Ronaldo Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 There's absolutely no point in sacking Pardew unless the idea is to get a proper manager in. If Ashley is considering Beardsley then what's the point? Might as well stick with the lickspittle we've got. Because he might be better? Stop playing dumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Why do some think it's so blatantly obvious he'd hire someone s***? The players we buy are not s*** albeit they are not bought often enough so why would the manager be? Because a manager does not have sell-on value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Those calling the shots at the club still have targets for Pardew. They wouldn't sign the likes of de Jong and Cabella if they expected survival and nothing more. Pardew will have been told to improve on last seasons position IMO. I would like to believe this, but I don't see any reason to believe Ashley really cares where in the league we finish. Of course he cares Angry 20th 19th 18th Happy 17th-7th Displeased 6th 5th Conflicted 4th Out of his depth 3rd-1st Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 At the end of the day it's the long contract that keeps him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 At the end of the day it's the long contract that keeps him here. Nah, I dont think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 At the end of the day it's the long contract that keeps him here. Nah, I dont think so. Money is the only thing that makes it difficult for the fat man to pull the trigger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Why do some think it's so blatantly obvious he'd hire someone s***? The players we buy are not s*** albeit they are not bought often enough so why would the manager be? Because a manager does not have sell-on value. Porto and Villas Boas disagree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Timely... Mark Douglas @MsiDouglas Column up very shortly on Pardew under pressure from boardroom for the first time in his #nufc career. In meantime, two links for you... Edit: Here's the article: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/mark-douglas-alan-pardew-must-7580862 In a room on the the second floor of the Baltic on Newcastle’s Quayside, there is a small collection of books and pamphlets about the construction of the Angel of the North. In the middle of it is a big, glossy hardback book detailing the Angel’s troubled birth and eventual soaring triumph. Towards the back they have produced a collage of the media coverage of it and it’s fair to say it wasn’t especially positive. “Not in our back yard,” one headline in the Chronicle’s letters page read. There were others punning on the Angel’s not-so-heavenly intentions. Sometimes, however well-intentioned you might have been, you find yourself on the wrong side of history. As we hurtle into a new season, Alan Pardew will be hoping that one day we say the same about him. Pardew returns to St James’ Park on Sunday for the first time since that incredible day in May when he was forced to retreat into his own dugout to shield himself from the ferocious abuse that rained down from the stands. A new era begins with the visit of Real Sociedad but for Pardew, the same old questions still need to be answered. Forgiveness is relative and redemption will be hard-earned for a manager who found himself at the centre of a perfect storm at the end of last season. The atmosphere should be more optimistic this weekend and for Manchester City. Newcastle, potentially, look like a very good team and have fulfilled the post-season pledge to invest in a squad that would have taken them into a relegation squad if left alone. They look refreshed and re-invigorated by additions that are a credit to the work of Lee Charnley in his first transfer window as managing director. But for Pardew, the hard work starts now. It is not just on the terraces where he needs to reclaim credit. For the first time in his Newcastle tenure, Pardew finds himself under serious pressure to perform. This is not an idle sentence to write: he is under scrutiny in the corridors of power and he knows it. Ashley was generous to him last season but expects to see a return on his investment. It got too uncomfortable last season and that message has been relayed to him. Pardew has the players and he has been backed by the board. Now he needs to deliver a minimum return of eighth place – and a team that the North East public want to watch. Can he do it? His three most profitable spells as Newcastle manager came when he had his back against the wall: when he first got the job as an unpopular choice, after the clear-out of 2011 and last year, when his team bounced back from derby defeat to surge into the top five before Christmas. On all three occasions, Pardew’s teams were successful but functional. Yohan Cabaye delivered moments of divinity in 2011 and 2013 but mostly they were more efficient and effective than their rivals. There was a directness to their play. Now Pardew has more pace and purpose in his squad. The new arrivals are more liberated than team-mates bruised by the experiences of last season. The team should play with freedom, verve and dynamism. The days of Shola Ameobi as a Plan B (or indeed A) are over. The promotion of Rolando Aarons and Cabella hitting the ground running are major positives as pre-season gets serious. Pardew has not been forgiven but he has a period of grace. The fixture list has been kind and so have his transfer team. The stars have alligned for him and the easy mitigation of a difficult owner or a calamitous Director of Football cannot be relied on this time around. He needs to prove himself worthy of the job in more ways than one. This week, the players had two days off to help them rest limbs ahead of Real Sociedad so we can expect them to hit the ground running on Sunday and beyond. Pardew’s longest season starts here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I fully expect him to be sacked should we be in bother this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I fully expect him to be sacked should we be in bother this season. Oh sweet joy (if it happens) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 At the end of the day it's the long contract that keeps him here. Nah, I dont think so. Money is the only thing that makes it difficult for the fat man to pull the trigger. I don't think the king will be owed his contract if he's sacked though. they could have sacked him after his headbutt and not paid him a penny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Now he needs to deliver a minimum return of eighth place – and a team that the North East public want to watch. If that's even half true he's a dead man walking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 GTFI if true! