geordiedean Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If Ashley was doing this to an Italian club say Lazio,Napoli,Palermo or most of serie a big clubs I genuinely believe he would have been killed by some crazy assed ultra groups or underworld Costa Nostra type As someone alluded to earlier us English are a passive type who embraces losers. We don't have a win at all costs mentality like other nations. We just say ah well at least we tried. Fuck off no one remembers a loser Just look at some of the losers who have been national hero icons....Frank Bruno Eddie the eagle and the national football,rugby and cricket teams. The Americans would laugh and be embarrassed at these chumps Herein lies the problem we just put up with this shit. When what really is needed is fans to storm the dressing room Italian style and let these cunts know a few home truths Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 http://ashleyout.com/articles/deja-vu/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Be well within their rights to just tell everyone to f*** off after the laughable lack of support the campaign got. Far too many are simply getting what they deserve. Things won't change much this time, gauranteed. Same muppets, same shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Be well within their rights to just tell everyone to f*** off after the laughable lack of support the campaign got. Far too many are simply getting what they deserve. Saw two lads handing out leaflets get abused and called mackems by a group of dicks outside the gallowgate last season. Unbelievable that some people a) aren't on the same side as them and b) would actually turn and abuse them for demanding a better club for everyone. Wouldn't be surprised if they hoyed the whole thing in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 We're easily top of the bell end league, a massive percentage of our support are just plain arseholes. I'd love an fc United type club to be formed, but if anyone tried then I'm certain they'd receive more abuse than Ashley ever has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 So i take it no one's cancelling Sky then but will continue to have a go at people for going to the match and lining Ashley's pockets, whilst they do the same from their own armchair. Until they realise this, we can't go any further in this debate. I haven't got a sky subscription, scab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 If Ashley was doing this to an Italian club say Lazio,Napoli,Palermo or most of serie a big clubs I genuinely believe he would have been killed by some crazy assed ultra groups or underworld Costa Nostra type As someone alluded to earlier us English are a passive type who embraces losers. We don't have a win at all costs mentality like other nations. We just say ah well at least we tried. f*** off no one remembers a loser Just look at some of the losers who have been national hero icons....Frank Bruno Eddie the eagle and the national football,rugby and cricket teams. The Americans would laugh and be embarrassed at these chumps Herein lies the problem we just put up with this s***. When what really is needed is fans to storm the dressing room Italian style and let these c***s know a few home truths Couldn't agree more. Was thinking this this morning. We're such fucking gutless people. Infuriating and embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 TBH Scousers wouldn't take it. Think it would've got very ugly for him at Rangers too. For all the stick we get as fans, we have been paper towels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Decent enough read if rather pointless; http://ashleyout.com/articles/deja-vu/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Decent enough read if rather pointless; http://ashleyout.com/articles/deja-vu/ Why pointless ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Decent enough read if rather pointless; http://ashleyout.com/articles/deja-vu/ Why pointless ? Because the wider fanbase won't bother to get themselves involved and support them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Because the wider fanbase won't bother to get themselves involved and support them. I agree it's very hard work getting support from the masses but I think it's better than nothing. Anything is better than nothing. I would guarantee that Mike Ashley will be aware if they start pushing stuff out through the media again and that alone has to be worth it as he's so fragile when it comes to criticism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 They'll be watched like hawk prey if the resulting interview is anything to go by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 In case anyone hasn't read the latest piece: Déjà vu? 29/11/2015 Game number 13. Unlucky for some. Deserved for others. Approximately 34% of the way through the season for those of you who would rather look at things a little more objectively. Newcastle at the end of this fixture were sitting on 10 points, and would seemingly finish on 30 points if more of what we’d seen thus far was yet to come, but how many of us could hand on heart say we’re even capable of hitting