NEEJ Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 He'll be nothing but a failure in his current role here. Pumping long balls up to him is pointless when he doesn't win the majority of headers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 He's a more (positionally) advanced Obertan. Awful signing so far, offers nothing in this current setup and i suspect an average prem striker/forward if everything was ideal and offered on a plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 A player like this should never be a starter. He should be allowed time to bed in, coming on as a sub, working to get his confidence up which is crucial given his limitations. As it is he's isolated up front and all the pressure is on him to get the goals ffs. I mean you couldn't make it up It's awful, truly awful player management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Thrown into the deep end, and then some. It'd be nice if Pardew told him to get defenders on the turn rather than having to be the bloke that constantly has to show for the ball and try to play teammates in from dinked long balls. de Jong should be the link man but he was seemingly told to push right up, yesterday. He displayed a great touch and acceleration at one point in the second half., if he's going to be a success here, we're going to have to play to those sorts of strengths. That means a proper game plan would be needed, though, so expect more aimless shit for the foreseeable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I feel bad for judging him so early, but I had to constantly remind myself that he was on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Lone strikers need people breaking from deep to support them though. I'm not convinced by him yet but when we're not giving him any support and not getting any decent numbers forward it's hard to judge him. One thing that stood out for me last night was that when Palace were breaking forward they had 5 or 6 players up there going for the box and supporting the attack. When we did the same we had maybe 3 if we were lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 not impressed - but our attacking play is the worst ever!!! De Jong was horrible as well. I blame Pardew! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 As others say, impossible to judge him based on playing under Pardew. He's ploughing a lonely furrow. Pardew wants some athletic big man up there that he can lump long balls to, and Riviere is the closest we have. Ayoze might well be a better footballer, but he's be even worse under our system than Riviere as he's too small and would still have to suffer getting footballs with ice on them raining down from the clouds. Yet Perez has still done more in our shirt than Riviere. But Perez has come on during the last 20 mins usually when the game is a lot more open and we are pushing forward more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 What hope does he have at the minute? He's isolated and getting shit floated passes lumped up to him. I feel sorry for him at the minute, he's got no hope in this system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Mint to see this guy has been utterly written off by you guys already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Surely anyone who went to the match yesterday could see the type of balls he was feeding off? He must be sick of his life already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Mint to see this guy has been utterly written off by you guys already Written off in terms of can contribute? No Written off in terms of can score 20 goals per season? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 There's no doubt he's getting shit service, but he's offering virtually nothing. Ba and Remy also got shit service but still managed to create things for themselves - might be harsh to compare him to them but as things stand he's our main man up front, and if that doesn't change in the next 24 hours or so we're utterly fucked. Unless somehow Cisse comes back and remembers where the goal is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Mint to see this guy has been utterly written off by you guys already Written off in terms of can contribute? No Written off in terms of can score 20 goals per season? Yes. The vast majority of players in the league won't score 20 goals per season. Anyone thinking Riviere could do that is mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Mint to see this guy has been utterly written off by you guys already Written off in terms of can contribute? No Written off in terms of can score 20 goals per season? Yes. The vast majority of players in the league won't score 20 goals per season. Anyone thinking Riviere could do that is mental. Looks like I haven't written him off then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 As others say, impossible to judge him based on playing under Pardew. He's ploughing a lonely furrow. Pardew wants some athletic big man up there that he can lump long balls to, and Riviere is the closest we have. Ayoze might well be a better footballer, but he's be even worse under our system than Riviere as he's too small and would still have to suffer getting footballs with ice on them raining down from the clouds. Yet Perez has still done more in our shirt than Riviere. But Perez has come on during the last 20 mins usually when the game is a lot more open and we are pushing forward more. Pushing. Forward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Mint to see this guy has been utterly written off by you guys already There's nothing in his career that suggests he's the player we need. Nowt wrong with saying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 if he was paired with Remy or Lacazette is he a much better player ? History would say yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 needs to improve his positional play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 20 goals? From what I've seen he'll not hit double figures in all comps, well be lucky to see 5 league goals from him unless we bag a new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 if he was paired with Remy or Lacazette is he a much better player ? History would say yes What would his purpose be alongside either of them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Surely anyone who went to the match yesterday could see the type of balls he was feeding off? He must be sick of his life already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Surely anyone who went to the match yesterday could see the type of balls he was feeding off? He must be sick of his life already. Aye the 'quality' of 'service' he gets is fucking disgusting like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Beyond shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Falcao would look "beyond shit" as you put it in our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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