Jack Colback (now a free agent)

[Mole_Toonfan]

I thought Colback had good miles ran/workrate stats?

 

Dunno was just responding to Ian's post, should have quoted it in hindsight.

[Dr Venkman]

It has no bearing on how poor he is. That goes without saying. Just adds another dimension to how he is perceived, on top of being a bang average overrated player.

 

Yeah, I'm sure it does. What I mean is that it shouldn't really be held against him.

 

It shouldn't be held against him that he went out of his way to antagonise fans of the club he supports?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It has no bearing on how poor he is. That goes without saying. Just adds another dimension to how he is perceived, on top of being a bang average overrated player.

 

Yeah, I'm sure it does. What I mean is that it shouldn't really be held against him.

 

It shouldn't be held against him that he went out of his way to antagonise fans of the club he supports?

 

Not really, he was a Sunderland player then. Ideally no player would act like that, but to me it's not a major issue.

[STM]

I thought Colback had good miles ran/workrate stats?

 

Dunno was just responding to Ian's post, should have quoted it in hindsight.

 

Like I say, I'm not sure but if a stats wizard can find them I'd be interested.

[taxfree]

It has no bearing on how poor he is. That goes without saying. Just adds another dimension to how he is perceived, on top of being a bang average overrated player.

 

Yeah, I'm sure it does. What I mean is that it shouldn't really be held against him.

 

It's not a huge deal per se, but don't know why it shouldn't. By all means, celebrate goals. It's just how he did it. Especially as a self-proclaimed Newcastle fan.

[Dr Venkman]

It has no bearing on how poor he is. That goes without saying. Just adds another dimension to how he is perceived, on top of being a bang average overrated player.

 

Yeah, I'm sure it does. What I mean is that it shouldn't really be held against him.

 

It shouldn't be held against him that he went out of his way to antagonise fans of the club he supports?

 

Not really, he was a Sunderland player then. Ideally no player would act like that, but to me it's not a major issue.

 

Well it's not a major issue for me either, I struggle to think of anything NUFC related that I can put in that category tbh, other than Mike Ashley. It just means we know he's an arsehole, behaviour like that will rightly be held against him.

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

He's such a passenger at times its unreal, speaking strictly defensively he either stays out of the way when the other side is on the attack (hes an expert at this) or goes in half hearted and clips whoever breezes past him like hes not there.

 

In terms of his actual passing its decent and crisp enough when its backwards or sidewards but he neither has the vision nor the passing range to execute anything resembling a cutting through ball or an inventive cross field pass etc...

 

You will notice whenever he does execute a decent through ball its usually a deflection, a bobble or just sheer luck that takes it through to the forward man, every now and then he does pop up with a decent ball though, and his long range shooting is one of the best in the squad, which is more of a damning statement of how poor 90% of our team is at shooting in general.

 

He is so popular at the club and the average fan loves him mainly because he never makes any glaring mistakes and the perceived geordie passion that he has, both can be explained by the fact that he never attempts anything remotely out of the ordinary to risk making a mistake and personally I don't see this "passion" everyone speaks of, has the occasional moan at the ref, but apart from that what does he do but back keep out of the way and lay the ball off?

 

I don't pretend to be any kind of expert on football but that's how I see it, and generally when you ask anyone what's good about him, they can't give you a straight answer other than hes "solid" or "tidy" or "got good work rate"

 

Fuck that.

 

 

[The College Dropout]

Anita's played more preseason minutes than him, hasn't he? Interesting if that's the case. Think we'll initially see Colback-Anita but will quickly be phased out for Wijnaldum to drop deeper.

Side passing-tastic.

 

Never forget how these lads made N'Zonzi look like a 27 year old Patrick Vieira.

[The College Dropout]

I would agree with most of that. Although out of our central midfielders  besides the new lads - he's most likely to play an incisive pass. He's by no means good at it but among the best we have.

 

I think the same generally applies for Anita too, and he receives half the stick on here.