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Now he needs to deliver a minimum return of eighth place – and a team that the North East public want to watch. If that's even half true he's a dead man walking. A team I want to watch has Hatem Ben Arfa in it. However, I live in Bristol so I'm not sure I count as North East public any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 In a room on the the second floor of the Baltic on Newcastle’s Quayside, there is a small collection of books and pamphlets about the construction of the Angel of the North. In the middle of it is a big, glossy hardback book detailing the Angel’s troubled birth and eventual soaring triumph. Towards the back they have produced a collage of the media coverage of it and it’s fair to say it wasn’t especially positive. “Not in our back yard,” one headline in the Chronicle’s letters page read. There were others punning on the Angel’s not-so-heavenly intentions. Sometimes, however well-intentioned you might have been, you find yourself on the wrong side of history. As we hurtle into a new season, Alan Pardew will be hoping that one day we say the same about him. Pardew returns to St James’ Park on Sunday for the first time since that incredible day in May when he was forced to retreat into his own dugout to shield himself from the ferocious abuse that rained down from the stands. A new era begins with the visit of Real Sociedad but for Pardew, the same old questions still need to be answered. Forgiveness is relative and redemption will be hard-earned for a manager who found himself at the centre of a perfect storm at the end of last season. The atmosphere should be more optimistic this weekend and for Manchester City. Newcastle, potentially, look like a very good team and have fulfilled the post-season pledge to invest in a squad that would have taken them into a relegation squad if left alone. They look refreshed and re-invigorated by additions that are a credit to the work of Lee Charnley in his first transfer window as managing director. But for Pardew, the hard work starts now. It is not just on the terraces where he needs to reclaim credit. For the first time in his Newcastle tenure, Pardew finds himself under serious pressure to perform. This is not an idle sentence to write: he is under scrutiny in the corridors of power and he knows it. Ashley was generous to him last season but expects to see a return on his investment. It got too uncomfortable last season and that message has been relayed to him. Pardew has the players and he has been backed by the board. Now he needs to deliver a minimum return of eighth place – and a team that the North East public want to watch. Can he do it? His three most profitable spells as Newcastle manager came when he had his back against the wall: when he first got the job as an unpopular choice, after the clear-out of 2011 and last year, when his team bounced back from derby defeat to surge into the top five before Christmas. On all three occasions, Pardew’s teams were successful but functional. Yohan Cabaye delivered moments of divinity in 2011 and 2013 but mostly they were more efficient and effective than their rivals. There was a directness to their play. Now Pardew has more pace and purpose in his squad. The new arrivals are more liberated than team-mates bruised by the experiences of last season. The team should play with freedom, verve and dynamism. The days of Shola Ameobi as a Plan B (or indeed A) are over. The promotion of Rolando Aarons and Cabella hitting the ground running are major positives as pre-season gets serious. Pardew has not been forgiven but he has a period of grace. The fixture list has been kind and so have his transfer team. The stars have alligned for him and the easy mitigation of a difficult owner or a calamitous Director of Football cannot be relied on this time around. He needs to prove himself worthy of the job in more ways than one. This week, the players had two days off to help them rest limbs ahead of Real Sociedad so we can expect them to hit the ground running on Sunday and beyond. Pardew’s longest season starts here. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/sport-opinion/mark-douglas-alan-pardew-must-7580862? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Now he needs to deliver a minimum return of eighth place – and a team that the North East public want to watch. If that's even half true he's a dead man walking. I'm not sure. I don't see many teams outside the top 7 that are better than us. Our biggest rivals for 8th would be Stoke probably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Was saying earlier in week that all this talk of pushing the top six is coming from above, no way he'd put that sort of pressure on himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'll believe that when I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Not being in a relegation battle and him still getting sacked would be wonderful. God, I hope this is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Now he needs to deliver a minimum return of eighth place – and a team that the North East public want to watch. If that's even half true he's a dead man walking. I'm not sure. I don't see many teams outside the top 7 that are better than us. Our biggest rivals for 8th would be Stoke probably Our biggest rival or threat to 8th is Pardew. We might achieve it with our players alone, but it'll be ground out and shite to watch with interspersed moments of individual magic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I really hope to fuck all that is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Now he needs to deliver a minimum return of eighth place – and a team that the North East public want to watch. If that's even half true he's a dead man walking. I'm not sure. I don't see many teams outside the top 7 that are better than us. Our biggest rivals for 8th would be Stoke probably It says "and a team the north east public want to watch" If it's true no way in hell he lasts, I remain skeptical of the validity of it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 This is the season. I can feel it. The King is dead, long live the King. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 If he stays away from the bottom of the league then he'll not be sacked. I take murmurings like this with a large pinch of salt these days, this has been written with the intention of reassuring the annoyed fans that there is a consequence to under-performing. Honestly don't believe there's much more pressure than there has been previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Why are the Chronicle writing it then? Not that I believe it either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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