Cronky Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So despite Pardew ruining them as players, they'll get the move to a CL club that is eluding them at the moment. I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So despite Pardew ruining them as players, they'll get the move to a CL club that is eluding them at the moment. I see. Were you dropped on your head as a baby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. I'm massively torn at the moment like. I like that the players we're getting in might not be absolutely fucking loathsome and detestable to watch at the games I'll be dragging myself regrettably along too. But at the same time a lot of me hopes we lose due to the bellend in charge. I can almost tolerate Ashley as he doesn't inflict the 90 mins of pain just the background of loathing, Pardew though - no chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So despite Pardew ruining them as players, they'll get the move to a CL club that is eluding them at the moment. I see. They're either consigned to the reserves or sold as soon as they hit their stride. It's lose/lose for us as supporters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 The club has become a conveyor belt. Cabaye out one end, De Jong comes in, Cabella comes in, Debuchy goes out etc. who gives a fuck man? All this piss and nonsense purely to keep a football club squarely mid-table and promoting a spunky sports shop chain. If others give a fuck then that's up to them. Spot on. Even 12 months ago people would've been far more positive about a signing like this. Staggering how much enjoyment has been drained from us this past year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 So despite Pardew ruining them as players, they'll get the move to a CL club that is eluding them at the moment. I see. <a href="http://reactiongifs.com/?p=15514"><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/fart.gif"></a> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. Fair points, 2014 matches have been a struggle. I struggle with wanting us to lose, just because I dread who the replacement would be. Ashley has dug up JFK twice and tried really hard to unleash O'Leary on us. I think we'd have to be relegated for him to be sacked - if there was a guarantee Ashley and Pardew would go then I'd take it, but sadly that is not a guarantee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. Fair points, 2014 matches have been a struggle. I struggle with wanting us to lose, just because I dread who the replacement would be. Ashley has dug up JFK twice and tried really hard to unleash O'Leary on us. I think we'd have to be relegated for him to be sacked - if there was a guarantee Ashley and Pardew would go then I'd take it, but sadly that is not a guarantee. How are any of those choices worse than Pardew though? I mean he's less obviously embarrassing but as a manager he's the fucking pitts, can't think of anyone worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I'd sell my granny for David O'Leary tbh. I crave change, even if it's just somebody else to hate. We're a club with a fanbase stuck in an abusive relationship - "I know he broke my arm and beat me unconscious but what will I do without him?! He loves me! *blub*" That goes for both Pardew and Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. I'm massively torn at the moment like. I like that the players we're getting in might not be absolutely fucking loathsome and detestable to watch at the games I'll be dragging myself regrettably along too. But at the same time a lot of me hopes we lose due to the bellend in charge. I can almost tolerate Ashley as he doesn't inflict the 90 mins of pain just the background of loathing, Pardew though - no chance. A lot of the time with Pardew I can tell at 2pm when the team is announced if I'm going to enjoy the game or not. Hopefully with a few more options that might not be so bad. I thought we played some ok stuff before Christmas, nout dazzling but like a team who were capable of finishing 7th or thereabouts. Some horror shows, as ever with Pardew, but some good away performances and the occasional home success had us well placed but then we all know what happened next. He's just a detestable cunt though who will have us seeing out games after 30 minutes with a 1 goal lead, but I love supporting this mess of a club more than I hate this arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. Fair points, 2014 matches have been a struggle. I struggle with wanting us to lose, just because I dread who the replacement would be. Ashley has dug up JFK twice and tried really hard to unleash O'Leary on us. I think we'd have to be relegated for him to be sacked - if there was a guarantee Ashley and Pardew would go then I'd take it, but sadly that is not a guarantee. How are any of those choices worse than Pardew though? I mean he's less obviously embarrassing but as a manager he's the fucking pitts, can't think of anyone worse. So you would take JFK over Pardew? I don't like Pardew, but that is absurd. O'Leary, well, after brummie's review of him I'm pleased we avoided him. The grass isn't always greener but when your grass is covered in shit anyway beggars can't be choosers I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Pardew's continuous employment is unprecedented in top flight English football while I've been alive. For a manager so bad to be employed for so long should be the biggest alarm bell