 

I hope under McClaren the hiding stops. Although I think a large part of it is down to both of them struggling to get around the pitch in the same way YoCabs would struggle.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Really hope we never see Colback-Anita tbh, it's crap and Wijnaldum was miles better when he moved to CM against Gladbach.

[The College Dropout]

Really hope we never see Colback-Anita tbh, it's crap and Wijnaldum was miles better when he moved to CM against Gladbach.

 

Awful. Maybe it will change under McClaren but generally it was sideways passing and struggling to cover ground defensively.

[Gallowgate Toon]

Really hope we never see Colback-Anita tbh, it's crap and Wijnaldum was miles better when he moved to CM against Gladbach.

 

It's totally crap. I just expect that's what we'll see for the first few games.

[Guest palnese]

It has no bearing on how poor he is. That goes without saying. Just adds another dimension to how he is perceived, on top of being a bang average overrated player.

 

Yeah, I'm sure it does. What I mean is that it shouldn't really be held against him.

 

It's not a huge deal per se, but don't know why it shouldn't. By all means, celebrate goals. It's just how he did it. Especially as a self-proclaimed Newcastle fan.

 

Shearer went mental when he scored against us for Blackburn. Just saying.

[TRon]

I thought Colback had good miles ran/workrate stats?

 

 

 

It doesn't make much difference how long or hard you run if you are doing it slower than your opponent. He couldn't get anywhere near N'zonzi against Stoke for example, because N'zonzi was just far too quick. What difference does it make if he jogged around for a bit longer?

[Disco]

It has no bearing on how poor he is. That goes without saying. Just adds another dimension to how he is perceived, on top of being a bang average overrated player.

 

Yeah, I'm sure it does. What I mean is that it shouldn't really be held against him.

 

It's not a huge deal per se, but don't know why it shouldn't. By all means, celebrate goals. It's just how he did it. Especially as a self-proclaimed Newcastle fan.

 

Shearer went mental when he scored against us for Blackburn. Just saying.

 

He did but he ran to the Blackburn fans in the corner instead of the home fans. Unlike Colback he probably knew it wouldn't be the highlight of his career though.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I thought Colback had good miles ran/workrate stats?

 

It doesn't make much difference how long or hard you run if you are doing it slower than your opponent. He couldn't get anywhere near N'zonzi against Stoke for example, because N'zonzi was just far too quick. What difference does it make if he jogged around for a bit longer?

 

No doubt Colback's 'Km run' or whatever looks very high, the problem is he never does it to any effect.

[TRon]

He's such a passenger at times its unreal, speaking strictly defensively he either stays out of the way when the other side is on the attack (hes an expert at this) or goes in half hearted and clips whoever breezes past him like hes not there.

 

In terms of his actual passing its decent and crisp enough when its backwards or sidewards but he neither has the vision nor the passing range to execute anything resembling a cutting through ball or an inventive cross field pass etc...

 

You will notice whenever he does execute a decent through ball its usually a deflection, a bobble or just sheer luck that takes it through to the forward man, every now and then he does pop up with a decent ball though, and his long range shooting is one of the best in the squad, which is more of a damning statement of how poor 90% of our team is at shooting in general.

 

He is so popular at the club and the average fan loves him mainly because he never makes any glaring mistakes and the perceived geordie passion that he has, both can be explained by the fact that he never attempts anything remotely out of the ordinary to risk making a mistake and personally I don't see this "passion" everyone speaks of, has the occasional moan at the ref, but apart from that what does he do but back keep out of the way and lay the ball off?

 

I don't pretend to be any kind of expert on football but that's how I see it, and generally when you ask anyone what's good about him, they can't give you a straight answer other than hes "solid" or "tidy" or "got good work rate"

 

Fuck that.

 

 

 

Pretty well summed up. Also once he's passed it, you never see him making a move forward for the return pass, he just stops and thinks job done. His movement is generally negative which would be fine if he was an out and out defensive midfielder, but since he's usually playing alongside a defensive midfielder in Anita or Tiote, I'm not sure what his role is.

