Ronaldo Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Not relevant then, is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Moyes and Everton were a good match but at the end of the day they were kind of standing still as a club and I know a lot of Everton fans were getting tired of the poor starts/strong finish or the negative and cautious approach. He did a good job there, a very good job, but nothing remarkable. Certainly nothing to suggest he could achieve anything with Man Utd. He's an average manager in the same mould as Hughes, Bruce et al. Managers like them need to be at the right club to do good things and under the right conditions, as such those type of managers are limited. He is head and shoulders above Pardew mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 When did Hughes and Bruce finish 4th with no money to spend? Hughes couldn't even get the world's richest club 4th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Not relevant then, is it? I think there's an interesting comparison between the two discussions. Incidentally I'd take Moyes here in a flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 When did Hughes and Bruce finish 4th with no money to spend? Hughes couldn't even get the world's richest club 4th. If you want to use those kind of variables we could cite Pardew finishing 5th or Big Sam finishing 6th with Bolton. Regardless, Moyes is in the same bracket of manager as Hughes and Bruce in terms of abilities. What he did with Everton was very good, but he had no pressure and he did have money to spend. What Big Sam did at Bolton was more impressive. Btw I rate Moyes, he's a decent enough manager but that is all he is. Bruce is the same as is Hughes. Sadly in this country there seems to be a huge gulf between the different managers. we have no outstanding manager and all the top managers are foreign. We are a backward nation when it comes to playing and coaching football and it stems from the grassroots game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 When did Hughes and Bruce finish 4th with no money to spend? Hughes couldn't even get the world's richest club 4th. If you want to use those kind of variables we could cite Pardew finishing 5th or Big Sam finishing 6th with Bolton. I'll leave it there. Not repeating myself again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I'll leave it there. Not repeating myself again. You and that fucking smiley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Moyes was comically poor at Man United, and plenty saw it coming from the moment he was appointed. Good manager at Everton, not cut out for the next level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Bit pathetic to see Scholes saying that Man Utd should play 4-4-2 because they have been successful playing that in the last. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Moyes was comically poor at Man United, and plenty saw it coming from the moment he was appointed. Good manager at Everton, not cut out for the next level. I agree with this but once they appointed him, they should have backed him a whole heap more in the transfer market. And in that respect, I'd say Moyes was a tad hard done to there. It will be interesting to see them languishing in 6/7th place again after backing LVG so much more, if they'll sack him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 George Burley. Frank Clark. Benjamin Netanyahu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 They need some drive from Midfield alongside Herrera, a winger who can create something and a top class CB. Get them and they might have a successful season, fail to do so and 5th is the ceiling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KaKa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Suggesting, let alone saying that Moyes is on the same level as Hughes, Bruce and Allardyce is as embarrassing as saying he's worthy of the Man United job. Most realise he's neither, the rest are just talking crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Man U will probably have a reasonable season once Van Gaal sorts out who he wants and what sort of system those players will do best with but there are NO guarantees ; they did this before in the early 70s after the side of Best Law and Charlton started to fade. People remember us beating them 5-0 at SJP in 1996, but we also beat them 5-1 at SJP when they were on the wane at the start of the 70s. When a club has a dynastic and dictatorial manager like Ferguson(and, in a different way, Busby)it is going to mean a big hole at the centre of the club when they go...they have a massive commercial base though and will spend but even that doesn't guarantee the type of unbroken success they have enjoyed in the past 20 years. It will be very interesting to watch it all unfold..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Suggesting, let alone saying that Moyes is on the same level as Hughes, Bruce and Allardyce is as embarrassing as saying he's worthy of the Man United job. Most realise he's neither, the rest are just talking crap. Exactly. Although it was partly his fault - LVG wouldn't do significantly better with that team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 A narrow defeat when we've several key players out while trying to implement a new system and a lot of people are changing their tune already. There'll be at least one centre back signed and three/four first team players to come back into this side. I didn't find the defeat all that surprising when I seen the lineup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Can't believe all this Van Gaal talk The guy was missing Van Persie, Valencia, Shaw and Evans yesterday. It was always going to be difficult to play the new system with those kids that were out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Sorry if Giggs but has that video of a bird shitting in Ashley Young's mouth during yesterday's match been mentioned yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Sorry if Giggs but has that video of a bird shitting in Ashley Young's mouth during yesterday's match been mentioned yet? It makes me nauseous thinking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Wow, Pardew's 'look who was missing'excuse being wheeled out for LvG already huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Sorry if Giggs but has that video of a bird shitting in Ashley Young's mouth during yesterday's match been mentioned yet? It makes me nauseous thinking about it. Reddit slowed it down and it turns out it didn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28901995 Looks like the siege mentally is kicking in nice & early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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