Guest n4e Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 All the reports seemed to suggest he struggled massively for Monaco without Falcao playing, and that's in the French league with James Rodriguez and Moutinho in midfield behind him. Willing to give him a chance but there's very little to suggest he's PL quality so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is never going to score 20 goals in a season, with the right tactics I could see him get 10-12 a season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Not impressed with him thus far, even when factoring in Pardew's abysmal tactics. Will be surprised if he gets to double figures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We could have Shearer in his prime and not score in a month with these tactics. Pardews team talk is "careful" forward play is too dangerous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Problem is the lad might have something but immediately it's all down to him, loads of pressure and he's extremely isolated up front. We don't have any other options so the lad is really going to start feeling it soon, a ridiculous scenario as per usual at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I mean, we've been through the "don't write them off early" thing so many times now that it's silly that it even needs to be mentioned. The kid has tools and is still adapting to the league. Let's give him more than two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 He is an average player (which is what he always has been) had a below average today. I believe he will score a decent amount because he is an acceptable finisher, but is not the type that just carries a side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 It's not unknown for a new player to the EPL to take a whole season to adjust, a canny manager that knows a player has something about him persists and gives him that chance. After two games I can't say whether this lad has anything about him or not, there could be a number of factors affecting him. What I am fairly sure of is he will never show his true potential in a Pardew team, neither will Peroze or indeed half the players we buy. Those that have shown their true potential on many occassions are the ones that Pardew persists with, the Williamsons, Dummets and Gouffrans. Isolating a player for criticism in suxh circumstances and after just two games seems a bit short-sighted to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I mean, we've been through the "don't write them off early" thing so many times now that it's silly that it even needs to be mentioned. The kid has tools and is still adapting to the league. Let's give him more than two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Suffering from Cissé disease atm. Also know as the lack of ability to pull goals out of your arse and actually needing the other 10 players on the pitch. Pardew's fucked if he's relying on this kid to be Demba Ba/Loic Remy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Suffering from Cissé disease atm. Also know as the lack of ability to pull goals out of your arse and actually needing the other 10 players on the pitch. Pardew's f***ed if he's relying on this kid to be Demba Ba/Loic Remy We can but dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 We cant really work out if he is decent or not due to Pards. We create bugger all so if we want a striker to score a significant amount he has to do alot himself. I like the look of aspects of his game and he'd be an asset to most mid level PL clubs. Hell play probably the next few games then be dropped by pards and replaced with Chucky or ayoze who will probably get 5 games then be dropped if he hasn't scored a few Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Will be shocked if this guy gets 10 goals this season. Infact Ronaldo's prediction of our entire strikeforce getting less than 30 is looking pretty accurate. Not exactly a difficult prediction to make. What I actually said was none would get double figures. And the entire team would struggle to hit 30. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. The lack of bodies to get forward in support is disgustingly negative and just enhances the problem. Even Villa got more forward and Lambert isn't exactly the most enterprising of managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. ....and no Falcao to distract the defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 He's held the ball up reasonably well, and put in a lot of effort, which is good to see. Not much else has happened, but he's not had many good opportunities to score,and the team is still coming together. I think we'll have a better chance to judge him when he's playing with De Jong, who should be able to link with him better than Gouff or Cabella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Reminds me a bit of Leon Best. Won't be able to score many on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Seems to be totally isolated. He is getting Pardew'd nice and early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Might just take one game and it'll click. Ba was getting stick, got a hat trick against Blackburn and that was him away. Hopefully Palace can be Riviere's Blackburn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Might just take one game and it'll click. Ba was getting stick, got a hat trick against Blackburn and that was him away. Hopefully Palace can be Riviere's Blackburn. Hopefully Palace can be Pardew's equivalent of Souness' Man City away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The bloke's on a hiding to nothing. Feel quite sorry for him tbh, absolute thankless task to lead this 'line'. Lead the line - Even the term should offer a clue as to where we're going wrong. There's no fucking line to lead. Bloke's up there on his own leading a line of 1. Hardly a miracle that it isn't working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 No question that Pardew's catenaccio tactics will make it hard for any striker, but Riviere is hardly in the Remy class when it comes to getting goals. His record wasn't too great in France and that can hardly be expected to improve in a tougher league like the PL. Remy had the advantages of possessing pace off the mark(something Cisse badly lacks)and the ability to judge balls played behind the last defender...he also had the advantage of having Cabaye behind him. Riviere possesses none of these attributes, willing enough though he seems to be and he will struggle to score in this side as will many strikers. Ashley and Co are unwilling to pay big money to secure a decent PL standard forward so goals will be a rare commodity. Strikers are always going to cost the largest outlay in building a team and the fact that the club bosses won't find this cash will be a big problem. Add Pardew to the equation and goal-scoring becomes like climbing Everest....goal-scoring m/f players like de Jong are just the icing on the cake - they can NEVER make up for the lack of a decent striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Might just take one game and it'll click. Ba was getting stick, got a hat trick against Blackburn and that was him away. Hopefully Palace can be Riviere's Blackburn. Hope you're right but as willing a worker as he seems is he as capable a goalscorer as Ba, I doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I wouldn't say Riviere had a lack of pace or movement. From what I've seen so far his main problem may be his lack of composure when that one chance he might get per game comes his way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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