[Deuce]

He's a total midfield passenger who hides more often than not. He's got a hell of a lot of work to do to convince me he's even an average PL central midfielder.

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

FFS man he does nowt other than chase the ball like an excitable puppy.

[Astroblack]

I dunno about that. He kinda picks his spots, pre season anyway. Everytime he got the ball, it'd dropped to him as he was in the right place. I wish he did a little more chasing tbh.

[themanupstairs]

I don't hate him as much as I hate the fact that he was a nailed on starter. I'd give him less stick if he was treated in the same way some of our other players are treated. You can almost guarantee that he wouldn't be dropped no matter how awful his form was. That's the worrying thing for me.

[samptime29]

He's such a passenger at times its unreal, speaking strictly defensively he either stays out of the way when the other side is on the attack (hes an expert at this) or goes in half hearted and clips whoever breezes past him like hes not there.

 

In terms of his actual passing its decent and crisp enough when its backwards or sidewards but he neither has the vision nor the passing range to execute anything resembling a cutting through ball or an inventive cross field pass etc...

 

You will notice whenever he does execute a decent through ball its usually a deflection, a bobble or just sheer luck that takes it through to the forward man, every now and then he does pop up with a decent ball though, and his long range shooting is one of the best in the squad, which is more of a damning statement of how poor 90% of our team is at shooting in general.

 

He is so popular at the club and the average fan loves him mainly because he never makes any glaring mistakes and the perceived geordie passion that he has, both can be explained by the fact that he never attempts anything remotely out of the ordinary to risk making a mistake and personally I don't see this "passion" everyone speaks of, has the occasional moan at the ref, but apart from that what does he do but back keep out of the way and lay the ball off?

 

I don't pretend to be any kind of expert on football but that's how I see it, and generally when you ask anyone what's good about him, they can't give you a straight answer other than hes "solid" or "tidy" or "got good work rate"

 

f*** that.

 

Well written post. I'm not 100% agreeing with it, but you do make some valid points. Much better post than just calling him a f***ing ginger c***.

 

I'm not convinced Colback is good enough for a 2 man centre midfield, but I certainly think he can be useful for in a 3 man centre midfield, and he can play full-back if we have bad injury crisis.

 

I just feel we've got more pressing issues (getting rid of Wilko, Gouffran has to be No.1 priority).

 

We still need more strength in CB and up front, and ideally on the wing.

[taxfree]

I don't hate him as much as I hate the fact that he was a nailed on starter. I'd give him less stick if he was treated in the same way some of our other players are treated. You can almost guarantee that he wouldn't be dropped no matter how awful his form was. That's the worrying thing for me.

 

[STM]

I thought Colback had good miles ran/workrate stats?

 

 

 

It doesn't make much difference how long or hard you run if you are doing it slower than your opponent. He couldn't get anywhere near N'zonzi against Stoke for example, because N'zonzi was just far too quick. What difference does it make if he jogged around for a bit longer?

 

It was more the "poor engine", I was picking up on. If he was running alot of miles, that would suggest his engine is fine.

 

That doesn't mean he is contributing on the pitch mind.

[KaKa]

I would agree with most of that. Although out of our central midfielders  besides the new lads - he's most likely to play an incisive pass. He's by no means good at it but among the best we have.

 

I think the same generally applies for Anita too, and he receives half the stick on here.

 

I hope under McClaren the hiding stops. Although I think a large part of it is down to both of them struggling to get around the pitch in the same way YoCabs would struggle.

 

The difference is that Anita is a defensive midfielder that is supposed to be recycling possession and he does a far better job of constantly showing for the ball and continuing to move into space when he is not in possession. When defending Anita pressures the opposition far more effectively like he is supposed to.

 

Colback is not a DM and so he should not constantly sit as deep as he does right next to Anita. He also shouldn't get the ball and continuously give it back to Anita, or even worse go back to the defenders, which he constantly does. He also does not press the opposition anywhere near as effectively.

 

Rubbish player. How we ever allowed him to score against us really is beyond me. More evidence of the hopelessness of Pardew.