afar Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Walk outs won't work, posters and banners won't work, relegations we've seen don't work, the only hope we have is that someone else comes in with big enough pockets to buy the club off him, that means we have to look like something worth investing in. I applaud these guys for doing what they are doing but it will be ridiculed by the national press and other fans who will see it as another Pardewout type capaign, deluded Geordies etc etc. I honestly don't see any realistic solutions to all this. That same ridiculed SackPardew that resulted in Pardew leaving and us ending up with Benitez further down the line. We're not deluded for wanting our club to at least compete with Brighton, Bournemouth, Swansea etc. I couldn't give a s*** what the press have to say in that regard and nor should any fan. Not sure how much role the campaign played in that, he must have known he was hugely unpopular long before the flyers started showing up and remember he was give free reign at his former club. Of course we are not deluded, that's not the national narrative though, and that's the level we have to work out to force change with Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Pardew was not ousted by SackPardew. He'd still be here if Palace didn't come for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Is it deluded to expect the same level of backing for Rafa as was afforded to Steve McLaren? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Walk outs won't work, posters and banners won't work, relegations we've seen don't work, the only hope we have is that someone else comes in with big enough pockets to buy the club off him, that means we have to look like something worth investing in. I applaud these guys for doing what they are doing but it will be ridiculed by the national press and other fans who will see it as another Pardewout type capaign, deluded Geordies etc etc. I honestly don't see any realistic solutions to all this. That same ridiculed SackPardew that resulted in Pardew leaving and us ending up with Benitez further down the line. We're not deluded for wanting our club to at least compete with Brighton, Bournemouth, Swansea etc. I couldn't give a s*** what the press have to say in that regard and nor should any fan. Not sure how much role the campaign played in that, he must have known he was hugely unpopular long before the flyers started showing up and remember he was give free reign at his former club. Of course we are not deluded, that's not the national narrative though, and that's the level we have to work out to force change with Ashley. It certainly didn't help him stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The campaign literally made Pardew cry. I'm pretty sure it'll have been a factor in his decision considering the unpopularity definitely wasn't aimed squarely at him pre SackPardew. That's by the by though, making the club attractive will do nothing but make it attractive to it's current owner, who would then have no reason to sell. There's not really any logic to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Perhaps it's time to make his life unbearable. The weakest point in any regime is the leader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The campaign literally made Pardew cry. I'm pretty sure it'll have been a factor in his decision considering the unpopularity definitely wasn't aimed squarely at him pre SackPardew. That's by the by though, making the club attractive will do nothing but make it attractive to it's current owner, who would then have no reason to sell. There's not really any logic to it. Exactly what I said, there is no simple solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 I agree with whoever said we need to target his shitty company. If we can somehow damage their reputation and their share price goes down, Ashley and major shareholders will get pissed off and the fat cunt will be forced to sell us to take the heat off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Pardew was not ousted by SackPardew. He'd still be here if Palace didn't come for him. Not true. He turned them down previous to the campaign. It was clear as day they knew they'd get him this time. Correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Pardew was not ousted by SackPardew. He'd still be here if Palace didn't come for him. He'd turned them down less than 12 months previous. Without the SackPardew lot and they pressure they put on him he wouldn't have walked away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 got to target his precious sports direct - the only thing he's gives a s*** about. Yep. Even people who can't stop going to matches can do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 People say protests and boycotts won't work. Either due to fans having paid for tickets in advance, or the fact TV revenue far outweighs the gate receipts. All bullshit of course, because if we damaged the PL SKY brand by having St James' empty every game, opposing fans and the media might actually question the real reason "50 thousand screaming Geordies" have all simultaneously fucked off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 People say protests and boycotts won't work. Either due to fans having paid for tickets in advance, or the fact TV revenue far outweighs the gate receipts. All bullshit of course, because if we damaged the PL SKY brand by having St James' empty every game, opposing fans and the media might actually question the real reason "50 thousand screaming Geordies" have all simultaneously f***ed off. Even better if 50000 screaming geordies all rang up tomorrow to cancel their sky package. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 People say protests and boycotts won't work. Either due to fans having paid for tickets in advance, or the fact TV revenue far outweighs the gate receipts. All bullshit of course, because if we damaged the PL SKY brand by having St James' empty every game, opposing fans and the media might actually question the real reason "50 thousand screaming Geordies" have all simultaneously f***ed off. Even better if 50000 screaming geordies all rang up tomorrow to cancel their sky package. Are you dense? What about the MILLIONS of sky subscribers of the PL and EFL teams? Do you genuinely think Sky give a toss if even 100,000 North East households pack in their Sky sports package? And even if they did care, are they going to penalise Ashley and deduct our cut of the TV revenue to compensate for our lack of regional contribution through TV services? If St James' was empty, it makes the fans and media of other clubs wonder and question why. Nobody gives a shit if Barry from Cruddas Park cancels his £18 pound a month PL package, because that doesn't represent an empty seat on TV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 People say protests and boycotts won't work. Either due to fans having paid for tickets in advance, or the fact TV