AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 It's not just Pardew telling De Jong to kick the ball softly, it's the general mess of a club we were when he was here. And the new league and all that. He's obviously much better than he showed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I definitely had an issue with LDJ. His gentle backpasses to the opposition keeper would've been chalked off as rustiness if we weren't direly in the need for a striker to just smash a goal or two in when he was playing. We sorely needed the points. Maybe the pressure and where we were in the league that season didn't help his confidence at all, which is me being kind to him. I'm glad he's found his feet again elsewhere. Just because a player fails in his time at one club doesn't mean he's shit at everything forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Problem is he looks soooooo slow... Really worried about this, can he cut the Prem or is he another brother of the same name... i agree with this entirely, but i only see this as a problem until the team starts to function a bit better and hopefully become a bit less shaky at the back...then it'd be no worse than having an immobile 2nd striker in a 4-4-2, thing is he'd have to weigh in with goals for it to work he should be nowhere near the pitch in games like sunday mind, not for a long while, hope mclaren gets this now Sorry, this is just wrong, he's not immobile at all man. fortunate i didn't say he was immobile then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 People can't look past Luuk and are trying to put that s*** on Siem man. My goodness. He is not too slow to play in that position, and Sunday is no reference for his game, as the team was absolute garbage once he came on. Can't believe the junk being talked about the guy man. So fickle. Luuk de Jong is doing pretty well at PSV at the moment. One would almost think our coaching setup didn't have a clue at the time on how to use him or give him confidence. I realise he didn't set the league on fire in Germany either, but he's certainly a better striker than he showed at NUFC, and I wouldn't be surprised if he still managed to prove himself in a better league in the future. As for his brother Siem, I've said he was a better version of Kevin Nolan straight from the start. He can certainly be a very useful player for us and I think he's plenty good and strong enough for the Premier League personally (he put two past Man City in the CL). Writing him off after only a few appearances like some on here are doing is incredibly harsh. Funny thing is I have no doubt that Luuk's poor showings were down to the buffoons in charge. I would have had no issue with him staying actually. He had been injured, and I doubt the preparation for him to get back into the groove was good enough. My post above was more referring to people's disappointment in Luuk at the time, and now transferring that onto Siem. I had no issue with Luuk whatsoever. I think it's a shame he never really got a chance to get into his groove here. Tbf I don't think you can blame Pardew for Luuk de Jong not being able to kick the ball with any force whatsoever It's funny that LDJ seems to be able to hit it just fine for PSV It was obviously a massive confidence issue probably from not making it in Germany rather than a lack of skill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I've seen De Jong twice this season; down at York and after coming on against Southampton. Of that pitch time, he's spent about 90% of it being completely invisible - which is a bit of a concern - but it's still early days for him and I'd hunch that he'll be a useful squad member. If Pardew was still here I'd have virtually no hope of SDJ ever being a success, because, from what we've seen so far, he doesn't appear to have a particularly defined position in the front six. Pards set his formations up totally rigidly (despite what you hear), and every single attacker we had under him that needed some form of fluidity going forward ultimately failed. McClaren, hopefully, will be better at recognising exactly what he has at his disposal. At the moment we've got a variety of attackers with different attributes - there's a good mix of styles and positions there. I don't see why De Jong can't find his place amongst that, but he'll never be an impact sub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Agree with you about him not being an impact sub, Yorkie. If he's going to come off the bench, it needs to be before the hour mark or there's little point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Think you over rate Pardews view of 'fret'. There's chaos factor fret, pace threat, bit of magic fret, tall fret. SDJ was bit of magic threat reserved for Cabaye, Ba and Prime Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Can we ban "Fret"? turns my stomach every time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Waste of fucking money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Crocktastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Release the cunt ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felling Mag Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hearing one or two rumours he's spat his dummy out about not starting. Probably bull shit though based on his history of injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hearing one or two rumours he's spat his dummy out about not starting. Probably bull shit though based on his history of injuries. Imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 glue factory pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Just last week De Jong was talking about coming back stronger from his injury set-back. “I’ve trained a lot, especially in the first half of last season when I had the injury,” he said. “I came back stronger and got the other injury. That drained a lot of energy out of me – I lost a lot of weight. It was hard to recover, and I think I did well.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hearing one or two rumours he's spat his dummy out about not starting. Probably bull s*** though based on his history of injuries. Ryder (I know!) alluded to one or two not being happy missing out just the other day so maybe people reading into that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hearing one or two rumours he's spat his dummy out about not starting. Probably bull s*** though based on his history of injuries. Ryder (I know!) alluded to one or two not being happy missing out just the other day so maybe people reading into that. Why would anyone be happy to be on the bench? I'd expect and hope that players who are on the fringe the starting eleven to not be happy if they are on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hearing one or two rumours he's spat his dummy out about not starting. Probably bull s*** though based on his history of injuries. Ryder (I know!) alluded to one or two not being happy missing out just the other day so maybe people reading into that. Why would anyone be happy to be on the bench? I'd expect and hope that players who are on the fringe the starting eleven to not be happy if they are on the bench. There's a difference between being unhappy being on the bench and being unprofessional and refusing to sit on it. The tone of the article seemed to suggest the later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Shin complaint apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Waiting for the "out for the season" news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 We'll never see this guy have an extended run. Ajax must be absolutely pissing their pants laughing at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 We'll never see this guy run. Fyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 He was a very good player once. Shame. Even if he can learn to walk again without his bones crumbling to dust then injuries will still have taken their toll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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