ponsaelius Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Who are the 12 scabs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 From a Spurs fansite, glad it's getting the respect it deserves and we are no longer being sneered upon for being fickle: Travelling Spurs fans are likely to be greeted by plenty of empty seats at St. James’ on Sunday. “Fifteen or sixteen thousand” Newcastle fans could boycott this Sunday’s match at St. James’ Park, according to the chairman of the Newcastle United Supporters’ Trust Norman Watson. SEE ALSO: Levy planning massive Spurs overhaul: Baldini to be sacked; 10 players to be sold That could see 52k-seater St James’ reduced to around 35k – still around the same capacity as White Hart Lane! The last Toon boycott against owner Mike Ashley attracted just 1,000 fans but Sunday’s movement is set to be considerably bigger, even if Spurs fans are unlikely to outnumber home supporters. Newcastle fans on social media started calls to boycott the game, which is live on Sky Sports, following the defeat to Sunderland and they’ll also be protests staged near the ground both before and after the match. Travelling Spurs fans could therefore find themselves in the unusual position of seeing a huge number of empty seats at the normally raucous St. James’. Anything that gives Tottenham an advantage, regardless of how slim, is fine with me and it’d be great to hear our travelling support, which rarely needs any encouragement to sing, easily make themselves heard above the usually vocal Geordies. That said, I have a huge amount of sympathy for Newcastle fans, whose once great club has been left to simply exist under Ashley’s management. Good on them and I hope the boycott is a success. Second time I've heard someone mention that, what was the last Ashley boycott?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 He couldn't give a s*** about fans not going to games. But constant media references to Sports Direct and their zero hour contracts, toxic brand, unethical redundancy processes, dodgy pre-pack administration and government enquiries into his business activity is not the news that SD shareholders will be happy to read about in the international press on a daily basis. He can't risk damaging the Sports Direct brand, so that's his achilles heal. A determined and intelligent campaign by NUFC fans who have the support of mainstream media means we can talk about our frustrations with the management of the club, but more importantly can put the SD brand in constant focus for many negative reasons. And the media seem to have an appetite for this at the moment. NUFC is a small part of his business operations but also the most visible and we have a genuine opportunity to become a really big thorn in his side. Very true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm weighing up possible scenarios regarding how this campaign could go. And how Ashley may react to a smack in the gob, effectively. Because I'm certain he's a vindictive c***. I can recall Saddam Husseins troops setting oil wells on fire as they retreated through Kuwait I should imagine Ashley's retreat would be similar to that. He's gonna do us up the arse isn't he? But if that's what it takes then so be it. You're assuming that he hates you as much as you hate him. A fair assumption I would say. An ego-centric assumption, I'd say. Oh well, here goes. To be honest, the boycott all feels a bit naive. Similar to the Sack Pardew campaign - a howl of anger rather than anything constructive. We'll soon be appointing a permanent manager, and I'm wondering what any half-decent candidate is going to make of the club. Despite the campaigners' opinion of his ability, Pardew's standing in the game was reasonably good and will only have been enhanced by events at Palace. Candidates will have seen the guy driven out by supporters and may well think twice about putting themselves in the same position. Similarly any waverers are going to be concerned about harnessing themselves to an owner who is subject to a similar campaign. So altogether, I expect that - as with the results of the Pardew campaign - we'll end up in a worse position. Ashley had always had a piggybank attitude to spending money, and he's now got the club in a position where there's some surplus cash to spend. Personally, I'd like to see what he's prepared to do this summer. People will say that we're reached the same position before, but the situation now is a bit different, and will be an acid test of whether he's prepared to spend on the team or try to recoup his previous investment. Summer is the real test imo #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 They'll have to spend money in the summer, or we'll go down. I look forward to basic investment in the squad being heralded as Ashley turning over a new leaf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 They'll have to spend money in the summer, or we'll go down. I look forward to basic investment in the squad being heralded as Ashley turning over a new leaf. Just like the previous summer, bare minimum will be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 They'll have to spend money in the summer, or we'll go down. I look forward to basic investment in the squad being heralded as Ashley turning over a new leaf. This is exactly what will happen, it's so depressingly predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 They'll have to spend money in the summer, or we'll go down. I look forward to basic investment in the squad being heralded as Ashley turning over a new leaf. No doubt with player sales funding all incomings, with more going out than coming in. Then we can hear about how Ashley spent so much in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Probably being picky here, but 'no investment' in 8 years isn't really true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 That banner is fucking brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Probably being picky here, but 'no investment' in 8 years isn't really true. F*ck it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Probably being picky here, but 'no investment' in 8 years isn't really true. F*ck it If the campaign is to be taken seriously, at least get the facts right no spelling mistakes is a start at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 A good story > facts, the way the media works in regards to us on a regular basis should be evident of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Just look at Leeds no investment there and where are they now ? .....................that's right still in fucking Leeds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 It depends what is meant by investment? It could be interpreted in different ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 He couldn't give a shit about fans not going to games. Agree with a lot of what you say after this but not this. We don't know either way because it's never been tried. And it won't reflect well on his brand if the stadium becomes a ghost town. Hence the reason he's always lowering prices to get people in the ground. We should do the other stuff you mention, but not going to SJP is part of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I've had 3 emails from the club this week advertising tickets for Spurs game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Would be funny (in a shoot-me-in-the-face kinda way) if he decided to spend £100M () and gave it to Carver Not that Carver would have any say in it though, but anyways... Love how they've renamed the manager position to head coach too, to show that his responsibilities stops at telling players where to run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Tbf, that's one aspect I'm not fussed about and is becoming more common even over here now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Completely different like but if the Britons didn't try to stand up to Hitler we'd be fascists speaking German. If mankind decided to not do anything because the odds were impossible, we'd probably be extinct. Each to their own like. I just don't believe in the logic that you should take shit just because you're scared of making a mug of yourself. You're being mugged off regardless. If a 7ft bloke kept pushing you, and prodding you, and abusing you, you wouldn't just stand there and take it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Cronky, man - are you going to answer me this time? I've asked you before and I'll ask you again: what actually is your opinion of the club? Do you think it's underachieving? What would you change? I know you're not a wind-up merchant but you only ever speak on the contrary. I wasn't conscious of ignoring any question from you. Ashley has made some bad and costly mistakes, so yes we could have done a lot better. The issue is whether this kind of campaign, at this point, is going to do more harm than good. I'd say, for reasons I've already stated, that it can. You can look at the Pardew campaign, and the earlier attempt to force Ashley out, to see how things can backfire when the club spins out of control due to supporter pressure. As for what I'd change, I'd really like us to unearth the next Clough or Mourinho - someone who's going to over-achieve in a massive way - but there's an element of luck as well as judgement in that. I think the basic strategy of the club is right. Going on a spending spree in the hope that you'll then be able to start balancing the books in three years time when you're top of the league, doesn't work. FFP is also a big restriction. So the Arsenal model that they've made it clear that they're following is fine with me. It's the execution that's been poor. There's been two bad mistakes there - firstly, with the appointment of Keegan, who was never suited to working that model, and secondly with Kinnear as DOF, which undermined Pardew and led to complete inertia in decision-making. As for prioritising the league against the cups - everyone does that, for good reasons. There's been a fair bit of hysteria over the 10th place target statement - I don't believe that the club doesn't want to finish higher, but because Ashley is unpopular and tight with money that's how it's been spun. The most dodgy area at the moment is the free use of the ground for Sports Direct advertising. Ashley's thinking is probably - sod it, I've bailed this club out from near bankruptcy and given it a big, interest-free loan, I'm entitled to some payback. Also - I'm going to be unpopular anyway, so what the hell. There's a legacy of bitterness between supporters and owner from the Keegan era, which underpins that. Ashley isn't completely in the wrong here, but ideally he ought to pay for the advertising. Personally, I haven't given up hope of a good managerial appointment this summer and some new blood being brought in. It's not in Ashley's interests for the club to fail, after all, and in reality you can't have a strategy of only being good enough to finish mid-table. If that was ever his aim (and I doubt it) he'll have learned differently. Football isn't that exact a science. But we'll see. Tbh, I'm also a bit worried about the effect of all this on the morale of the players, at a time when we're still not completely safe from relegation. 'Support the team, not the regime' sounds very fine, but in practice this sort of campaign tends to happen in reaction to the team doing poorly, as is the case now. Final point on something that rankled with me. I noticed in this thread a Spurs supporter referring to us as a 'once great club'. Well, when was that exactly? No league titles for nearly 90 years, no domestic cups for 60, no major trophies for 45 years. We're a club that's still trying to build the foundations of success, but the mentality of many supporters doesn't seem to acknowledge that. We get accused of feeling we're 'entitled' to success, and while I don't think that's fair, I can see where the criticism comes from. Too many have got their head in the clouds a bit, and it tends to spill out in situations like this. Excuse the long post, but it's difficult to put 'my opinions of the club' in one paragraph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I think the basic strategy of the club is right. Going on a spending spree in the hope that you'll then be able to start balancing the books in three years time when you're top of the league, doesn't work. FFP is also a big restriction. So the Arsenal model that they've made it clear that they're following is fine with me. It's the execution that's been poor. u wot m8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 The Arsenal model where we are paying for a new stadium or the Arsenal model where we buy players like Sanchez and Ozil and quality for the champions league 14 years in a row? Edit fixed many typos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I've had 3 emails from the club this week advertising tickets for Spurs game. I've had several too including one at 6am today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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