for anyone who thinks the football club could care less about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Grenier would have been the perfect Cabaye replacement Just watched his scout nation vid, would rather we bought him and Cabella over De Jong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I'd take JFK. He'd be dead in six months anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. I'm massively torn at the moment like. I like that the players we're getting in might not be absolutely fucking loathsome and detestable to watch at the games I'll be dragging myself regrettably along too. But at the same time a lot of me hopes we lose due to the bellend in charge. I can almost tolerate Ashley as he doesn't inflict the 90 mins of pain just the background of loathing, Pardew though - no chance. A lot of the time with Pardew I can tell at 2pm when the team is announced if I'm going to enjoy the game or not. Hopefully with a few more options that might not be so bad. I thought we played some ok stuff before Christmas, nout dazzling but like a team who were capable of finishing 7th or thereabouts. Some horror shows, as ever with Pardew, but some good away performances and the occasional home success had us well placed but then we all know what happened next. He's just a detestable cunt though who will have us seeing out games after 30 minutes with a 1 goal lead, but I love supporting this mess of a club more than I hate this arsehole. I can see where you're coming from and I understand it as that has been me but now it's gone too much the other way. I enjoyed 2.5 home games (Chelsea & Stoke, atmosphere v Cardiff) of 19 last season, absolutely shite state of affairs and while that may increase if we sign a couple of strikers to add to the others you know if it comes down to it and we're doing well in Feb/March there'll be a dip to ensure we don't do to well. From a personal POV I've disliked a lot of players and sung against a couple of managers but nothing compares to the lying, manipulative dickhead in the dugout now. From the way he got the job to the way he's conducted himself since he has not redeeming features aside from not interfering too much in one season. How good the WC has been will only compound how much the new season doesn't spark what it used to. Particular with a lot of decent schadenfreude (a lot of football life revolves around this now) last season too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Main issue is just that we're not building any type of play for players to join & build on. Its all individual ability, we're back at the start once they go which clearly they will. Even if its fun for a season, wheres it going? The manager cant even work out corners after 3-4 seasons. De Jong & Cabella could be absolutely superb, some of the best we've ever seen & we'd just know they'll soon be off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 No interest in winning a Cup No interest in qualifying for Europe No interest in developing a squad No interest in developing young players No interest in entertaining paying fans No interest in moving the club forward a single inch. It's a pointless exercise to actively follow this club. They're like a ropey film I've muted whilst I'm doing other things, it's still ticking over in the background but I'm barely noticing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. Fair points, 2014 matches have been a struggle. I struggle with wanting us to lose, just because I dread who the replacement would be. Ashley has dug up JFK twice and tried really hard to unleash O'Leary on us. I think we'd have to be relegated for him to be sacked - if there was a guarantee Ashley and Pardew would go then I'd take it, but sadly that is not a guarantee. How are any of those choices worse than Pardew though? I mean he's less obviously embarrassing but as a manager he's the fucking pitts, can't think of anyone worse. So you would take JFK over Pardew? I don't like Pardew, but that is absurd. O'Leary, well, after brummie's review of him I'm pleased we avoided him. The grass isn't always greener but when your grass is covered in shit anyway beggars can't be choosers I suppose. I dont want Kinnear, I just don't understand being scared of any alternatives. Even with Kinnear IMO the only way he's worse is that he's no good at convincing people he isn't shit, which apparently Pardew has a fucking PHD in. Make no mistake 99% of the grass is greener. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Main issue is just that we're not building any type of play for players to join & build on. Its all individual ability, we're back at the start once they go which clearly they will. Even if its fun for a season, wheres it going? The manager cant even work out corners after 3-4 seasons. De Jong & Cabella could be absolutely superb, some of the best we've ever seen & we'd just know they'll soon be off. The fact nee cunt knows where Cabella or de Jong are liable to play speaks volumes, especially when the "manager" changes his formation every time we get beat to try and avoid finger pointing and blame next time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Have we lined up his replacement yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Oh I mean he's absolutely sub human scum and the excuse that nobody better would come is not a reason any PL manager should be in a job. In an ideal world some up and coming manager with ambition will