Zero Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 His biggest fault is he is a competent manager who successfully implements Ashleys idea by various means that ultimately hurts the club in the long run. Normal managers would either quit the job or fail to implement. Whether the blame is more on Ashley or Pardew is debatable, but his time at palace proves that he is a competent manager and did have ambition. The Cabaye purchase would not happen if he didnt push for it to the extreme, and it brings them huge rewards. This would never happen to us. I support the sack pardew campaign for our club's long term future. That doesnt mean i think he is a bad manager. In fact he is competent, stucked in the middle, which hurt us most by prolonging Ashleys era and maximizing his investment return. If he is a very talented manager, he could bring us to top 6 despite having limited resources. If he is a s*** manager, we should have relegated for long and Ashley should sell the club already. Personally i wont hate him because he is not the one who initiated the idea. He is just an executor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 His biggest fault is he is a competent manager who successfully implements Ashleys idea by various means that ultimately hurts the club in the long run. Normal managers would either quit the job or fail to implement. Whether the blame is more on Ashley or Pardew is debatable, but his time at palace proves that he is a competent manager and did have ambition. The Cabaye purchase would not happen if he didnt push for it to the extreme, and it brings them huge rewards. This would never happen to us. I support the sack pardew campaign for our club's long term future. That doesnt mean i think he is a bad manager. In fact he is competent, stucked in the middle, which hurt us most by prolonging Ashleys era and maximizing his investment return. If he is a very talented manager, he could bring us to top 6 despite having limited resources. If he is a s*** manager, we should have relegated for long and Ashley should sell the club already. Personally i wont hate him because he is not the one who initiated the idea. He is just an executor. So you don't remember us flirting with relegation until the last couple of games of the season while he was in charge? We needed two massive fuck-ups by Bosingwa and Green, and a goal by Tiendalli for Swansea to save our skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/10/was-it-really-better-before-steve-mcclaren/ Absolutely bang on, this. Great article with great, albeit slightly depressing, context.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 He's won, you've lost. When he thinks back to that Stoke game, he laughs. When he looks at the league table, he laughs. The media are on his side. Fans of other clubs are on his side. He doesn't care if Newcastle fans hate him. Even if it goes terribly next season, people will refer back to the 'good job' he did at Newcastle, and his first one and a half seasons at Palace. Then he'll get another PL job somewhere, or a cushy job as a media expert. Or maybe just retire on his millions and focus on his playboy lifestyle. His ego will not be dented. Accept it, move on. It's over. Will be less painful for you this way. I'm just amazed Liverpool are looking to hire the unproven (in the premier) Klopp considering Pards' qualities. Why would you want to take a punt on a German coach used to playing pansy continental football when you have the best British manager in the game tearing up the premier league right on your doorstep? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Palace concede more shots to the opposition than every club bar us and the mackems and no club has a conceded fewer. Walking a tightrope. I think this chart doesn't tell the whole story though. They conceded like 20+ shots against Chelsea and ManCity but only about 6 or 7 were on target. Actually they have conceded only around 45 shots on target which on average would give you 5 goals. They let in 7 right now which makes them the top joint defence in the league. You can call him stubborn, coward but not lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Well it's true, if you put eight strapping players behind the ball and defend in depth you're not likely to concede many. A couple of pacy forwards and some set piece threat and Fat Sam's your uncle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/2015/10/was-it-really-better-before-steve-mcclaren/ Absolutely bang on, this. Cracking article that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 And another: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/time-end-alan-pardew-revisionism-10213413 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 This Waugh character seems alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 The polls in that article are very much anti Pardew, 80% wouldn't take him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 The polls in that article are very much anti Pardew, 80% wouldn't take him back. I hope I never have to encounter the other 20% in my lifetime. Scary people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Might get someone I don't like to dress up as this cunt for Halloween and then I can idenitify anyone who doesn't knock seven shades of shit of him a filthy sympathiser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Are these your shower thoughts Disco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Are these your shower thoughts Disco? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 I might dress up as him, like Some sort of ironic 'I hate this cuntflap, aren't I mint?' joke that no-one will get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Just been offered a ticket for Palace vs Sunderland at Selhurst Park. Might vom on my keyboard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Just been offered a ticket for Palace vs Sunderland at Selhurst Park. Might vom on my keyboard. I've been offered a very contagious flesh-eating disease. I declined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Just been offered a ticket for Palace vs Sunderland at Selhurst Park. Might vom on my keyboard. I've been offered a very contagious flesh-eating disease. I declined. Given the choice, it'd be Necrotizing fasciitis every time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'd go but I'm stapling my scrot to the wall that day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'm trying to think of a good excuse for you to go but I really can't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The woman who offered them to me is lovely too. Season ticket Palace fan who doesn't know a great deal about football, but loves her team and listened to me with an open mind while I politely told her to enjoy this while she can. I wasn't a dick about it. Honestly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The woman who offered them to me is lovely too. Season ticket Palace fan who doesn't know a great deal about football, but loves her team and listened to me with an open mind while I politely told her to enjoy this while she can. I wasn't a dick about it. Honestly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Pardew v Allardyce, the stuff dreams are made from. Surprised you declined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 He is doing well at the moment. Don't worry though. You're all too close to it. Every thing said on here. Everything that I've learned the man was about (insight that can only be gained from fans of other teams) He's stumbled upon a team perfectly suited to his style. Big lads in defence, players for magic. He will turn soon. It's a poorer league than last season. I think a couple of defeats will see him revert to type. I can still see. I haven't wavered. I'm a mackem ffs. Relax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 He is doing well at the moment. Don't worry though. You're all too close to it. Every thing said on here. Everything that I've learned the man was about (insight that can only be gained from fans of other teams) He's stumbled upon a team perfectly suited to his style. Big lads in defence, players for magic. He will turn soon. It's a poorer league than last season. I think a couple of defeats will see him revert to type. I can still see. I haven't wavered. I'm a mackem ffs. Relax I heard Stewart Robson (who proved to be so right about Pardew in that ESPN feature when he got our job) say pretty much the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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