MarkyMark Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Honestly a six month stint to save us from relegation would be the stuff dreams are made of and would make him an all time legend. Probably my favourite NUFC player of all time, in terms of how much I enjoyed his style of football. He could defo do a job like 34 year old Peter Beardsley did in the early Keegan years, right? Even if as a playmaker number 10 type. Has he even been linked? Beardsley did more than a job - even on his return he was the best player I've ever seen at Newcastle - but he was also a better footballer and a much, much more professional athlete than HBA. The two are not really comparable - Beardsley wasn't just a mercurial talent; he was the hardest working player on the pitch. I'm convinced he'd have won the Balon D'Or and European Cups if English teams weren't banned from European competition during his peak years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Personally I don't think ASM's even in the same league as HBA. He's more of a trickster, but that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 On 03/07/2021 at 22:48, Yorkie said: Would have him back in a heartbeat if by some miracle everything changed for the better this summer. I assume he's well on his way down at this point but the point is to feel and enjoy the people who are associated with your club. I'd enjoy Hatem. Stand by this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Someone needs to tell Amanda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 "Today they shout - 'go, go, go, take him on, take him on- you know you can fly - you go and you try. It's a pleasure to play in front of our supporters." When I think of Ben Arfa, I always think of that quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, GWN said: Someone needs to tell Amanda I'll get a powerpoint prepared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Why is this thread at the top? Are we signing him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Heron said: That's fair. From a purely objective stance, I think he had a bit more end product than ASM but ASM is arguably a more skilful dribbler of the ball, despite not being technically as good. I think if we had a similar quality team to then, now, ASM would be loved a similar way, but fankly we're well away from that level at present. Ultimately though, both are FIFA street ballers with a showman attitude in a team game, playing for a club where luxuries cannot be afforded and they need to learn to do more to 'fit' the needs of the team rather than have the team 'fit' their own (personal) needs. ASM looks like a dog chasing a balloon compared to HBA man. There’s plenty you can go after HBA for but his dribbling is just not it. HBA had a much better shot on in him, much better awareness and much better passer of the ball. I like ASM but he’s not HBA man, no way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Amir_9 said: I was there at St. James' when he scored that goal against Bolton - still remains to be one of the most edge of my seat moments I have experienced going to games. On his day he was the definition of scintillating. The lad had a thunderbastard of a strike on him and some canny tricks - the people who didn't like him were based on his supposed attitude and selfishness but players like him are naturally "selfish" for lack of a better word because they have the skill and magic to make something out of nothing. Yep, me too, best NUFC goal I’ve seen live, no question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said: ASM looks like a dog chasing a balloon compared to HBA man. There’s plenty you can go after HBA for but his dribbling is just not it. HBA had a much better shot on in him, much better awareness and much better passer of the ball. I like ASM but he’s not HBA man, no way. Hardly 'going after' Ben Arfa's dribbling... I'm merely saying ASM is more skilful at dribbling, which he is. It doesn't mean he's as effective. HBA was a more effective dribbler because he didn't do unnecessary posturing or tricks. However, he wasn't as skilful. Was definitely on the money when I said this forum had a HBA cult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Heron said: Hardly 'going after' Ben Arfa's dribbling... I'm merely saying ASM is more skilful at dribbling, which he is. It doesn't mean he's as effective. HBA was a more effective dribbler because he didn't do unnecessary posturing or tricks. However, he wasn't as skilful. Was definitely on the money when I said this forum had a HBA cult I would say ASM does more tricks but HBA was more direct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, r0cafella said: I would say ASM does more tricks but HBA was more direct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said: Yep, me too, best NUFC goal I’ve seen live, no question. I think I preferred his one at home to Villa the following season. It was like an absolute rocket and it was with his right peg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Always love how people play down the Bolton goal as ‘all he did was run in a straight line’. If it was that easy we’d see goals like that every week, I don’t think I’ve seen one like it. The balance, pace, composure. Personally prefer it to the Blackburn one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Let’s just get the Gang of 5th back. What are Yohan Kebab and Demba Ba upto these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 42 minutes ago, Heron said: Hardly 'going after' Ben Arfa's dribbling... I'm merely saying ASM is more skilful at dribbling, which he is. It doesn't mean he's as effective. HBA was a more effective dribbler because he didn't do unnecessary posturing or tricks. However, he wasn't as skilful. Was definitely on the money when I said this forum had a HBA cult I think you’re wrong and I respectfully disagree. On behalf of the cult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 More skilful at dribbling FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: I think I preferred his one at home to Villa the following season. It was like an absolute rocket and it was with his right peg. Aye saw that one as well. Great, not as good as the Bolton one IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Always love how people play down the Bolton goal as ‘all he did was run in a straight line’. If it was that easy we’d see goals like that every week, I don’t think I’ve seen one like it. The balance, pace, composure. Personally prefer it to the Blackburn one. The little dink over both centre halves oncoming challenges. The fact he got fouled from behind and was just ‘nah mate, I’m putting this in’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 Just now, Dr Venkman said: Aye saw that one as well. Great, not as good as the Bolton one IMO. Both great, but I prefer a screamer me to a mazy dribble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: The little dink over both centre halves oncoming challenges. The fact he got fouled from behind and was just ‘nah mate, I’m putting this in’. The initial turn to literally open up the pitch as well. Incredible skill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 6 hours ago, nufcjb said: Why is this thread at the top? Are we signing him? no we are dreaming again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: The little dink over both centre halves oncoming challenges. The fact he got fouled from behind and was just ‘nah mate, I’m putting this in’. That dink gets overlooked and dismissed as the defenders just letting him pass, that dink mugged them off and allowed him to get through otherwise he would have been tackled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I loved how he started motoring after the initial turn, just left the next man for dead in a second. On another plane from Maxi imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 19, 2022 Share Posted January 19, 2022 I do like ASM but Ben Arfa was a different level, much more graceful when it comes to dribbling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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