Darth Crooks Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Henry Winter @henrywinter 2m Rodgers: “We put some words of Margaret Aspinall (of Hillsborough Family Support Group) on dressing-room wall, about determination to fight” Pardew is a million miles away from this guy in terms of being able to motivate his team. The corporate/business style letter motivation thing he did was cringey as f***, but apart from that i would agree with you. Didn't know he'd retired at 20 as a player. Our clown and this just goes to show that if you have a half decent playing career that you will know jack buggery all about it as a coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Henry Winter @henrywinter 2m Rodgers: “We put some words of Margaret Aspinall (of Hillsborough Family Support Group) on dressing-room wall, about determination to fight” Pardew is a million miles away from this guy in terms of being able to motivate his team. The corporate/business style letter motivation thing he did was cringey as f***, but apart from that i would agree with you. Didn't know he'd retired at 20 as a player. Our clown and this just goes to show that if you have a half decent playing career that you will know jack buggery all about it as a coach. That's not accurate, there's plenty of brilliant players who have also done well as manager (it's stretching it to say that Pardew's playing career was half decent tbh, in length maybe, nothing else) but what is true though is that there is very little correlation between the two, yet clubs right throughout England still make the mistake of looking at somebody's name and deciding that's enough reason to give someone the manager's job. It's extraordinary really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Arsenal's return to form will figure significantly in Pardle's excuses next week I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Henry Winter @henrywinter 2m Rodgers: “We put some words of Margaret Aspinall (of Hillsborough Family Support Group) on dressing-room wall, about determination to fight” Pardew is a million miles away from this guy in terms of being able to motivate his team. The corporate/business style letter motivation thing he did was cringey as f***, but apart from that i would agree with you. Didn't know he'd retired at 20 as a player. Our clown and this just goes to show that if you have a half decent playing career that you will know jack buggery all about it as a coach. That's not accurate, there's plenty of brilliant players who have also done well as manager (it's stretching it to say that Pardew's playing career was half decent tbh, in length maybe, nothing else) but what is true though is that there is very little correlation between the two, yet clubs right throughout England still make the mistake of looking at somebody's name and deciding that's enough reason to give someone the manager's job. It's extraordinary really. He was shite as a player, famous only for a scrambled Cup Semi winning goal but aside from that he was about as good at playing and managing too as Stevie Wonder would be as a navigator. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Played for English Semi-pros when he was at Dulwich Hamlet, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People are still advocating him for stability reasons. What? I don't...whu...why? There's no stability case now, I've argued it before but it's long enough since we sacked a manager now. When was the cut off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 There is stability tbf. We have a stable, utterly dismal record. 5 losses in a row. Stability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yes poorly worded I suppose; naturally you can have a good career in coaching, just shows up the likes if the jobs for the boys bell helm we have in stark contrast. What's worse is the fraternal nature of it all. Dicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The useless sack of shit still blames Europe for last season and uses Swansea as proof that it effects every team in Europe. We had a 24 points drop off and 11 places, Swansea have had a 10 points drop off and 4 league places with 3 games still to go. Fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 And that's with a change of manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 And that's with a change of manager. He was outdone by a nobody yesterday, not that that's anything of a surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I doubt Mike Ashley will fire Pardew until the Summer (if he decides to fire him at all). If Ashley is worrying about having to pay Pardew off he could just put him on gardening leave. Pardew's contract is supposedly heavily performance weighted. That would presumably mean it would be in Pardew's interest to take a new manager job if it was offered rather than sit collecting his NUFC wage. Pardew “I think it’s important we win one of our last three games to secure a top 10 finish. Teams are chasing us down and that’s the last thing we wanted. A win today would have probably secured it. You have to feel sorry for the NUFC staff who are blameless (the cooks, the grounds keeper, etc.) who won't get their bonus when we slip to 11th in the table. I hope they haven't spent the money already after it looked certain we'd finish in the top 10 back on Boxing Day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Were we amazing in the first half of the season? I can only remember us being gash. Yet we're still top ten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I doubt Mike Ashley will fire Pardew until the Summer (if he decides to fire him at all). If Ashley is worrying about having to pay Pardew off he could just put him on gardening leave. Pardew's contract is supposedly heavily performance weighted. That would presumably mean it would be in Pardew's interest to take a new manager job if it was offered rather than sit collecting his NUFC wage. Pardew “I think it’s important we win one of our last three games to secure