revenue far outweighs the gate receipts. All bullshit of course, because if we damaged the PL SKY brand by having St James' empty every game, opposing fans and the media might actually question the real reason "50 thousand screaming Geordies" have all simultaneously f***ed off. Even better if 50000 screaming geordies all rang up tomorrow to cancel their sky package. Are you dense? What about the MILLIONS of sky subscribers of the PL and EFL teams? Do you genuinely think Sky give a toss if even 100,000 North East households pack in their Sky sports package? And even if they did care, are they going to penalise Ashley and deduct our cut of the TV revenue to compensate for our lack of regional contribution through TV services? If St James' was empty, it makes the fans and media of other clubs wonder and question why. Nobody gives a s*** if Barry from Cruddas Park cancels his £18 pound a month PL package, because that doesn't represent an empty seat on TV. Are you? I didn't say instead of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 People say protests and boycotts won't work. Either due to fans having paid for tickets in advance, or the fact TV revenue far outweighs the gate receipts. All bullshit of course, because if we damaged the PL SKY brand by having St James' empty every game, opposing fans and the media might actually question the real reason "50 thousand screaming Geordies" have all simultaneously f***ed off. Even better if 50000 screaming geordies all rang up tomorrow to cancel their sky package. Are you dense? What about the MILLIONS of sky subscribers of the PL and EFL teams? Do you genuinely think Sky give a toss if even 100,000 North East households pack in their Sky sports package? And even if they did care, are they going to penalise Ashley and deduct our cut of the TV revenue to compensate for our lack of regional contribution through TV services? If St James' was empty, it makes the fans and media of other clubs wonder and question why. Nobody gives a s*** if Barry from Cruddas Park cancels his £18 pound a month PL package, because that doesn't represent an empty seat on TV. Are you? I didn't say instead of. So regardless, my point still stands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 People say protests and boycotts won't work. Either due to fans having paid for tickets in advance, or the fact TV revenue far outweighs the gate receipts. All bullshit of course, because if we damaged the PL SKY brand by having St James' empty every game, opposing fans and the media might actually question the real reason "50 thousand screaming Geordies" have all simultaneously f***ed off. Even better if 50000 screaming geordies all rang up tomorrow to cancel their sky package. Are you dense? What about the MILLIONS of sky subscribers of the PL and EFL teams? Do you genuinely think Sky give a toss if even 100,000 North East households pack in their Sky sports package? And even if they did care, are they going to penalise Ashley and deduct our cut of the TV revenue to compensate for our lack of regional contribution through TV services? If St James' was empty, it makes the fans and media of other clubs wonder and question why. Nobody gives a s*** if Barry from Cruddas Park cancels his £18 pound a month PL package, because that doesn't represent an empty seat on TV. Are you? I didn't say instead of. So regardless, my point still stands So you don't think people actively turning away from other brands, based on Ashley's brand would have any impact on his dealings in the business world. Ashley's customers are so disillusioned that they are deserting every company he associates with. That's the kind of shit that destroys people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Ashley revels in the fact that Newcastle fans will go through hell or high water to watch their club. He'll get his slice somehow. It doesn't affect him if Sodexo lose out on 50000 pie sales one week. Maybe all we'll get is a sharp drop in wallpaper prices, but we could redecorate Britain in preparation for our new dawn of prosperity. "Bring back the Chintz" After all surely it was Ashley who bought it all when we chucked it out last time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Walk outs won't work, posters and banners won't work, relegations we've seen don't work, the only hope we have is that someone else comes in with big enough pockets to buy the club off him, that means we have to look like something worth investing in. I applaud these guys for doing what they are doing but it will be ridiculed by the national press and other fans who will see it as another Pardewout type capaign, deluded Geordies etc etc. I honestly don't see any realistic solutions to all this. That same ridiculed SackPardew that resulted in Pardew leaving and us ending up with Benitez further down the line. We're not deluded for wanting our club to at least compete with Brighton, Bournemouth, Swansea etc. I couldn't give a s*** what the press have to say in that regard and nor should any fan. Not sure how much role the campaign played in that, he must have known he was hugely unpopular long before the flyers started showing up and remember he was give free reign at his former club. Of course we are not deluded, that's not the national narrative though, and that's the level we have to work out to force change with Ashley. Of course he knew he was unpopular, but if you were to believe the media (which unfortunately most do) it was down to him being a cockney and nothing to do with his managerially ability. The media would've continued to make out Pardew to be some footballing genius if it wasn't for SackPardew coming together and pointing out how much of a charlatan he is with genuine facts and stats, laid out for all to see. It's no coincidence that the media turned on him when SackPardew came along. No longer could they get away with lazy journalism now that there was facts out there that even your average Super Sunday viewer could digest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It's time for FC United of Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 From my memory if you protest against Ashley you are not supporting the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 From my memory if you protest against Ashley you are not supporting the team. I'll never forget being shouted at by fans for joining in with the SP and AO campaign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It's time for FC United of Newcastle. What's the transfer budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 It's time for FC United of Newcastle. Maybe, but FC United of Manchester haven't exactly damaged the progress of, or support for, Manchester United FC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 From next match and until he leaves or dies we should cover the stadium with Ashley out signs and keep on cheering the players and Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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