Wolfcastle Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) In essence its only a sort of homage cum commerical stunt - its not a deliberte provocation, slight or insensitive move just because people want to take it that way, like Rangers (who I like by the way) plumbing for orange away strips now and then or Celtic's Irish colours during the IRA troubles which were far more offensive and worth getting excited about, yet no neutral really did. Edited May 13, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 hours ago, The Prophet said: Holt is just a bad faith actor. For example: given what’s happened in another part of the Middle-East this week, in a country who's teams are allowed to play in UEFA competitions, and there’s been no comment from the new Middle-Eastern political experts Holt and Delaney. Might suggest that they’re not as clued up on all aspects of Middle Eastern geo-politics as they claim. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/11/middleeast/al-jazeera-journalist-killed-intl-hnk/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 hour ago, St. Maximin said: I don’t think journalists explain why sportswashing is effective because it isn’t really. I always hear them talking about “the latest disgraceful example of sportswashing” or the like without them really explaining how it’s working or is expected to. The clearest signs of it to me are the minority of Saudi apologists in our fanbase, but in the grand scheme of things their impacts are minimal and I doubt the main target of the takeover. Sure we would effectively be advertising their ‘brand’ through this, whether we like it or not (I’d rather not), but it’s done for economic purposes. Sportswashing is basically positive PR, the actions of our fanbase have nothing to do with it. Saudi Arabia wants to be associated with a successful Newcastle and other sporting events so those stories dominate people's perceptions of Saudi Arabia and not the stories people currently associate with the country. It's the reason none of the Gulf countries have bought an established top club, say Man U, as their success would not be so closely associated with the ownership and wouldn't really be a "story". The column inches generated by football and sport in general probably dominate more than any other area of the media and are read by supporters all over the world; it is fantastic publicity. It's also worth noting that outside of Europe and North America, most people only think about Islam and oil when it comes to Saudi Arabia (in general people in Africa/Asia don't think about the human rights issues (just anecdotal evidence based on my travels and living in different places)) and the Saudi's now want to be known for more than that. The success of Newcastle will also not attract anywhere near the kind of negative scrutiny in those countries like we've seen in England. In the medium-term, the Saudi's will want to use Sportswashing to increase tourism in the country/create a travel hub. We are all used to Europeans using Dubai as a bridge to Asia but it's much more than that. For example, from Sudan down East Africa through Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia, Tanzania, Uganda and Rwanda, all of the upper middle class families in those countries travel to Dubai once or twice a year to do their annual shopping. I'm sure the Saudi's want a bit of that and Jeddah is only about an hour from some of those places as opposed to four hours to Dubai. Long-term the Saudi's will also be looking to attract foreign direct investment through sportswashing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Delaney was wankin in a sock when PIF was rumoured to be after man utd.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yassassin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 As an advocate of whataboutery, I am staggered as to the easy ride that the City Football Group gets. I mean an oppressive regime and Ruigang Li. Anyhow, also think that, if authentic, the choice of third-strip was either made by a club employee’s toddler understandably ignorant of any ramifications or the ownership have decided to expose the fan-base to ever more vitriol; not happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, macphisto said: Sportswashing is basically positive PR, the actions of our fanbase have nothing to do with it. Saudi Arabia wants to be associated with a successful Newcastle and other sporting events so those stories dominate people's perceptions of Saudi Arabia and not the stories people currently associate with the country. It's the reason none of the Gulf countries have bought an established top club, say Man U, as their success would not be so closely associated with the ownership and wouldn't really be a "story". The column inches generated by football and sport in general probably dominate more than any other area of the media and are read by supporters all over the world; it is fantastic publicity. It's also worth noting that outside of Europe and North America, most people only think about Islam and oil when it comes to Saudi Arabia (in general people in Africa/Asia don't think about the human rights issues (just anecdotal evidence based on my travels and living in different places)) and the Saudi's now want to be known for more than that. The success of Newcastle will also not attract anywhere near the kind of negative scrutiny in those countries like we've seen in England. In the medium-term, the Saudi's will want to use Sportswashing to increase tourism in the country/create a travel hub. We are all used to Europeans using Dubai as a bridge to Asia but it's much more than that. For example, from Sudan down East Africa through Ethiopia, Kenya, Somalia, Tanzania, Uganda and Rwanda, all of the upper middle class families in those countries travel to Dubai once or twice a year to do their annual shopping. I'm sure the Saudi's want a bit of that and Jeddah is only about an hour from some of those places as opposed to four hours to Dubai. Long-term the Saudi's will also be looking to attract foreign direct investment through sportswashing. All sounds about right, nicely summed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Yassassin said: As an advocate of whataboutery, I am staggered as to the easy ride that the City Football Group gets. I mean an oppressive regime and Ruigang Li. Anyhow, also think that, if authentic, the choice of third-strip was either made by a club employee’s toddler understandably ignorant of any ramifications or the ownership have decided to expose the fan-base to ever more vitriol; not happy Away strip, not 3rd if you’re referring to the lush green and white number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I am hopeful the club will address this head on now that it's out there and own up to the fact that it was poor judgement and/or explain why they went with it and overall, pull the kit or confirm they've cancelled it with Castore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, Kanji said: I am hopeful the club will address this head on now that it's out there and own up to the fact that it was poor judgement and/or explain why they went with it and overall, pull the kit or confirm they've cancelled it with Castore. Lol, so what other colours would you like to ban? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, Kanji said: I am hopeful the club will address this head on now that it's out there and own up to the fact that it was poor judgement and/or explain why they went with it and overall, pull the kit or confirm they've cancelled it with Castore. I can’t wait for the club to address this and reveal the sponsor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: I can’t wait for the club to address this and reveal the sponsor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Tempted to buy one now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Butcher said: For all I agree, I'd sell my soul for this cunt to fuck off tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Sell my soul in return for NUFC having a Saudi coloured 3rd shirt. Fucking class deal that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 If Saudi Arabia offered Nigel Farage a five or six-figure sum to peddle their propaganda on GBeebies, he'd be aal aawa it like a rash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 One of the biggest grifters going lecturing folk on selling their soul, superb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) Edited May 13, 2022 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Absolutely love that this cunt is on the same page as some of the other fannies who are always twisting on here. No doubt some of them share his views on other stuff as well although they won't say it openly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 I wouldn’t mind if it was genuine outrage but the vast majority of it like Rory on YouTube it’s just straight up faux outrage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, gdm said: It’s just a shirt, Rory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Can’t stand that guy tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Really upset that racist in hiding farage hates us. Tory cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 Feel like Rory might take that down, awful take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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