Skeletor Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Van Persie out for a(nother) month. No way! He's back to his injury prone ways then. Knew last season was a blip. Sounds like he was rushed back way too early to play against us. Probably done himself damage long term now. Doubt this will be his last injury this season. Couldn't happen to a more deserving prick http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02166/vanpersie_2166175b.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 What a punchable cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Moyes' comments last Saturday suggest he played him out of desperation. Still funny nonetheless! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 The plot just gets better and better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 What a punchable cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Not for me. But, I can see the reasoning. We'll let that one go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Wow, this is getting dull fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Havn't done the double over them since 30/31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Havn't done the double over them since 30/31 Great time to make a post like that 4 months before we play them again you idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Havn't done the double over them since 30/31 Great time to make a post like that 4 months before we play them again you idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 After his early anti-diving stance, Moyes has now come out defending Januzaj's dive, asking for more protection for his player instead. Hopefully valid decisions such as penalties will be dismissed when it comes to Januzaj, Young and Hernandez and cost them a few points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Did Januzaj get booked for the pratfall he attempted in the area in our fantastic victory at Gloryhuntville? I have a feeling he didn't. Make simulation a red card offence it would soon stop. They're obvious enough to spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Did Januzaj get booked for the pratfall he attempted in the area in our fantastic victory at Gloryhuntville? I have a feeling he didn't. Make simulation a red card offence it would soon stop. They're obvious enough to spot. That was Hernandez, he didn't get booked even though the ref knew it was a dive Januzaj dived later on and "won" a free kick even though Ben Arfa completely missed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Did Januzaj get booked for the pratfall he attempted in the area in our fantastic victory at Gloryhuntville? I have a feeling he didn't. Make simulation a red card offence it would soon stop. They're obvious enough to spot. A red would be a bit harsh unless it was REALLY obvious but yellows need to be shown a lot more and I hate this "Booked so early it ruins the game" bollocks. If the ref gives a freekick for diving it should be a yellow every time, not sure why they don't, it's not like an overly enthusiastic tackle. If you think they have cheated then there is no grey area imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Did Januzaj get booked for the pratfall he attempted in the area in our fantastic victory at Gloryhuntville? I have a feeling he didn't. Make simulation a red card offence it would soon stop. They're obvious enough to spot. A red would be a bit harsh unless it was REALLY obvious but yellows need to be shown a lot more and I hate this "Booked so early it ruins the game" bollocks. If the ref gives a freekick for diving it should be a yellow every time, not sure why they don't, it's not like an overly enthusiastic tackle. If you think they have cheated then there is no grey area imo. It would soon disappear from the game though Jon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yellow is sufficient if combined with retrospective action done properly and refs actually pulling play back for pens after there's been a clear foul on a player who then doesn't dive but staggers on and say then misses or something. Refs seem to only punish often when people go to ground so it's not surprising players are willing to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 All those dives with obvious non-contact should be punished retrospectively with match bans though. Those players would think twice before trying to con the ref. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Is it just me that doesn't mind diving? If you can get away with it fair play to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 All those dives with obvious non-contact should be punished retrospectively with match bans though. Those players would think twice before trying to con the ref. Exactly, a yellow should be issued and it should then be given to a panel who then issue a retrospective ban. If they start issuing reds then you just know all legitimate fouls against random teams up against the big teams will result in a dive and a red from the referee this giving the big teams start getting the advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Did Januzaj get booked for the pratfall he attempted in the area in our fantastic victory at Gloryhuntville? I have a feeling he didn't. Make simulation a red card offence it would soon stop. They're obvious enough to spot. A red would be a bit harsh unless it was REALLY obvious but yellows need to be shown a lot more and I hate this "Booked so early it ruins the game" bollocks. If the ref gives a freekick for diving it should be a yellow every time, not sure why they don't, it's not like an overly enthusiastic tackle. If you think they have cheated then there is no grey area imo. It would soon disappear from the game though Jon. I still think players would be sent off when they shouldn't have been, agree with LRD about the retrospective action though. If a player has blatantly cheated they should receive a lengthy ban, that would quickly stop it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Yep, imo unless punished as a dive during the game if replays retrospectively show no contact, or diving player deliberately causing the contact (realise this is the grey area but plenty of cut and dry cases of this imo), then a 1 match suspension, and this should be regardless of whether the ref saw the incident and booked the other player (and indeed yellow cards should be rescinded) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 All those dives with obvious non-contact should be punished retrospectively with match bans though. Those players would think twice before trying to con the ref. Exactly, a yellow should be issued and it should then be given to a panel who then issue a retrospective ban. If they start issuing reds then you just know all legitimate fouls against random teams up against the big teams will result in a dive and a red from the referee this giving the big teams start getting the advantage. Straight one match ban but like yellow card accumulation each time a player dives the ban should increase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 The other thing mind is that the media clearly perpetuates the myth that it is purely the players fault and they just happen to be the 'diving (foreign obviously) type' when clearly managers can and do encourage cheating on the pitch. Managers encourage players to try and win penalties and should take the blame for cheaty teams as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 All those dives with obvious non-contact should be punished retrospectively with match bans though. Those players would think twice before trying to con the ref. Exactly, a yellow should be issued and it should then be given to a panel who then issue a retrospective ban. If they start issuing reds then you just know all legitimate fouls against random teams up against the big teams will result in a dive and a red from the referee this giving the big teams start getting the advantage. Straight one match ban but like yellow card accumulation each time a player dives the ban should increase. Another good shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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