around the premise of buying players on the cheap and selling them on for a profit. You can't generate interest let alone profitable offers in our players if they're all performing shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing I find more unbelievable than him being sacked is people who think Ashley gives a flying f*** about these results. He's done exactly what's asked of him, no threat of relegation, cash in on best player, sign nobody, steer well clear of Europe, lower expectations and belittle the club. All according to the club's current behavioural blueprint. I think Ashley probably does care more about our results than most give him credit for. At the end of the day, our transfer policy revolves around the premise of buying players on the cheap and selling them on for a profit. You can't generate interest let alone profitable offers in our players if they're all performing s****. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing I find more unbelievable than him being sacked is people who think Ashley gives a flying f*** about these results. He's done exactly what's asked of him, no threat of relegation, cash in on best player, sign nobody, steer well clear of Europe, lower expectations and belittle the club. All according to the club's current behavioural blueprint. I think Ashley probably does care more about our results than most give him credit for. At the end of the day, our transfer policy revolves around the premise of buying players on the cheap and selling them on for a profit. You can't generate interest let alone profitable offers in our players if they're all performing shite. Exactly the point I made this time last year. How many of our players are currently worth the same or more than they were a couple of seasons ago? I can't think of one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 A few are worth more than we paid, but that's not the same question of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Pardew is bluffing, he's trying to play the media and fans by keeping it to one game because he knows he's in the s*** if his record is scrutinised. Clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Either way performances like Saturday reflect really badly on the players. MYM, for example, was fucking awful, but it isn't his fault he's got an excuse for a manager and an excuse for a club captain offering him guidance. Such players won't improve under the current setup, no matter what their potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Agree, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 People still posting in here about no cohesion or style of play You're absolutely right, like, but we're about 3 years past that debate now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing I find more unbelievable than him being sacked is people who think Ashley gives a flying f*** about these results. He's done exactly what's asked of him, no threat of relegation, cash in on best player, sign nobody, steer well clear of Europe, lower expectations and belittle the club. All according to the club's current behavioural blueprint. I think he cares a little, but only because it doesn't bode well for next season. If he didnt care then he wouldnt put himself through the shite served up lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 People still posting in here about no cohesion or style of play You're absolutely right, like, but we're about 3 years past that debate now. come on, be positive. we've plenty of time to get a cohesive sytem/style. how long has pards left on his contract? dont be so knee-jerk. as impossible as it seems, i hope we finish 11th, just so that fucktard doesnt get his bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Interesting to see the stick Sherwood is getting in the media this morning. Why and how does Pardew continue to escape any scrutiny? Is it because Spurs were expected to challenge for top 4, while we were expected to achieve jack all? Really pissing me off now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I find it quite incredible that the team has effectively given up after January. It's just being allowed to happen, like getting to 40 points and 8th half way through the season was some sort of epic achievement and so every one could now coast until the end of the season. They forget the fans are paying an extortionate amount of money to watch the rest of the games this season. Pardew constantly talking about next season and needing new players, despite the fact this is the same group that did well in the first half of the season, bar Cabaye. Fraud of a manager who was talking about 8th being top of the league for us back in January so who can blame the players for losing their motivation. We'll be lucky if we finish above Stoke now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing I find more unbelievable than him being sacked is people who think Ashley gives a flying f*** about these results. He's done exactly what's asked of him, no threat of relegation, cash in on best player, sign nobody, steer well clear of Europe, lower expectations and belittle the club. All according to the club's current behavioural blueprint. I think he cares a little, but only because it doesn't bode well for next season. If he didnt care then he wouldnt put himself through the shite served up lately. That's whats I cant get, If he didn't give a shit why bother sitting through the crap we get served up, Im sure theres better, more enjoyable things he could be doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 The only thing I find more unbelievable than him being sacked is people who think Ashley gives a flying f*** about these results. He's done exactly what's asked of him, no threat of relegation, cash in on best player, sign nobody, steer well clear of Europe, lower expectations and belittle the club. All according to the club's current behavioural blueprint. I think Ashley probably does care more about our results than most give him credit for. At the end of the day, our transfer policy revolves around the premise of buying players on the cheap and selling them on for a profit. You can't generate interest let alone profitable offers in our players if they're all performing s****. Exactly the point I made this time last year. How many of our players are currently worth the same or more than they were a couple of seasons ago? I can't think of one. The one reason would be this, and even if I don't think Ashley thinks like this, there is a chance that he sees his investments in players loose value under Pardew for the second season running and decides do look elsewhere. On the other hand, he's done nothing to convince me of the fact that he cares about results. Had he been worried about Pardew's effects on players (Cissé, Ben Arfa etc.), Pardew would be gone since long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was hoping the infamous Reading game would be the nail in the coffin. I've wanted him out for about 2+ years, when it happens I'll probably just start crying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Interesting to see the stick Sherwood is getting in the media this morning. Why and how does Pardew continue to escape any scrutiny? Is it because Spurs were expected to challenge for top 4, while we were expected to achieve jack all? Really pissing me off now. Expected? We were aiming for 8th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 He's just so magically inept. Like a shite wizard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was hoping the infamous Reading game would be the nail in the coffin. I've wanted him out for about 2+ years, when it happens I'll probably just start crying. I will probably self harm in a good way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Interesting to see the stick Sherwood is getting in the media this morning. Why and how does Pardew continue to escape any scrutiny? Is it because Spurs were expected to challenge for top 4, while we were expected to achieve jack all? Really pissing me off now. Expected? We were aiming for 8th. We didn't blatt milions in the transfer market and the media conside rus in our place. Spurs aren't going to make that champs league postition after spending they have made. Failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Plus the vast majority of the media don't want to see a successful Newcastle United, that seems quite clear by now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was hoping the infamous Reading game would be the nail in the coffin. I've wanted him out for about 2+ years, when it happens I'll probably just start crying. I think the closest he's come to going is HT at Everton. Those 2 goals kept him in a job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 http://www.thejournal.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/southampton-4-newcastle-united-0-6896139 Southampton 4 Newcastle United 0: Mark Douglas' match analysis Mar 31, 2014 10:32 By Mark Douglas At most football clubs, this kind of defeat – at the back end of this kind of run – would prompt a stack of uncomfortable questions and a bout of bruising soul-searching. Not Newcastle United, apparently. “I don’t think it’s changed our opinion,” Alan Pardew said on Saturday after this most wretched of displays. “We’ve had a good positive meeting this week about taking the club forward.” On a day when the only defiance came from away supporters who howled their discontent at the players who had conjured up this performance, Pardew’s certainty that he would be the man entrusted with the massive summer rebuilding was instructive. This is a club that should be asking questions right now – of its players, defintely of its manager but also overall direction. Instead we are left to wonder what it would take for anyone to do that. Even with Mike Ashley again making his presence deliberately felt, Saturday didn’t have the feel of a watershed moment. The sad fact is, days like this are becoming the depressing norm. For while it would be nice to look at this as a one-off – and Pardew suggested afterwards that it was “not us” to play so poorly – the facts just don’t back that up. Collapses have become commonplace in recent weeks: this was the fifth occasion in the last nine games that Newcastle had shipped three or more goals. More than that, this was the 18th time Newcastle have done it while Pardew has been in charge of various different configurations of players. It was also the 10th defeat in 14 games and the 75th consecutive match when Newcastle failed to win after being behind at half-time. These are worrying trends; alarming and possibly damning. Newcastle feel aggreived at the level of criticism of their efforts this season but it would be a dereliction of duty not to look at what lies beneath the league position. Yohan Cabaye and Loic Remy are respectively gone and probably going, so what remains? On the evidence of Saturday, something needs to change. This is a group that lacks leadership on the field, with the number of hammerings since Cabaye left a very real sign that they have mentally checked out. They need new recruits to energise and mobilise them and there will be a massive overhaul in the summer. But a bigger question remains, one which Ashley must decide before signing off the summer cheques. Is Pardew the man to entrust with such a wholesale rebuilding job? Compare and contrast the following: when Newcastle welcomed Southampton to St James’ Park earlier this season they were in the midst of their best run of the campaign. Yet did United ever perform with the same sparkling invention and attacking flourish that Southampton – on a bit of a roll at St Mary’s themselves – did on Saturday? What is his vision for Newcastle? He came to the job talking of constructing an attacking team to entertain United fans but that is not where Newcastle are. Their most inventive player – Hatem Ben Arfa – was hooked at half-time on Saturday after barely getting a kick. The relationship between him and the manager seems almost irreparable. If Ashley delivers attacking players, what will become of them? Pardew says one thing – claiming on Friday that the owner wants an attacking team and that he is determined to give him them – but something else is happening on the pitch. There are no indications yet of Pardew’s grip on the job eroding. His most serious run-in with Ashley this season was not over football matters but over perceived criticism of the owner in a Sky Sports interview after the Cardiff away game, and the headbutt at Hull brought with it an implicit backing for the boss. Perhaps dropping out of the top ten – a danger if this slide isn’t arrested – might change that. At the moment, it seems to be full steam ahead for next season – and that means a whole lot of leaps of faith from Newcastle fans if they want to feel optimistic for the campaign to follow this one. Mind you, it is never entirely clear with Pardew whether he is brazening it out or not. Sorry seemed to be the hardest word on Saturday, conspicuous by its absence in the manager’s post-match briefing and when the players trudged through the mixed zone to offer their own explanations for what happened. Fabricio Coloccini, as culpable as anyone, ducked what is normally a captain’s role and refused to speak. Pardew claims to have no worries about the centre-back – but he is looking less and less like a skipper these days. Pardew couldn’t find the answers afterwards. He spoke of Newcastle needed to rediscover their “process of winning” and curiously claimed that the game was a bigger deal for Southampton because they were motivated by the chance to leapfrog United. It was bizarre reasoning from a man who spent the week talking up how his own presence in the dressing room would add something to the black and white mix. The owner must shoulder his share of the responsibility. Selling Cabaye without a replacement sent a very clear message that this season was effectively over and that has been heard loud and clear by the players, who were atrocious on Saturday. Barring Rob Elliot, none collected credit for their work. By contrast Southampton were sparkling: a team of invention, wit and creation set up imaginatively and allowed to flourish. They had seven clear chances before Jay Rodriguez finally breached Elliot’s resistance. The defending, with Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa a desperate right-back choice, was comical as a simple ball knocked over the top sprung Newcastle’s offside ‘trap’. Southampton rolled in three more: one a cracker from the excellent Adam Lallana. Cheick Tiote and Mike Williamson almost came to blows at one point. It was sorry, sorry stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 And how much his personality shines through now he is back in the changing room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 i have hope that the fact ashley blew 35m (or whatever in his eyes) last january to bail the cunt out and just over a year later all these players are now getting worse by the week and their value plummeting if he's hearing about pardle losing the players and such, carr might be nipping his ear and all something to cling onto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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