a top 10 finish. Teams are chasing us down and that’s the last thing we wanted. A win today would have probably secured it. You have to feel sorry for the NUFC staff who are blameless (the cooks, the grounds keeper, etc.) who won't get their bonus when we slip to 11th in the table. I hope they haven't spent the money already after it looked certain we'd finish in the top 10 back on Boxing Day. They probably get their bonuses in the form of Sports Direct vouchers anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People are still advocating him for stability reasons. What? I don't...whu...why? There's no stability case now, I've argued it before but it's long enough since we sacked a manager now. When was the cut off? I don't know, bit of a strange question. I just think we're no longer a club that sacks managers all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People are still advocating him for stability reasons. What? I don't...whu...why? There's no stability case now, I've argued it before but it's long enough since we sacked a manager now. When was the cut off? I don't know, bit of a strange question. I just think we're no longer a club that sacks managers all the time. It's a bit of a strange thing to say, hence the question. So, are you glad we've laboured over the sacking of a manager that should have gone over a year ago? Have we gained anything by not sacking him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People are still advocating him for stability reasons. What? I don't...whu...why? There's no stability case now, I've argued it before but it's long enough since we sacked a manager now. When was the cut off? I don't know, bit of a strange question. I just think we're no longer a club that sacks managers all the time. It's a bit of a strange thing to say, hence the question. So, are you glad we've laboured over the sacking of a manager that should have gone over a year ago? Have we gained anything by not sacking him? Well my opinion isn't that he should have been sacked over a year ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People are still advocating him for stability reasons. What? I don't...whu...why? There's no stability case now, I've argued it before but it's long enough since we sacked a manager now. When was the cut off? I don't know, bit of a strange question. I just think we're no longer a club that sacks managers all the time. It's a bit of a strange thing to say, hence the question. So, are you glad we've laboured over the sacking of a manager that should have gone over a year ago? Have we gained anything by not sacking him? Well my opinion isn't that he should have been sacked over a year ago. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 People are still advocating him for stability reasons. What? I don't...whu...why? There's no stability case now, I've argued it before but it's long enough since we sacked a manager now. When was the cut off? I don't know, bit of a strange question. I just think we're no longer a club that sacks managers all the time. It's a bit of a strange thing to say, hence the question. So, are you glad we've laboured over the sacking of a manager that should have gone over a year ago? Have we gained anything by not sacking him? Well my opinion isn't that he should have been sacked over a year ago. Why? I thought he'd earned some time after finishing 5th, and shown we could do well under him. Obviously in hindsight we may as well have sacked him, but that's not the same as believing it at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 If you look at his time at other clubs he's had a tendency of starting off well then getting found out and being sacked for doing a shit job. God knows if Reading, West Ham, Charlton and Southampton fans had to put up with his needlessly negative tedium-ball to such a degree, but when it became clear this would be what I was watching more often than not I knew he wasn't for us and wanted him sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He generally gets sacked because he loses the dressing room Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Were we amazing in the first half of the season? I can only remember us being gash. Yet we're still top ten. The league, bar the top seven teams, is utterly dogshit. Anyone from 8th downwards has a chance of being relegated next season. With everyone down there more than capable of beating everyone else and the fringe teams (Everton, Spurs, Man Utd) susceptible to losing against the 13 dogshit teams it means that anyone down there can finish anywhere from 8th-20th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 God knows if Reading, West Ham, Charlton and Southampton fans had to put up with his needlessly negative tedium-ball to such a degree http://intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/1268/shut-leave A thread chosen completely at random. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 God knows if Reading, West Ham, Charlton and Southampton fans had to put up with his needlessly negative tedium-ball to such a degree http://intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/1268/shut-leave A thread chosen completely at random. If/when fans of his next club look on here for what to expect, they'll certainly have some reading material. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 God knows if Reading, West Ham, Charlton and Southampton fans had to put up with his needlessly negative tedium-ball to such a degree http://intothevalley.proboards.com/thread/1268/shut-leave A thread chosen completely at random. From the very first post: Also i don't feel that i have to accept that MY team are not good enough to beat the top teams. I'm not prepared to be satisfied if all the team achieves is to not get relegated. We've all been assuming it's Ashley with the complete lack of ambition, sounds like this has been Pardew's approach for a while... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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