louistoon Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Some of the Pardew histeria on this board is unbelieveable. Its bloody obvious and has been for the entirety of his time here that Ashley is not a good chairman either as a fan, a player or a manager. Pardew was an average manager for us, we could have had a lot better, but how many games have we won since he left? Losing Pardew was never going to do anything to fix the problems with this club, so I really can't understand the level of hatred he receives. When I think about some of the other dross we've had in our time (Souness, Allardyce, Kinnear) he doesn't even compare to those assholes. http://i.imgur.com/VEWhBSC.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 He's as big an arsehole as any of those mentioned and rode entirely on the contrails of one great season. I doubt souness or allardyce would have crept around Ashley so much, the snake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Don't know how anyone can have much ill feeling towards Allardyce on his Newcastle career alone, he was only here five minutes. Pardew allowed the mackems to continually humiliate us on our own pitch, suffered record breaking streaks of poor form, nearly relegated us and was the main football influence in creating a club that many of us don't give the slightest shit about anymore, and we're meant to hate Fat Sam more? For what, losing to Derby? Don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Allardyce would've been happy to continually pick up his massive cheques. He would've done the same thing. He never walks. And always has a massive backroom team for no reason. Souness is a shit manager but as a man he's a winner. He wouldn't have stood for Ashley. But he's the worst of the bunch. He had a good team, dismantled it and spent loads of money in the process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Don't know how anyone can have much ill feeling towards Allardyce on his Newcastle career alone, he was only here five minutes. Pardew allowed the mackems to continually humiliate us on our own pitch, suffered record breaking streaks of poor form, nearly relegated us and was the main football influence in creating a club that many of us don't give the slightest shit about anymore, and we're meant to hate Fat Sam more? For what, losing to Derby? Don't get it. This is it for me and it's worth more than any (non) transfer or result that has and will ever take place. The only thing I can thank Pardew for is making feel pure, unbridled hate for the first time in my life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Palace concede more shots to the opposition than every club bar us and the mackems and no club has a conceded fewer. Walking a tightrope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Don't think allardyce would've have towed the party line half as much. Pardew was like a poor mans goebells Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yeah but how many games we won since Pardew left? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 What the bloody buggery hell is that graph? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Interesting graph. Would suggest the quality of shot they concede is low. They sit deep and concede shots from range. Or just concede a lot of not very dangerous shots. Us on the other hand. Is just grim. Bournemouth's is interesting too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Palace concede more shots to the opposition than every club bar us and the mackems and no club has a conceded fewer. Walking a tightrope. Not going to lie, I like this graph because it proves the point about Pardew and the sort of game he plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It is good, I just haven't seen the like before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 It's hard to tell who are actually worst in that scenario, albeit because I can't read it correctly, but am I right in thinking that Chelsea have the worst ratio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I think so, that means they committed lots of silly individual errors and conceded easy goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I like that graph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I reckon, the worst would be us and Sunderland. For the fact we concede the most shots and a number relatively high number of those end up in the back of the net. Chelsea's is also very bad. Bournemouth's is a little concerning. Perhaps indicates there's a lot of mistakes or vulnerable to counters (or both). I think that's the case for Soton, the counters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I reckon, the worst would be us and Sunderland. For the fact we concede the most shots and a number relatively high number of those end up in the back of the net. Chelsea's is also very bad. Bournemouth's is a little concerning. Perhaps indicates there's a lot of mistakes or vulnerable to counters (or both). I think that's the case for Soton, the counters. Please stop doing this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Is their a reverse of shots taken and goals scored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Don't quote me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Don't quote me. Areet Rambo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 All these pundits and journalists have been saying for months what a brilliant manager he is but i am yet to see any of them link him with the Liverpool job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 All these pundits and journalists have been saying for months what a brilliant manager he is but i am yet to see any of them link him with the Liverpool job! Yup, good for England but not Liverpool? I would love it if he went there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Don't quote me. Could you elaborate on that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Andy Brassell wrote a piece on Pardew. I was prepared for another wankfest but he's surprisingly fair about his final months up here. You sense that at both the start and finish of the arriving international break, plenty will browse the Premier League table with a bit more scrutiny than is usually the case at this time of year. The opening two months of the season have been so wonderfully chaotic (for any neutrals, at least) that re-familiarising oneself with where it's at is pretty much an imperative. Crystal Palace are a case in point, having crept up to a heady fourth place on the back of successive wins. Their manager Alan Pardew has never been known for his subtlety, but Palace's progress under the man who famously scored their winner in the 1990 FA Cup semi-final win over Liverpool has proved that leopards really can change their spots. Palace's upwards trajectory since Pardew's appointment in January has been relentless. His achievement in plucking his new side from the relegation zone to a top-ten finish was extraordinary, and has led many to claim that Newcastle made a huge mistake in willingly letting him go. The argument that his former club have gone from bad to worse since his departure is a poor one, however, with the Geordies' woes more related to Mike Ashley's own management since than the lack of any Pardew magic. A more sober assessment is that he had become very stale at St Jamess' Park and overstayed his welcome by several months, at least. Yet Pardew's work so far back on his old stomping ground is firm proof that relationships run their course, and that people move on and change for the better. Palace have been nothing short of sensational since his return to south London, and his team's ambition and maturity in this campaign so far demands that they must be taken seriously. His increasingly stodgy tactics at Newcastle did nothing for talents like Hatem Ben Arfa and Remy Cabella, which needed nurturing, but he has provided a platform for flair players to flourish at Selhurst Park. The intermittent use of his wingers, Wilfried Zaha, Bakary Sako and Jason Puncheon, in more central roles has been imaginative, as was his decision to start with another, the outstanding Yannick Bolasie, as a lone front man in the recent trip to Tottenham. The forward players owe much of their freedom to the incoming influence of Pardew's trusted muse Yohan Cabaye. The France midfielder has been used in a more defensive position - surprisingly, perhaps, given his success as a de facto number 10 at Newcastle immediately before his transfer to Paris Saint-Germain - and has given Palace great solidity. The first game back in the swing of things after the break, against another former Pardew club in West Ham, will be a fascinating one, especially given the Hammers' thrilling unpredictability since Slaven Bilic took the helm. Having the joint-best defence in the league with just seven conceded (albeit a title shared with four other teams) gives Palace reason to look beyond this, however, to the bigger picture. Competition may be fierce, but the fact that Pardew's team look so organised and that they can hope to do even better if their strikers start scoring (Cabaye is the top scorer so far with three, two of which were penalties), means that they have earned the right to dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Goodness me. A very fair assessment of his time here, but fuck me, reading about his time at Palace would have you think Klopp had picked Selhurst Park instead of Anfield. I hate this guy so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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