that? 2015 has become arguably the worst year in Newcastle United’s long history, with only 5 wins from as many as 33 (league) games. What’s even worse is the fact we’d have a points total of 23 points from those same games and even if you wanted to extend it to our last 38 league games we’d only have 26. So based on the fact, that in the Premier League era it takes approximately 38 points to stay in the division, that’s not only relegation form, that’s gone without the trace of a fight. Some more stats, 2 wins from 13 (15.38%), shots 125, shots on target 46, goals scored 13, goals against 25, average attendance 48,340. So what does that tell you – all you need to know about Newcastle United…and that was before the trip to Palace. Selhurst Park and a fixture that 8 years ago wouldn’t have existed. Since then, one club has been drenched in a downpour of disrespect and disregard for sporting ambition. The other is Crystal Palace. Newcastle on this occasion went ahead with Cisse opening the scoring, a lead short-lived before the oh-too-familiar capitulation that ensued. The goals conceded in this game took us to 30 and in line with the worst defensive record in Premier League history (Derby County with 89 across 38 games). So what’s changed? The same old people being served up the same old garbage. In the last 8 years Newcastle have been relegated once, which in itself is quite a feat, considering the mismanagement of the club from top to bottom. However, for 5 of the remaining 7 seasons it’s found itself languishing around lower-mid-table and hanging on the cliff edge of relegation. Only twice finishing in the top 10 with one season down in the Championship. For some football fans, who like to cling onto the mantra set by the media, us deluded Geordies are merely getting a taste of reality. However, the stark reality is that this is a one club city with enough in place to be at least, occasionally competing amongst some of Europe’s elite, if managed correctly. There’s been glimpses of this over the years, with the Newcastle United of the 50’s clinching the FA Cup on 3 occasions, in the 60’s when the Toon lifted the then Inter-cities fairs cup and some time later in the 90’s when Keegan’s entertainers went off like a firework in the top flight, inspiring the magpies of tomorrow such as myself. So what does a parent show or tell his or her children now? In the last 8 years he/she could say: “Look son, this is the club who got taken to court by the legendary Kevin Keegan and proven guilty.” “Look daughter, this is the man who disrespected the greatest goalscorer in our history.” or “Look kids, this was the cathedral on the hill where we all went to worship such legends as Sir Bobby, Keegan, Beardsley, Joe Harvey, Shearer and Wor Jackie. It’s the centre of our community, the heartbeat of our city but now it’s covered in Red and Blue tat and has no soul.” The fact of the matter is, that sport is about winning, it’s not just about taking part. We get involved with sport with the intention of being champions, the best a team can be, the best that each man or woman can be in their field of expertise. So why shouldn’t we aspire to being successful. What’s even more worrying is that it’s now seemingly acceptable to just fill up the league as another team that floats around from 7th to 17th. This is the case for many clubs, except for a few more recently such as Southampton or Swansea (who apparently we cannot compete with). That’s not because we physically cannot – it’s because mentally we’ve been duped into a safety net of Premier League stability and financial security. Ultimately, we’re a business being ran for business needs, as the slave to S***** D***** and its billionaire owner. This man (Ashley) and his staff were proven to be misleading the fans in court. He’s renamed our ground, covered it in crap and after just one speech and a swift summer of spending the money that the club generates itself, we the fans just sit back and say he’s turned the corner?! We must be daft. Therefore, is it time yet for those pessimists to tell those who had a little bit of hope left, that actually they were right about Ashley back in June? An underwhelming appointment (McClaren) by an underwhelming appointment (Charnley). The same underwhelming appointment who previously made a dismal appointment in John Carver who nearly dumped us into the Championship. Just how many bites do you get at a cherry? Yet, he followed on from an even more despicable man, Derek Llambias, who appointed the very average Alan Pardew. We can all see how Pardew is doing okay with Palace at present – but ultimately he overstayed his welcome at St James’. Not only for footballing matters but for being the mouthpiece of Llambias and his boss. Which brings us to the scout – Graham Carr. Without being involved deeper in the club it’s difficult to really establish who’s at fault for the transfer policy. But, regardless we’ve been found out, not only in France but in the Netherlands now too. We seem to be able to attract players for relatively cheap in today’s market, from both the Eredivisie and Ligue 1, on the premise that we can be the stepping stone for their move to