Geordie Ahmed Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Don't think he is as bad as some are saying, he has some decent hold up play, looks fairly quick and strong BUT he has been massively isolated, he is not the kind of player that can create things out of nothing, he needs others around him rather than the vast spaces we currently have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We have the same conversations every season no matter what players we have. Strikers are isolated, Cabella has no movement around him off the ball, it's the same thing over and over and that tells me it's not the players that are to blame. Riviere may or may not be a good striker but I very much doubt we'll get a realistic look at him until we our coaching and tactics change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 All the reports seemed to suggest he struggled massively for Monaco without Falcao playing, and that's in the French league with James Rodriguez and Moutinho in midfield behind him. Willing to give him a chance but there's very little to suggest he's PL quality so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is never going to score 20 goals in a season, with the right tactics I could see him get 10-12 a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Not impressed with him thus far, even when factoring in Pardew's abysmal tactics. Will be surprised if he gets to double figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We could have Shearer in his prime and not score in a month with these tactics. Pardews team talk is "careful" forward play is too dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Problem is the lad might have something but immediately it's all down to him, loads of pressure and he's extremely isolated up front. We don't have any other options so the lad is really going to start feeling it soon, a ridiculous scenario as per usual at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I mean, we've been through the "don't write them off early" thing so many times now that it's silly that it even needs to be mentioned. The kid has tools and is still adapting to the league. Let's give him more than two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Thought he did alright, just no support, services or chances. He will be sick of playing for is in a couple of weeks. He looked sick after about 15 mins today. Still, at least those who are always moaning about Cisse might realise playing as an isolated striker with no service is a pretty thankless task with this tosser as a manager. Bang on, sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is an average player (which is what he always has been) had a below average today. I believe he will score a decent amount because he is an acceptable finisher, but is not the type that just carries a side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's not unknown for a new player to the EPL to take a whole season to adjust, a canny manager that knows a player has something about him persists and gives him that chance. After two games I can't say whether this lad has anything about him or not, there could be a number of factors affecting him. What I am fairly sure of is he will never show his true potential in a Pardew team, neither will Peroze or indeed half the players we buy. Those that have shown their true potential on many occassions are the ones that Pardew persists with, the Williamsons, Dummets and Gouffrans. Isolating a player for criticism in suxh circumstances and after just two games seems a bit short-sighted to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I mean, we've been through the "don't write them off early" thing so many times now that it's silly that it even needs to be mentioned. The kid has tools and is still adapting to the league. Let's give him more than two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is an average player (which is what he always has been) had a below average today. I believe he will score a decent amount because he is an acceptable finisher, but is not the type that just carries a side. Almost a fair assessment, but he's not being given a fair chance on the pitch with how we setup. If he had three clear chances setup for him and he fluffed them all I'd agree out right. Instead he was given fuck all to work with and looked even worse for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Suffering from Cissé disease atm. Also know as the lack of ability to pull goals out of your arse and actually needing the other 10 players on the pitch. Pardew's fucked if he's relying on this kid to be Demba Ba/Loic Remy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Suffering from Cissé disease atm. Also know as the lack of ability to pull goals out of your arse and actually needing the other 10 players on the pitch. Pardew's f***ed if he's relying on this kid to be Demba Ba/Loic Remy We can but dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We cant really work out if he is decent or not due to Pards. We create bugger all so if we want a striker to score a significant amount he has to do alot himself. I like the look of aspects of his game and he'd be an asset to most mid level PL clubs. Hell play probably the next few games then be dropped by pards and replaced with Chucky or ayoze who will probably get 5 games then be dropped if he hasn't scored a few Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Will be shocked if this guy gets 10 goals this season. Infact Ronaldo's prediction of our entire strikeforce getting less than 30 is looking pretty accurate. Not exactly a difficult prediction to make. What I actually said was none would get double figures. And the entire team would struggle to hit 30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. The lack of bodies to get forward in support is disgustingly negative and just enhances the problem. Even Villa got more forward and Lambert isn't exactly the most enterprising of managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. ....and no Falcao to distract the defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 He's held the ball up reasonably well, and put in a lot of effort, which is good to see. Not much else has happened, but he's not had many good opportunities to score,and the team is still coming together. I think we'll have a better chance to judge him when he's playing with De Jong, who should be able to link with him better than Gouff or Cabella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Reminds me a bit of Leon Best. Won't be able to score many on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Seems to be totally isolated. He is getting Pardew'd nice and early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Might just take one game and it'll click. Ba was getting stick, got a hat trick against Blackburn and that was him away. Hopefully Palace can be Riviere's Blackburn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Might just take one game and it'll click. Ba was getting stick, got a hat trick against Blackburn and that was him away. Hopefully Palace can be Riviere's Blackburn. Hopefully Palace can be Pardew's equivalent of Souness' Man City away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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