Flip Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Can't believe there's actually a possibility we finish the season on 8 straight losses while still finishing top 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pulis has done a tremendous job at Palace, but he'd be so the wrong manager for NUFC. He should stay where he is. This 100x over. He has done a tremendous job lately, no doubt, excellent form. But Pardew has gone on the same type of form. Noway we should bring him in. I'll never forget watching Stoke over these years, playing the ball backwards just so they can lump it forward. Haven't seen his Palace side, but his Stoke side was the definition of He had more money to spend at Stoke than he would get here as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 £80m and quality is still absolutely shit. Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Figures like that for clubs like Stoke & Sunderland get distorted though compared to established Premier League clubs. First they have to spend a big chunk just to try and stay up because they don't have many Premier League players, they don't have that many salable assets just to try and maintain their place, then another load just to try and stay clear of the bottom 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 ours dreams have been answered: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-eye-tony-pulis-replace-3434352 From terry funckwit to Biffa style football in the blink of an eye :jones: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 ours dreams have been answered: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/newcastle-eye-tony-pulis-replace-3434352 From terry funckwit to Biffa style football in the blink of an eye :giggs: :giggs: :giggs: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stoke probably received about £200m in TV money in that time mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Figures like that for clubs like Stoke & Sunderland get distorted though compared to established Premier League clubs. First they have to spend a big chunk just to try and stay up because they don't have many Premier League players, they don't have that many salable assets just to try and maintain their place, then another load just to try and stay clear of the bottom 6. Anyway you slice it though it's a hell of a lot if money to just "survive". They have to though. They have to pay over the odds for players to make them go there. It's not like us where our name and reputation can attract players. Do you think people like Cabaye & Ben Arfa for example, would have contemplated them over us for £9m combined? Not a chance, so they have to pay over the odds to attract people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stoke have made just £16.5m in transfer fees since coming up. We made more than that in January. Goes back to my point that they have no salable assets. I know you could hold Pulis accountable for that, but like I said, they've had to have pretty much 3 waves of transfers just to stand still in the Premier League. They've only spent over £8m three times, a lot of their signings are for £3m-5m just to give them a squad that's able to compete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 It's pretty damning on Pulis that Pardew has pretty much had the measure of him when they've met Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stoke have made just £16.5m in transfer fees since coming up. We made more than that in January. Goes back to my point that they have no salable assets. I know you could hold Pulis accountable for that, but like I said, they've had to have pretty much 3 waves of transfers just to stand still in the Premier League. They've only spent over £8m three times, a lot of their signings are for £3m-5m just to give them a squad that's able to compete. Sorry but for the amount of money they've spent it's absolutely terrible quality and as your post suggest they haven't got any saleable asset because they've bought worthless players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stoke have made just £16.5m in transfer fees since coming up. We made more than that in January. Goes back to my point that they have no salable assets. I know you could hold Pulis accountable for that, but like I said, they've had to have pretty much 3 waves of transfers just to stand still in the Premier League. They've only spent over £8m three times, a lot of their signings are for £3m-5m just to give them a squad that's able to compete. Sorry but for the amount of money they've spent it's absolutely terrible quality and as your post suggest they haven't got any saleable asset because they've bought worthless players. They've bought players to keep them safe. They spend approx £20m a season. What does Pulis do? Spend that budget on 1 or 2 top players and ignore the squad? Apart from Jones & Palacios for £8m each, they get what they pay for in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pardew = Pulis. Would be no upgrade at all, and with no promise even of improved football it would be such a pointless appointment. Can see it happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Stoke have made just £16.5m in transfer fees since coming up. We made more than that in January. Goes back to my point that they have no salable assets. I know you could hold Pulis accountable for that, but like I said, they've had to have pretty much 3 waves of transfers just to stand still in the Premier League. They've only spent over £8m three times, a lot of their signings are for £3m-5m just to give them a squad that's able to compete. Sorry but for the amount of money they've spent it's absolutely terrible quality and as your post suggest they haven't got any saleable asset because they've bought worthless players. They've bought players to keep them safe. They spend approx £20m a season. What does Pulis do? Spend that budget on 1 or 2 top players and ignore the squad? Apart from Jones & Palacios for £8m each, they get what they pay for in general. 