mrmojorisin75 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 It wasn't bad at all, it was soft as shite and completely pathetic. You cannot purposefully play the man instead of the ball though, you have to make an attempt to win the ball when making a challenge otherwise it's a yellow. The same with touching a players' face, regardless of how hard you hit if you raise your hands to a players face you're off. right, point is though that (unless something has changed) refs take that into account when issuing a second yellow...he kicked the back of cabayes legs when they were both stood next to each other, it's barely a first yellow nevermind second agree with the "fuck them" thing mind, what goes around etc....let's just not ignore how soft it was and how much it saved our skin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 It was pretty much a ponces attempt of Guthrie vs Craig Fagan. Aye. He had no intention of doing anything than kicking Cabaye. Foul. Yellow card. Thick cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Should just agree to disagree. I think it was worthy of a second yellow purely because he told Cabaye that he was going to do him in front of the ref and then proceeded to foul him. It was thick as fuck. well, i didn't know this happened...however did that class as "doing him"? if so i was playing in the wrong sunday league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Should just agree to disagree. I think it was worthy of a second yellow purely because he told Cabaye that he was going to do him in front of the ref and then proceeded to foul him. It was thick as f***. well, i didn't know this happened...however did that class as "doing him"? if so i was playing in the wrong sunday league No, but it obviously would have put the thought into the ref's mind when he then proceeded to foul Cabaye from behind. Soft but really thick from Whelan. I'd have been foaming if one of our players did it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (Not) surprised MOTD didn't show Whelan's gesture to Cabaye post first yellow given it was pretty important to the narrative of what was going to happen. Same with the Cisse pen. Having their goal back, the defending was even worse than I remember. Divvent let an obvious right footer who just scored screamer cut in unchallenged to fire off a shot FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Might be worth mentioning that all the Stoke fans were saying that's the best 40 mins of football they have played under Hughes. We were poor like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Walter Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Ben Arfa is insane, insane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 He kicked out after motioning he was going to 'do him' minutes earlier. It was as blatant a yellow as you'll ever see. The first one was soft. what so saying something now counts in an innocuous foul? 'cause that's what it was like, it was f*** all There was no attempt to play the ball. Thick as f*** on a yellow card. wasn't worthy of a second yellow, sorry like it just wasn't He was making no attempt to play the ball and I heard the contact his boot made on Cabaye's shinpad from 40 yards away, the referee will have heard it as well. Impossible for the ref to do anything except show a yellow card imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 He kicked out after motioning he was going to 'do him' minutes earlier. It was as blatant a yellow as you'll ever see. The first one was soft. what so saying something now counts in an innocuous foul? 'cause that's what it was like, it was f*** all There was no attempt to play the ball. Thick as f*** on a yellow card. wasn't worthy of a second yellow, sorry like it just wasn't He was making no attempt to play the ball and I heard the contact his boot made on Cabaye's shinpad from 40 yards away, the referee will have heard it as well. Impossible for the ref to do anything except show a yellow card imo. The fact that there was no protest at all from the player sums it up, he kicked out at him deliberately in an act of 'revenge'. The only card up for debate would be the first yellow, but if I was a Stoke fan I'd be more angry at the player for being thick enough to get sent of after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I can't believe mojo is actually arguing that this wasn't a yellow. It was a ridiculous challenge to make, especially when you've just been booked a few minutes earlier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 And he said quite vocally he was going to "do" Cabaye. It looks harsh because the red had to come out but it's a yellow every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Just been saying in the other thread - the second was 100% a booking like, don't think the first one was though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Aye I'm not sure about the first. I find it all hilarious because we normally get nothing off refs, I'll take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 A statement on the FA website read: "Stoke City manager Mark Hughes has been charged by The FA following his side's game at Newcastle United yesterday [Thursday 26 December]. "It is alleged that his behaviour in or around the 40th minute of the fixture amounted to improper conduct." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 A statement on the FA website read: "Stoke City manager Mark Hughes has been charged by The FA following his side's game at Newcastle United yesterday [Thursday 26 December]. "It is alleged that his behaviour in or around the 40th minute of the fixture amounted to improper conduct." Quite right too. How managers can expect their players to behave with discipline when they themselves act like brats, I'll never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hughes done fuck all wrong tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 He kicked out after motioning he was going to 'do him' minutes earlier. It was as blatant a yellow as you'll ever see. The first one was soft. what so saying something now counts in an innocuous foul? 'cause that's what it was like, it was f*** all There was no attempt to play the ball. Thick as f*** on a yellow card. wasn't worthy of a second yellow, sorry like it just wasn't Should just agree to disagree. I think it was worthy of a second yellow purely because he told Cabaye that he was going to do him in front of the ref and then proceeded to foul him. It was thick as fuck. You're right, those at the game or watching it all in real time will understand that Whelan talked himself into a red card, I honestly couldn't believe what I was seeing when Hughes patted him on the back on his way off, it was one of the most idiotic things I've seen on a football pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 And he said quite vocally he was going to "do" Cabaye. It looks harsh because the red had to come out but it's a yellow every time. That's what got him sent off. He fact that he needlessly kicked Cabaye so soon after the 1st yellow and with the ref so close to the 2nd incident left the ref with no option but to show a 2nd yellow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 well , If he told Cabaye he was going to do him. and the ref heard it, then he kicked cabaye- How can the ref see it as anything but intent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hughes is a shit cunt and his players are too. Whelan's first yellow: soft foul but three different offences so a good decision, Cabaye perhaps lucky to escape Scott free Whelan's second yellow: sheer aggression with no attempt to play ball, good decision Hughes's red card: acting like a prick, acknowledged in interview, good decision Wilson's red card: clear goalscoring opportunity, good decision Williamson's handball: poor decision, wouldn't have effected result Ben Arfa's assist: poor decision, ball went out, wouldn't have effected result Second penalty appeal/award: Hatem clearly hacked down, good decision Third penalty appeal/dismissal: contentious one, clear push on Cabaye, fair enough decision Fourth penalty appeal/dismissal: rough challenge but probably got enough of the ball, fair enough decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hughes is a shit cunt and his players are too. Whelan's first yellow: soft foul but three different offences so a good decision, Cabaye perhaps lucky to escape Scott free Whelan's second yellow: sheer aggression with no attempt to play ball, good decision Hughes's red card: acting like a prick, acknowledged in interview, good decision Wilson's red card: clear goalscoring opportunity, good decision Williamson's handball: poor decision, wouldn't have effected result Ben Arfa's assist: poor decision, ball went out, wouldn't have effected result Second penalty appeal/award: Hatem clearly hacked down, good decision Third penalty appeal/dismissal: contentious one, clear push on Cabaye, fair enough decision Fourth penalty appeal/dismissal: rough challenge but probably got enough of the ball, fair enough decision I cant stand Hughes as nothing is ever his or his teams fault but all he did was kick the ball back on the pitch. That really was all he did as shown on Soccer Extra this morning. His sending off was a joke and ridiculous and shows just how precious 4th officials can be. I feel so wrong sticking up for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hughes is a shit cunt and his players are too. Whelan's first yellow: soft foul but three different offences so a good decision, Cabaye perhaps lucky to escape Scott free Whelan's second yellow: sheer aggression with no attempt to play ball, good decision Hughes's red card: acting like a prick, acknowledged in interview, good decision Wilson's red card: clear goalscoring opportunity, good decision Williamson's handball: poor decision, wouldn't have effected result Ben Arfa's assist: poor decision, ball went out, wouldn't have effected result Second penalty appeal/award: Hatem clearly hacked down, good decision Third penalty appeal/dismissal: contentious one, clear push on Cabaye, fair enough decision Fourth penalty appeal/dismissal: rough challenge but probably got enough of the ball, fair enough decision I cant stand Hughes as nothing is ever his or his teams fault but all he did was kick the ball back on the pitch. That really was all he did as shown on Soccer Extra this morning. His sending off was a joke and ridiculous and shows just how precious 4th officials can be. I feel so wrong sticking up for him. There was already a ball on the pitch though, so he was just being a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hughes is a shit cunt and his players are too. Whelan's first yellow: soft foul but three different offences so a good decision, Cabaye perhaps lucky to escape Scott free Whelan's second yellow: sheer aggression with no attempt to play ball, good decision Hughes's red card: acting like a prick, acknowledged in interview, good decision Wilson's red card: clear goalscoring opportunity, good decision Williamson's handball: poor decision, wouldn't have effected result Ben Arfa's assist: poor decision, ball went out, wouldn't have effected result Second penalty appeal/award: Hatem clearly hacked down, good decision Third penalty appeal/dismissal: contentious one, clear push on Cabaye, fair enough decision Fourth penalty appeal/dismissal: rough challenge but probably got enough of the ball, fair enough decision I cant stand Hughes as nothing is ever his or his teams fault but all he did was kick the ball back on the pitch. That really was all he did as shown on Soccer Extra this morning. His sending off was a joke and ridiculous and shows just how precious 4th officials can be. I feel so wrong sticking up for him. There was already a ball on the pitch though, so he was just being a cunt. Not according to Kamara this morning, ah well then, hang the cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hughes is a shit cunt and his players are too. Whelan's first yellow: soft foul but three different offences so a good decision, Cabaye perhaps lucky to escape Scott free Whelan's second yellow: sheer aggression with no attempt to play ball, good decision Hughes's red card: acting like a prick, acknowledged in interview, good decision Wilson's red card: clear goalscoring opportunity, good decision Williamson's handball: poor decision, wouldn't have effected result Ben Arfa's assist: poor decision, ball went out, wouldn't have effected result Second penalty appeal/award: Hatem clearly hacked down, good decision Third penalty appeal/dismissal: contentious one, clear push on Cabaye, fair enough decision Fourth penalty appeal/dismissal: rough challenge but probably got enough of the ball, fair enough decision I cant stand Hughes as nothing is ever his or his teams fault but all he did was kick the ball back on the pitch. That really was all he did as shown on Soccer Extra this morning. His sending off was a joke and ridiculous and shows just how precious 4th officials can be. I feel so wrong sticking up for him. There was already a ball on the pitch though, so he was just being a cunt. Not according to Kamara this morning, ah well then, hang the cunt. They came back to it after the break and Kamara apologised as he didn't realise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Hughes is a shit cunt and his players are too. Whelan's first yellow: soft foul but three different offences so a good decision, Cabaye perhaps lucky to escape Scott free Whelan's second yellow: sheer aggression with no attempt to play ball, good decision Hughes's red card: acting like a prick, acknowledged in interview, good decision Wilson's red card: clear goalscoring opportunity, good decision Williamson's handball: poor decision, wouldn't have effected result Ben Arfa's assist: poor decision, ball went out, wouldn't have effected result Second penalty appeal/award: Hatem clearly hacked down, good decision Third penalty appeal/dismissal: contentious one, clear push on Cabaye, fair enough decision Fourth penalty appeal/dismissal: rough challenge but probably got enough of the ball, fair enough decision I cant stand Hughes as nothing is ever his or his teams fault but all he did was kick the ball back on the pitch. That really was all he did as shown on Soccer Extra this morning. His sending off was a joke and ridiculous and shows just how precious 4th officials can be. I feel so wrong sticking up for him. There was already a ball on the pitch though, so he was just being a cunt. Not according to Kamara this morning, ah well then, hang the cunt. They came back to it after the break and Kamara apologised as he didn't realise. Really, i shouldn't have switched over as soon as they finished our bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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