somewhere like Arsenal or Manchester United. That only works if you play well when you get here! So now you reach the players, the same lads who have seen club heroes and their very own teammates treated with the utmost contempt even when suffering from life threatening illnesses such as cancer. They see the lack of sporting ambition, the lack of character, the lack of soul and they must think “What the hell am I doing here?!” Therefore, some can be forgiven. Despite this there are others that are paid healthily and whilst you can forgive some for not having the required talent or for being understandably disillusioned, you simply cannot forgive those with nothing but the wrong attitude. If you don’t want to be here, then put politely, go. So ultimately, here we are, in another year of the Ashley era as the club’s soul is slowly sucked away. He is the only common denominator in all of this mess. The dementor will leave with all the cash and leave this rotten shell of a club left to be reborn from the ashes, but why should we wait that long? We need to act, and we need to act United. #AshleyOut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Looks like they're back https://twitter.com/AshleyOutdotcom/status/675697531406442496 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Now they just need to find someone with £250m to spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 To be fair there are plenty of people with that kind of money, Ashley just needs a reason to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Don't worry man, he will sell when we win a trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 No way that cunt sells for that, not a chance in hell, he'll be wanting profit. Saw some journalist on Twitter the other day saying he'd talk twice to a middle east buyer but won't budge from 400m. Totally believable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 No way that c*** sells for that, not a chance in hell, he'll be wanting profit. Saw some journalist on Twitter the other day saying he'd talk twice to a middle east buyer but won't budge from 400m. Totally believable. Got a link for this mate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 No way that c*** sells for that, not a chance in hell, he'll be wanting profit. Saw some journalist on Twitter the other day saying he'd talk twice to a middle east buyer but won't budge from 400m. Totally believable. Got a link for this mate? Sorry no, no idea where to even find it now, I just read a couple of his tweets about it then moved on. Might be bollocks but I'd believe the price aspect easily enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 No way that c*** sells for that, not a chance in hell, he'll be wanting profit. Saw some journalist on Twitter the other day saying he'd talk twice to a middle east buyer but won't budge from 400m. Totally believable. Friend/former colleague of mine who used to work at The Sun is now sports editor of one of the UAE papers. There are very strong rumours that someone in Dubai has come in with £300m which Ashley knocked back immediately, saying he wants £1/2 billion. Guy is desperate to be able to stand the story up for obvious reasons - but he can't. Insists that conversations have taken place but no quotes = no story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 That's very interesting if true. Ashley has knocked back interest from that part of the world before, so wouldn't surprise me one bit. Is there anything on this over in the ME media? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 That's very interesting if true. Ashley has knocked back interest from that part of the world before, so wouldn't surprise me one bit. Is there anything on this over in the ME media? No. Nothing more than rumours, albeit I am assured that conversations have taken place. The progress of these discussions? Sad to report that they have progressed far less than anyone who wants rid of the slug might want. i.e., it would be generous to describe any potential deal even as 'putative'. I really wish there were more, but the party who apparently made the bid is, of course, Dubai Royal Family, and I know from personal experience (2006-8 I was business editor of a national daily in the same country - a job that brought more red flags to my desk daily than you'd see at a Komsomol rally) that you need to be very, very careful about what you print - even stuff that's triple sourced and you know to be 100% true. I had to spike dozens of absolutely dynamite economic stories because I'd have ended up in jail/deported/etc. So it literally is a case of this being more than his job's worth. Couple of colleagues of mine lost their jobs over innocuous stories. One got the sack for using the word 'bitch' in a piece. Neither the Editor or the GM wanted to let him go, of course, but phone calls had been received and commandments cast down. I'm sure you're aware that glitzy as it may be, Dubai in general and the UAE in particular is still a banana republic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Cheers mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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