4th highest net spend over the past 5 seasons. That's a huge outlay to have not finished in the top 10. You can dress it up anyway you like but it's a lot of money for no return. Other teams stay safe on way less. How many sustain it? Man Utd Man City Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool Everton Spurs Aston Villa Fulham Sunderland I maybe wrong but they're the only teams who have been in the Premier League for longer than Stoke at the minute. One or two of those last three may drop from that list this season too, while the third one aren't much cop themselves. The first 7 speak for themselves, but Villa have a bigger net spend, Sunderland's is similar. Fulham are the exception. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pardew = Pulis. Would be no upgrade at all, and with no promise even of improved football it would be such a pointless appointment. Can see it happening. As garbage as pulis is he's a clear upgrade on Pardew for me. Unlikely to see several players out of position and formations chosen on the merit of we have a lot of centre halfs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pardew = Pulis. Would be no upgrade at all, and with no promise even of improved football it would be such a pointless appointment. Can see it happening. As garbage as pulis is he's a clear upgrade on Pardew for me. Unlikely to see several players out of position and formations chosen on the merit of we have a lot of centre halfs I think that's just because we're more familiar with Pardew's failings - most Stoke fans were delighted to see the back of Pulis too (his approach there to having loads of centre halves was to play all of them too remember?) Pulis has a career win percentage as a manager of 36%. Pardew's is 42%, or just at NUFC 37%. 2 bog standard average managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 None of us have followed Stoke or Crystal Palace long enough to know that. Why the fuck are we shelling out 3 mil for a manager who is barely better than absolute shite when freebies like Laudrup are available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pardew = Pulis. Would be no upgrade at all, and with no promise even of improved football it would be such a pointless appointment. Can see it happening. As garbage as pulis is he's a clear upgrade on Pardew for me. Unlikely to see several players out of position and formations chosen on the merit of we have a lot of centre halfs I think that's just because we're more familiar with Pardew's failings - most Stoke fans were delighted to see the back of Pulis too (his approach there to having loads of centre halves was to play all of them too remember?) Pulis has a career win percentage as a manager of 36%. Pardew's is 42%, or just at NUFC 37%. 2 bog standard average managers. Aye I think I'm desperate to rid us of Pardew tbh. Of course Pulis wouldn't be my choice, I don't think he'd be anyone's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pardew = Pulis. Would be no upgrade at all, and with no promise even of improved football it would be such a pointless appointment. Can see it happening. As garbage as pulis is he's a clear upgrade on Pardew for me. Unlikely to see several players out of position and formations chosen on the merit of we have a lot of centre halfs I think that's just because we're more familiar with Pardew's failings - most Stoke fans were delighted to see the back of Pulis too (his approach there to having loads of centre halves was to play all of them too remember?) Pulis has a career win percentage as a manager of 36%. Pardew's is 42%, or just at NUFC 37%. 2 bog standard average managers. Aye I think I'm desperate to rid us of Pardew tbh. Of course Pulis wouldn't be my choice, I don't think he'd be anyone's. Same for me as well, I hate Pardew and want him gone and unfortunately at the minute we have no chance of getting people like Laudrup etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Pardew = Pulis. Would be no upgrade at all, and with no promise even of improved football it would be such a pointless appointment. Can see it happening. As garbage as pulis is he's a clear upgrade on Pardew for me. Unlikely to see several players out of position and formations chosen on the merit of we have a lot of centre halfs I think that's just because we're more familiar with Pardew's failings - most Stoke fans were delighted to see the back of Pulis too (his approach there to having loads of centre halves was to play all of them too remember?) Pulis has a career win percentage as a manager of 36%. Pardew's is 42%, or just at NUFC 37%. 2 bog standard average managers. Aye I think I'm desperate to rid us of Pardew tbh. Of course Pulis wouldn't be my choice, I don't think he'd be anyone's. Same for me as well, I hate Pardew and want him gone and unfortunately at the minute we have no chance of getting people like Laudrup etc. The most frustrating thing about all of this is if we didn't have a cretin called Ashley in charge the likes of Laudrup would be chomping at the bit to manage us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Hell, there are at least several freebies I'd rather have than Tony fucking Pullis. Di Matteo even, easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If Pardew gets sacked. There's no way we're paying 2 lots of compensation. Our next manager will be currently unemployed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If Pardew gets sacked. There's no way we're paying 2 lots of compensation. Our next manager will be currently unemployed. Step forward Alan Curbishley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 51K mugs at the game I see. Guess who wins again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Can't believe there's actually a possibility we finish the season on 8 straight losses while still finishing top 10. Just goes to show how average the league is in general; most of the teams are pretty rubbish and you don't actually have to be all that amazing to make moves in the top half. That's why terms like 'flat track bully' make me laugh as a criticism of players - that's all you need to be on the most part. Of course the cunts in charge would have you believe that it's impossible to impact the top half without spending a hundred million quid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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