Kimbo Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 It blatantly is, just not yet. Quite clearly nothing would make Ashley sack Pardew. That's not true at all. He will get sacked at some point. Without a doubt And you base this on? Absolutely nothing suggests it. The fact that basically every single manager in the history of football leaves or gets sacked. Most clubs hire a manager for footballing reasons, there's no way this mug was hired for his track record or talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I'm telling it like it is. There's no way this nonsense would be allowed to happen at clubs like Liverpool, Spurs, Man U, Everton or even f***ing Villa. Eh… Ellis was in charge for years and they hated him. Your point being what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 Caller on 606 sticking the boot in to Pardew at the moment - going on about certain players being 'pardewed'. Just listened to this and thought the complete opposite tbh. Began the call moaning about selling Cabaye for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 People still think he'll be sacked if we look like we're going down? I've made this point before a couple of times, but it needs driven home. The last time we went down it looked likely that we'd be in and around there but he stuck with Kinnear regardless. Kinnear only went because of his health. With 8 games to go Ashley appointed a man who had never managed or coached a football club before, never mind at the top level. Shearer's a hero to me but he was out of his depth there and it was a stupid appointment that cost the club it's Premier League status*. Ashley has proven time and time again he is clueless with this shit so why would it change now? Even when we were down he went for the cheap option in Hughton, who luckily for us worked out, but it was a desperate appointment at the time. Pardew is the safe option for Ashley, he's the yes man and because of the 5th season he's probably seen as a good manager who is capable of having a great season here and there. Pardew will get until the absolute end to try and keep us in this division, and even if we do go down I've no doubt in my mind that Ashley will see him as the man to take us back up. Ashley probably thinks Pardew is too good for the Championship and would piss it. Long story short, Pardew is going fucking nowhere. The man headbutted someone and survived, he's won how many games this year? He's still here. At this point he can't do anything to be sacked other than headbutt Ashley himself. *I know a lot of the damage had been done. But we just needed a point, an experienced manager would probably have got it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Sorry to say that Decky's view is starting to look more and more like the right one. Guess the test will be the hammerings we receive in the next few fixtures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 While I agree with the aforementioned points, the only counter argument would be: why does he keep attending matches? If he truly doesn't give a fuck, his attendances at games has actually increased recently. Why turn up to watch dross? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 While I agree with the aforementioned points, the only counter argument would be: why does he keep attending matches? If he truly doesn't give a fuck, his attendances at games has actually increased recently. Why turn up to watch dross? Who knows? Maybe he just decided to take in more games. It could literally be as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 God his latest sycophantic shit towards Ashley is wretched. You'll get fans still saying "feel sorry for him" "Ashley is the problem." Yeah, the same Ashley that poor old Pards is constantly bigging up. All this bigging up of Mike is just him desperately trying to hold on to the job. Its pathetic that it seems to be working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I'm telling it like it is. There's no way this nonsense would be allowed to happen at clubs like Liverpool, Spurs, Man U, Everton or even f***ing Villa. Eh… Ellis was in charge for years and they hated him. He was, but even under Ellis they won the Littlewoods Cup and even, I think, the European Cup at the start of the 80s.... We are noticeably absent from any likelihood of winning trophies under Ashley, even though he leaves Ellis dead for financial wealth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 People still think he'll be sacked if we look like we're going down? I've made this point before a couple of times, but it needs driven home. The last time we went down it looked likely that we'd be in and around there but he stuck with Kinnear regardless. Kinnear only went because of his health. With 8 games to go Ashley appointed a man who had never managed or coached a football club before, never mind at the top level. Shearer's a hero to me but he was out of his depth there and it was a stupid appointment that cost the club it's Premier League status*. Ashley has proven time and time again he is clueless with this shit so why would it change now? Even when we were down he went for the cheap option in Hughton, who luckily for us worked out, but it was a desperate appointment at the time. Pardew is the safe option for Ashley, he's the yes man and because of the 5th season he's probably seen as a good manager who is capable of having a great season here and there. Pardew will get until the absolute end to try and keep us in this division, and even if we do go down I've no doubt in my mind that Ashley will see him as the man to take us back up. Ashley probably thinks Pardew is too good for the Championship and would piss it. Long story short, Pardew is going fucking nowhere. The man headbutted someone and survived, he's won how many games this year? He's still here. At this point he can't do anything to be sacked other than headbutt Ashley himself. *I know a lot of the damage had been done. But we just needed a point, an experienced manager would probably have got it. Ashley far more likely to spend a few quid in January than sack Pardew if we're still in danger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 People still think he'll be sacked if we look like we're going down? I've made this point before a couple of times, but it needs driven home. The last time we went down it looked likely that we'd be in and around there but he stuck with Kinnear regardless. Kinnear only went because of his health. With 8 games to go Ashley appointed a man who had never managed or coached a football club before, never mind at the top level. Shearer's