Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 In some positions I agree they can yeah but a winger relies on instinct and unpredictability and playing off the cuff. He's 27 too, I don't see what will change with him under a different manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 In some positions I agree they can yeah but a winger relies on instinct and unpredictability and playing off the cuff. He's 27 too, I don't see what will change with him under a different manager So you're telling me that someone like Sissoko or Bolasie wouldn't improve under an attacking minded coach like Guardiola? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 In some positions I agree they can yeah but a winger relies on instinct and unpredictability and playing off the cuff. He's 27 too, I don't see what will change with him under a different manager So Hatem didn't improve playing under Claude Puel rather than Steve Bruce, as a quick example? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Bravo will be City's #1, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 In some positions I agree they can yeah but a winger relies on instinct and unpredictability and playing off the cuff. He's 27 too, I don't see what will change with him under a different manager I don't think Sissoko is a winger but of course it's easier to be a winger when your are playing under a better manager. You can get on the ball in better areas without the need to run past about 3 players to get to the byline like Sissoko has for most of his time here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Someone like Sissoko no I don't see how he would as he just Dosent have enough natural talent. I can see how they would improve a players contributon to a team through tactical awareness etc but in terms of actual footballing ability and technique you have it or you don't. And with Ben arfa he just wasn't bothered at Hull. He's always had the talent to tear it up if he wanted too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Just my opinion. Andros has more end product. He's not as skilful or quick but he's better in the final third. He was never actually 100% fit for us and still finished something like 3rd highest scorer or thereabouts. I agree, and if he can get to full fitness and a tad leaner would be better than Bolasie. Bolasie is a bit like a Sissoko type winger, big power, fast but rarely scores. Me personally would take a fully fit Townsend over Bolasie. Each to their own though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Someone like Sissoko no I don't see how he would as he just Dosent have enough natural talent. I can see how they would improve a players contributon to a team through tactical awareness etc but in terms of actual footballing ability and technique you have it or you don't. And with Ben arfa he just wasn't bothered at Hull. He's always had the talent to tear it up if he wanted too But surely you're contradicting yourself there, you're saying that plays can't improve footballing ability, but also saying that a manager can improve them tactically, which would then improve there overall footballing ability. For example, if a manager was to teach someone like Sissoko, when put in a cross, or to cut back and play it someone on the edge of the box, surely thats both improving him both tactically and his overall footballing ability? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Bolasie is way better than Townsend IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Seems delightful Manchester City are to sign Claudio Bravo for irrelevant fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Sign a decent fullback and a better striker than Bony for when Aguero eventually cripples himself and they'll win the league. Watford have agreed a deal with Juve for Pereyra. Not bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Just my opinion. Andros has more end product. He's not as skilful or quick but he's better in the final third. He was never actually 100% fit for us and still finished something like 3rd highest scorer or thereabouts. I agree, and if he can get to full fitness and a tad leaner would be better than Bolasie. Bolasie is a bit like a Sissoko type winger, big power, fast but rarely scores. Me personally would take a fully fit Townsend over Bolasie. Each to their own though. Can't believe you compared Bolasie to Sissoko as similar wingers. That is shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Munir and Samper off to Valencia with Barca retaining a buy-back clause on both players. Diego Alves and Alcacer going the other way on permanent deals. Utterly shit for Valencia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Munir and Samper off to Valencia with Barca retaining a buy-back clause on both players. Diego Alves and Alcacer going the other way on permanent deals. Utterly s*** for Valencia. What the fuck is this shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 What's the fee? Valencia had such a good crop of promising talent. Despite losing some big players Barca have had a fantastic window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Palace have £23 mil bid for Benteke rejected according to Sky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 What's the fee? Valencia had such a good crop of promising talent. Despite losing some big players Barca have had a fantastic window. Other than Alves who have they lost? Genuine question, I haven't been keeping up at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 What's the fee? Valencia had such a good crop of promising talent. Despite losing some big players Barca have had a fantastic window. Other than Alves who have they lost? Genuine question, I haven't been keeping up at all. Andre Gomes and possibly Alcacer no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Was on about Barca, thought TCD was saying they have lost some big players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 What's the fee? Valencia had such a good crop of promising talent. Despite losing some big players Barca have had a fantastic window. Other than Alves who have they lost? Genuine question, I haven't been keeping up at all. Andre Gomes and possibly Alcacer no? Aye, those two. Feghouli too. Even though he sucked last season Negredo as well. I don't know who they have signed. But I remember last year looking at that squad, decent mix of experience and youth and thought a good manager would have these battling for CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Valencia then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm very confused Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm very confused I am as well after actually reading TCDs post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Let's try and clear this up. Who have Barca lost other than Alves!? Bravo maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I'm talking about Valencia and Diego Alves. Barcelona - Dani Alves and Bravo. 2 excellent performers over the last 2 years imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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