Hanshithispantz Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Prety sure I saw a another stat on Messi - losing the ball more than any other player in the Argentina/Bosnia game. Would love to see Pardew justify not playing Messi due to lack of keeping the ball That Bosnia game was the perfect example of why it's utterly retarded to bring off your best and most unpredictable player at half time if he's having a sub-par game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Messi was pretty rubbish first half but yes, it's precisely why you don't do that. Hatem's the same, could lose the ball 5 times in a row but on the 6th will create/score a worldy. Argentina are set-up for this exactly. Strangely enough, with our constant back 6/7, so are we, but it doesn't pan out like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Pardew's a fucking idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Messi was pretty rubbish first half but yes, it's precisely why you don't do that. Hatem's the same, could lose the ball 5 times in a row but on the 6th will create/score a worldy. Argentina are set-up for this exactly. Strangely enough, with our constant back 6/7, so are we, but it doesn't pan out like that. Yep, this is the weirdest thing. In theory a match-winner like Ben Arfa is exactly what Pardew's hyper-cautious approach actually needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I didn't see the game on Sunday but from experience, if Messi gives the ball away it's in around the area trying to play intricate 1-2s and things like that. Ben Arfa is often down to decision making, taking on one too many, over running it for a goal kick, not playing the simple available pass. No excuse for why HBA shouldn't be in the team, he'd be first name on team sheet, but the Messi stat comparison is silly imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Messi was pretty rubbish first half but yes, it's precisely why you don't do that. Hatem's the same, could lose the ball 5 times in a row but on the 6th will create/score a worldy. Argentina are set-up for this exactly. Strangely enough, with our constant back 6/7, so are we, but it doesn't pan out like that. Yep, this is the weirdest thing. In theory a match-winner like Ben Arfa is exactly what Pardew's hyper-cautious approach actually needs. That's the thing, though, his best position by far is RW and a defensive manager like Pardew won't let his RB get exposed like that. On the other hand, if you play him centrally/off the striker he's certainly not a match winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I didn't see the game on Sunday but from experience, if Messi gives the ball away it's in around the area trying to play intricate 1-2s and things like that. Ben Arfa is often down to decision making, taking on one too many, over running it for a goal kick, not playing the simple available pass. No excuse for why HBA shouldn't be in the team, he'd be first name on team sheet, but the Messi stat comparison is silly imo. That's exactly what Messi was doing in the Argie game. He was losing everything, looked way off the boil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Ben Arfa also failed to reach his full potential last term and endured some shocking performances at Southampton, Everton and at home to Spurs. He was brought on when we were 2-0 down to try and save the king. Almost certain HBA created more chances than any other player (4iirc) when he came on too. Some of the s*** that gets peddled is f***ing nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Our favourite Facebook person is back: http://i.imgur.com/xlzOz9s.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dinho lad Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Dat booty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 It would be great if he could be re-integrated but more than likely he will be told to train with the kids in pre-season training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 "They call me lazy... I call me inventive" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I hope that he's kept himself fit this summer and that he comes back and shows Pardew exactly what he is capable of, otherwise we are going to lose the only player we have with real technical ability and talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 He could be in the absolute best shape of his life and he'd still start the City game on the fucking bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 There's no way back for him under Pardew. Don't kid yourself to think so otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 'Let's put all this be'oind us, Atam, chim chiminy, chim chiminy, chim chim cheree' 'I can neveur forgeeve you, Alain' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I hope that he's kept himself fit this summer and that he comes back and shows Pardew exactly what he is capable of, otherwise we are going to lose the only player we have with real technical ability and talent. Gosling is already gone. You have to let go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 There's no way back for him under Pardew. Don't kid yourself to think so otherwise. the absolute best case for HBA is that he forces himself in when thrown on as a sub a la that mackems game, he'd then get until our next crushing defeat whereupon he'd be immediately dropped as pardew's scapegoat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 There's no way back for him under Pardew. Don't kid yourself to think so otherwise. Aye, we'll not see him again in a Newcastle shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Hope for his sake he leaves. Would be better of at Gitmo compared his situation now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 There's no way back for him under Pardew. Don't kid yourself to think so otherwise. Pards would like to think that, but Ashley won't give him away, and after losing Remy and Cabaye we don't have a lot of players who can create much from nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if after a month of sterile football he wasn't back in the team tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 There's no way back for him under Pardew. Don't kid yourself to think so otherwise. Pards would like to think that, but Ashley won't give him away, and after losing Remy and Cabaye we don't have a lot of players who can create much from nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if after a month of sterile football he wasn't back in the team tbh. We struggled to create anything in the 2nd half of last season and had regular 3-0, 4-0 trashings. Didn't see Ashley ordering Pardew to play Hatem then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 There's no way back for him under Pardew. Don't kid yourself to think so otherwise. Pards would like to think that, but Ashley won't give him away, and after losing Remy and Cabaye we don't have a lot of players who can create much from nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if after a month of sterile football he wasn't back in the team tbh. We struggled to create anything in the 2nd half of last season and had regular 3-0, 4-0 trashings. Didn't see Ashley ordering Pardew to play Hatem then. Ashley still won't order Pardew to play Hatem, but apparently De Jong is not exactly a creator, so the side looks pretty sterile from that POV. Maybe we'll sign Cabella to fix that, but as it stands, we don't have any alternative options to provide what HBA does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Good luck with that. As it stands, both sides have pretty much burnt their bridges imo. It's one or the other, and we all know who the money is on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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