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  On 03/03/2015 at 15:38, Disco said:

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I do think foreign players in general, not just at NUFC, get a fairer crack of the whip on here, mind.

 

Specifically at NUFC I think it mostly boils down to almost unlimited faith in Graham Carr. And the fact those who haven't succeeded due to being physically not up to English football - such as Anita - attract the football hipsters who ironically tend to go after the likes of Harry Kane and end up with egg on their face.

 

Disappointed I didn't get a name check there tbh.

 

Part of me still thinks Kane will be a flash in the pan, mainly due to his slowness, although he has probably been the second best all round striker in the league this season.

 

I'll be fascinated to see how Kane develops.  I'm not 100% convinced yet - next couple of years will be interesting.

 

If nothing else he seems to makes up for his flaws by surprisingly, given his demeanor, playing with superb intelligence from what I've seen. That's the sort of stuff that will usually help at the top level and might suggest why he is doing better now than he was on loan at whoever playing with s****.

 

Teddy Sheringham was slow too, a certain mr Clough didn't rate him at all but he was a very intelligent striker forward, knew exactly how to make the runs and where to be to score goals

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  On 03/03/2015 at 15:16, Disco said:

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I do think foreign players in general, not just at NUFC, get a fairer crack of the whip on here, mind.

 

Specifically at NUFC I think it mostly boils down to almost unlimited faith in Graham Carr. And the fact those who haven't succeeded due to being physically not up to English football - such as Anita - attract the football hipsters who ironically tend to go after the likes of Harry Kane and end up with egg on their face.

 

Disappointed I didn't get a name check there tbh.

 

Part of me still thinks Kane will be a flash in the pan, mainly due to his slowness, although he has probably been the second best all round striker in the league this season.

 

I wasn't even thinking of you. I've always found you to be pretty unbiased, cept when it comes to the Argies.

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Kane beats a tremendous amount of defenders for a "slow" lad like.

 

the Lampard example is weird. Kaka at his best was the best in the world. That's never been the case for Lampard. But obviously Lampard has had a more consistent career by far. Pirlo example is unnatural because of different styles. Also very contrasting international careers. Pirlo was MOTM of a WC Final & semi-final. Lamps never did it at the highest level for England. But still he's appreciated as a legend and a world-class player in his pomp.

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Lampard man, I mean he's quality, but he's not a Kaka or Pirlo type at all. Those guys run entire games when they're on, and that kind of player is of greater value IMO.

 

Doesn't mean Lampard isn't quality though. Maybe more comparable to a Ballack perhaps? Who was top quality himself.

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Kane, Sturridge, Sterling, Barkley, Stones, Clyne, Shaw, Wilshere, Welbeck, Walcott ...

 

Man, England have some pieces to work with. Need a more adventurous manager though.

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  On 03/03/2015 at 15:59, KaKa said:

Lampard man, I mean he's quality, but he's not a Kaka or Pirlo type at all. Those guys run entire games when they're on, and that kind of player is of greater value IMO.

 

Doesn't mean Lampard isn't quality though. Maybe more comparable to a Ballack perhaps? Who was top quality himself.

 

Kaka wasn't the type of player to run games, either.

 

I do think people forget just how good Lampard was in his 6 or 7 year prime, mind. So much more to his game than goals.

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Okay, Pirlo runs games, but Kaka was more involved than a Lampard IMO. His passing and dribbling was of a higher standard, and he was still a major goal threat too.

 

Lampard is quality no question, but I could understand why the likes of Pirlo and Kaka would be seen as better players.

 

Definitely wouldn't say Lampard was just about goals, but his all round game wasn't as strong as those two I don't think.

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  On 03/03/2015 at 20:46, TheHoob said:

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Pardew's pledge to play football seems to have been lost on his players so far.

 

:whistle:

 

Where's that quote from?

 

No idea how this idea he plays good football comes from. I gave him more time than most but even I know that's complete bollocks.

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  On 03/03/2015 at 20:47, Ian W said:

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Pardew's pledge to play football seems to have been lost on his players so far.

 

:whistle:

 

Where's that quote from?

 

No idea how this idea he plays good football comes from. I gave him more time than most but even I know that's complete bollocks.

 

Palace forum, yet to sink in I think.

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