gdm Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, Froggy said: I think he's just wanting to fast track everything as we're well behind where we want to be, and it's led to frustrations. The worst thing is that he's very public about his frustrations and comes across quite small time, but I'm sure he'll learn or take a backseat when the proper executives are in place. Hopefully. Regardless, he's still making the right moves in terms of personal and infastructure upgrades, so we're happy with that. if he’s that keen on fast tracking you can’t do it on the cheap. In any walk of life if you want things quicker you generally have to pay more not less. We don’t know for sure what Newcastle will be prepared to accept for Ashworth but offering less than 50% of what we paid for isn’t getting him in faster. He needs to accept it’s Manchester United he isn’t gonna achieve what he wants on the cheap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 that he's spouting off to the media again suggests the arbitration / negotiations aren't going very well for him needs someone to blame and make sure MU fans know it's not his fault Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, Ginola14 said: that he's spouting off to the media again suggests the arbitration / negotiations aren't going very well for him needs someone to blame and make sure MU fans know it's not his fault He doesn’t learn… which at 73 is very worrying if you’re a Man Utd fan. He keeps playing things out in the media, which only pisses people off more and makes you look foolish. We learnt the hard way with Emery, thankfully since then we’ve been much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 He's going to constantly do this isn't he ? Lowball offers to unsettle players and get them to agitate for a move. He's going to build up some wonderful relationships. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Looks like some Man Utd fans are turning against brexit Jim already… https://www.redcafe.net/threads/bloomberg-jim-ratcliffe-on-plans-for-man-utd.483218/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Looks like some Man Utd fans are turning against brexit Jim already… https://www.redcafe.net/threads/bloomberg-jim-ratcliffe-on-plans-for-man-utd.483218/ Some of the comments are gold: ‘God I wish he’d just shut up and stop trying to be the face of the club. Hateful prick.’ ‘Not really. I hate the Glazers. But a British Tax dodging Brexiteer Tory isn’t going to thrill me. He’s a privileged prick of a billionaire that’s doing a victory lap of his life with our football club. feck that shit.’ ‘This is my concern too. Nice have gone nowhere under him. Mercedes racing and the cycling team are a bit eh. He talks the talk but can he walk the walk?’ ‘His voice is incredibly annoying. I'll stick to written versions of interviews in future.’ ‘As he’s just taken a stake in the club I’m not against him speaking up but after a while I’d prefer him keep shut apart from important moments. Abramovic, Sheikh Mansour, Henry and Kronke barely ever speak/spoke. They left all of that to the CEOs they employed.’ ‘Ralf Rangnick was arguably a better talker.’ ‘The whole situation with Nice and Tobido. That's the sort of thing that would have been entirely predictable to forsee and I don't get what whinging about it like a spoilt child is going to do to help. When he starts doing anything helpful at all I might have a more positive view but so far all we've had is some self absorbed "Wembley of the North" vanity posturing, whining about rules that he should have already been well aware of, and idiotic/counter productive press leaks.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 4 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Some of the comments are gold: ‘God I wish he’d just shut up and stop trying to be the face of the club. Hateful prick.’ ‘Not really. I hate the Glazers. But a British Tax dodging Brexiteer Tory isn’t going to thrill me. He’s a privileged prick of a billionaire that’s doing a victory lap of his life with our football club. feck that shit.’ ‘This is my concern too. Nice have gone nowhere under him. Mercedes racing and the cycling team are a bit eh. He talks the talk but can he walk the walk?’ ‘His voice is incredibly annoying. I'll stick to written versions of interviews in future.’ ‘As he’s just taken a stake in the club I’m not against him speaking up but after a while I’d prefer him keep shut apart from important moments. Abramovic, Sheikh Mansour, Henry and Kronke barely ever speak/spoke. They left all of that to the CEOs they employed.’ ‘Ralf Rangnick was arguably a better talker.’ ‘The whole situation with Nice and Tobido. That's the sort of thing that would have been entirely predictable to forsee and I don't get what whinging about it like a spoilt child is going to do to help. When he starts doing anything helpful at all I might have a more positive view but so far all we've had is some self absorbed "Wembley of the North" vanity posturing, whining about rules that he should have already been well aware of, and idiotic/counter productive press leaks.’ Beautiful! 🤩 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Sad really, football fans shouldn't be beholden to these people at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gjohnson Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: I'm sure he'll fully understand what gardening leave is for if any of his staff move to another club and know exactly what Man United plans, transfer targets, structure, training methods etc are. It's unbelievably simple. I doubt it...most CEOs are so far removed from day to day workings more often than not they haven't got a clue. One of the places I worked at the COO went on sick with stress after 6 weeks in the job and for some reason the Ceo was surprised he couldn't just sack him on the spot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 17 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: Well that's made my day, Ashley would have flipped a coin for Ashworth then puked on Jim's briefcase by now. It's nice to know we are being ran by professionals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 I like how manure asked themselves how do we become the biggest cunts in world football again, and their answer was to get Ratface on the board. The Glazers are excelling all whilst getting the easiest ride since buying the club (with its own money) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 If Man U hadn't been absolute sly fuckers, made a proper approach rather than an illegal one, and hadn't gobbed off to the media, and hadn't offered a fee lower than what we paid Brighton, we'd have probably settled on a more reasonable fee and business would be done be now. But no, they acted like total bellends. Hope we keep demanding £20m and keep him on gardening leave for as long as possible. A good chunk of fans on Red Cafe still can't seem to comprehend why it's come to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 33 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: I'm not seeing this via rose tinted geps here am I? He's calling us awkward for not allowing Dan to leave his post at Newcastle, where we have entrusted him with shaping our clubs future, only a couple of years down the line and for less than we had to pay to lure him from Brighton? Yes it may be awkward to him, but it's a massive blow to ourselves and our progress so you would think he would've approached the club and thrashed it out. Not sure how having secret meetings and basically saying "I want to make us good overnight so give me your top class employees or else I'll cwy" is the best strategy to take. You either follow the correct protocols and procedures, or you stump up more money to fastrack your ideas, I'd have though that a simple thing for a business man like him to grasp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Let him whine and give him as much media time as possible. Don’t stop your enemies from making mistakes and all that. His rhetoric is so bad it’s hilarious and I love to watch it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 14 minutes ago, NE27 said: I'm not seeing this via rose tinted geps here am I? He's calling us awkward for not allowing Dan to leave his post at Newcastle, where we have entrusted him with shaping our clubs future, only a couple of years down the line and for less than we had to pay to lure him from Brighton? Yes it may be awkward to him, but it's a massive blow to ourselves and our progress so you would think he would've approached the club and thrashed it out. Not sure how having secret meetings and basically saying "I want to make us good overnight so give me your top class employees or else I'll cwy" is the best strategy to take. You either follow the correct protocols and procedures, or you stump up more money to fastrack your ideas, I'd have though that a simple thing for a business man like him to grasp He’s an arrogant spoiled cwunt that’s missing the business protocols and concepts. Once realised he still wants to stamp his feet and have his candy. Fucking buffoon of a man. They deserve each other manure and Jimbob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 At least I know now when I go shopping tomorrow and my bill is £100 I can say "I'll give you £30 and if you don't accept your awkward and unprofessional" hopefully they'll see it my way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 The situation hasn't changed in months now, if he wanted to resolve it he could pick up the phone and offer a more reasonable figure as compensation - it's that straightforward. Offering a pittance then moaning when it's not immediately accepted makes him look ridiculous especially when he's twisting on in public every week. Not suggesting he should offer exactly what are asking for but it's got to at least half to even start a negotiation? Surely he knows how deals are made and concessions are usually made on both sides, that's how normal people do things, this cunt though - fuck me. What a wanker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 2 hours ago, Ronson333 said: Looks like some Man Utd fans are turning against brexit Jim already… https://www.redcafe.net/threads/bloomberg-jim-ratcliffe-on-plans-for-man-utd.483218/ The same way plenty of fans on here were shouting Howe out. Right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Froggy said: The same way plenty of fans on here were shouting Howe out. Right? I'd say it's a much closer comparison with the realisation on here around 2008ish that our new billionaire owner who seemed sound as he downed pints in the away end, was actually a massive cunt who wanted to constantly cut corners and do everything on the cheap You've basically got your very own Mike Ashley but Jim has wet dreams about playing with chemistry sets not flogging sweatshop sports socks in a jumble sale Edited June 21, 2024 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 3 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Pay up AND shut up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 1 minute ago, Skeletor said: Pay up AND shut up. Correct! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Ratcliffe is 100% the type of person that will have bullied their way into success. Just listen to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 This man is still going around crying everywhere?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 21, 2024 Share Posted June 21, 2024 Just now, KaKa said: This man is still going around crying everywhere?! He’s already shifted political elegance in readiness for sucking off Starmer and begging for “the Wembley of the North” Odious self serving rodent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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