takeover, in many ways it is gutting that Ashley has given this fuckwit money to spend when it could have been somebody far more competent, but such is life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Maybe I'm a sap but a couple of more signings like this (forwards, mainly) and I'll be looking forward to our games next season. Yes, the manager is a turd and the owner isn't doing things the way we would like but I'm not capable of ignoring the club. Watching us, following us, match day - it's what Saturday's/weekends are all about, and it's all very well saying that you'll get involved again when the ownership changes but what if it never does? What if the next owner is like Cellino at Leeds or Tan at Cardiff? Obviously they are extreme examples and both complete lunatics but it could happen. I can understand not wanting to fuel Ashley's fortune and I don't support him in the slightest, but the prospect of not having that match day to look forward to is unfathomable to me. In many ways, the club have me by the balls and Ashley knows that. The Pardew thing has been done to death but it has been shown that if the players are good enough they can override his shitness, so more players of this ilk the better. In 6 months I'll no doubt be moaning that he is being played too deep/on the bench but that's future me's problem. Matchdays towards the end of last season were the pits. Days of dread then 90 minutes of wanting Newcastle to lose. That's why I packed it in. Still feels shite but the thought of watching an Alan Pardew team feels worse. That hasn't changed. First day, I'll be hoping for a City win. I want the best for NUFC and at present that is getting humiliated every game until he's gone. Fair points, 2014 matches have been a struggle. I struggle with wanting us to lose, just because I dread who the replacement would be. Ashley has dug up JFK twice and tried really hard to unleash O'Leary on us. I think we'd have to be relegated for him to be sacked - if there was a guarantee Ashley and Pardew would go then I'd take it, but sadly that is not a guarantee. How are any of those choices worse than Pardew though? I mean he's less obviously embarrassing but as a manager he's the fucking pitts, can't think of anyone worse. So you would take JFK over Pardew? I don't like Pardew, but that is absurd. O'Leary, well, after brummie's review of him I'm pleased we avoided him. The grass isn't always greener but when your grass is covered in shit anyway beggars can't be choosers I suppose. I dont want Kinnear, I just don't understand being scared of any alternatives. Even with Kinnear IMO the only way he's worse is that he's no good at convincing people he isn't shit, which apparently Pardew has a fucking PHD in. Make no mistake 99% of the grass is greener. In many ways that's better though, when Kinnear was boss/associated with the club we were an active joke. At least now we're only a joke to ourselves, everybody else has been blinded by Pardew's bullshit. As you say, seemingly Pardew can convince players he's not a total cunt, something Kinnear would probably struggle in. Jesus, this is grim no matter what way you look at it. Welcome Cabella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Oh I mean he's absolutely sub human scum and the excuse that nobody better would come is not a reason any PL manager should be in a job. In an ideal world some up and coming manager with ambition will takeover, in many ways it is gutting that Ashley has given this fuckwit money to spend when it could have been somebody far more competent, but such is life. He hasn't given Pardew any money though, it would have been better if he had, it would have been somehow worse to watch but at least he would have dug his own grave by now. At the moment, he's got Carr doing all the donkey work and Pardew coming along every season and whinging about it, stamping his feet until he gets a fresh crop of international players to ruin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 No interest in winning a Cup No interest in qualifying for Europe No interest in developing a squad No interest in developing young players No interest in entertaining paying fans No interest in moving the club forward a single inch. It's a pointless exercise to actively follow this club. They're like a ropey film I've muted whilst I'm doing other things, it's still ticking over in the background but I'm barely noticing it. This right here, this is it in a nutshell (unfortunately) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Oh I mean he's absolutely sub human scum and the excuse that nobody better would come is not a reason any PL manager should be in a job. In an ideal world some up and coming manager with ambition will takeover, in many ways it is gutting that Ashley has given this fuckwit money to spend when it could have been somebody far more competent, but such is life. He hasn't given Pardew any money though, it would have been better if he had, it would have been somehow worse watch but at least he would have dug his own grave by now. At the moment, he's got Carr doing all the donkey work and Pardew coming along every season and whinging about it, stamping his feet until he gets a fresh crop of international players to ruin. Well let's not split hairs. We have spent some money for the first time in 18 months was the main point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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