a hero to me but he was out of his depth there and it was a stupid appointment that cost the club it's Premier League status*. Ashley has proven time and time again he is clueless with this s*** so why would it change now? Even when we were down he went for the cheap option in Hughton, who luckily for us worked out, but it was a desperate appointment at the time. Pardew is the safe option for Ashley, he's the yes man and because of the 5th season he's probably seen as a good manager who is capable of having a great season here and there. Pardew will get until the absolute end to try and keep us in this division, and even if we do go down I've no doubt in my mind that Ashley will see him as the man to take us back up. Ashley probably thinks Pardew is too good for the Championship and would p*ss it. Long story short, Pardew is going f***ing nowhere. The man headbutted someone and survived, he's won how many games this year? He's still here. At this point he can't do anything to be sacked other than headbutt Ashley himself. *I know a lot of the damage had been done. But we just needed a point, an experienced manager would probably have got it. Great post, based on facts rather than assumptions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 People still think he'll be sacked if we look like we're going down? I've made this point before a couple of times, but it needs driven home. The last time we went down it looked likely that we'd be in and around there but he stuck with Kinnear regardless. Kinnear only went because of his health. With 8 games to go Ashley appointed a man who had never managed or coached a football club before, never mind at the top level. Shearer's a hero to me but he was out of his depth there and it was a stupid appointment that cost the club it's Premier League status*. Ashley has proven time and time again he is clueless with this s*** so why would it change now? Even when we were down he went for the cheap option in Hughton, who luckily for us worked out, but it was a desperate appointment at the time. Pardew is the safe option for Ashley, he's the yes man and because of the 5th season he's probably seen as a good manager who is capable of having a great season here and there. Pardew will get until the absolute end to try and keep us in this division, and even if we do go down I've no doubt in my mind that Ashley will see him as the man to take us back up. Ashley probably thinks Pardew is too good for the Championship and would p*ss it. Long story short, Pardew is going f***ing nowhere. The man headbutted someone and survived, he's won how many games this year? He's still here. At this point he can't do anything to be sacked other than headbutt Ashley himself. *I know a lot of the damage had been done. But we just needed a point, an experienced manager would probably have got it. Ashley far more likely to spend a few quid in January than sack Pardew if we're still in danger Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Just watched it. what the actual fuck is that about. i think he's annoyed at stone for preventing him doing what he wanted, he probably wanted to run onto the pitch or catch mikes eye or something to celebrate the monumental win and it pissed him off that stone bear hugging him stole his limelight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Did what anyone else would do in that situation, throw the fucker on the ground and not look back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 .Our start to this season has been the easiest for years and we are still horrific, I think this weekend's result will be the beginning of the end for pardew and hell be gone by December Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 My hate peaked so long ago that now I'm just, looking at it him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 My hate peaked so long ago that now I'm just, looking at it him. huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 My hate peaked so long ago that now I'm just, looking at it him. huh? Hate replaced by apathy. I'm the same tbh, just can't find it within myself to give a shit anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 it was the "at it him" i didn't get, seemed like a word missing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Did the crowd start turning on him before the goal or are the match going "majority" still loyal to the king? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 The league is just that bad. Compared to what? There's great teams, good teams, average teams and a few poor ones. There's only one side that could win the CL imo. All the rest would do well to make it to QF's. 1 great side. Another few good sides with some great players. A lot of average teams and plenty of poor ones. Apart from Everton - every side below Stoke are piss poor. Maybe that's unfair on Hull & Villa this season. I don't think we are any better than the bottom 10 or so in the league but we'll not be cut adrift - there's enough crap teams for Pardew to be "in touch" with safety until it's to late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Submissive, weak, blindly loyal pliable fans. Pathetic bunch in all honesty. Bang on and this is one of the major reasons why the club has underachieved for so many years, because fans accept any old shit. At any other big club and Ashley would have been hounded out years ago and Pardew too. We have the biggest bunch of losers in the UK when it comes to match day fans. I've never been more embarrassed sat inside SJP than against Hull. Wild celebrations for earning a point. Morons! They deserve the Ashley/Pardew dream team, Wonga shirts and the SD arena, because lets face it that's what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I think a lot of it is to do with how much of a social occasion the match is. Almost every other set of PL fans have to go off the beaten track to get to the match. Loads of our fans aren't overly bothered about the result or performance as long as they can have a drink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 I think a lot of it is to do with how much of a social occasion the match is. Almost every other set of PL fans have to go off the beaten track to get to the match. Loads of our fans aren't overly bothered about the result or performance as long as they can have a drink. Fairly common problem for a lot of London clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Nah. Their fans are far more likely to come from far and wide. There's no way Spurs fans would usually drink in that dump. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts