Robster Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I await Ashley vindictive response with bated breath. This has probably confirmed the job for Carver Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonTastic Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I await Ashley vindictive response with bated breath. This has probably confirmed the job for Carver He'd be screwing himself over doing that, kinda guarantees relegation next season which you'd imagine would cost him a few quid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I await Ashley vindictive response with bated breath. This has probably confirmed the job for Carver He'd be screwing himself over doing that, kinda guarantees relegation next season which you'd imagine would cost him a few quid. I agree and I think all level headed football fans would agree. I do however, think that Ashley is daft (and vindictive) enough to go for the gamble though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 He is a petty man, used to getting his own way and vindictive if anything thwarts him. When it comes to football he is also a stupid man. Eight years he's been here and he hasn't learnt a thing judging by his failure to secure Remi Garde. All he had to do was employ a manager that gelled with the recruitment policy and favoured attacking football. The majority in the stadium would have been content with that. He could have sat in the background and skimmed to his hearts content if the football was good. Hope this campaign ultimately has some positive effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxjw694GJ1qg39ewo1_500.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Wish this campaign the very best - will do whatever I can to help and support. Unfortunately, they face an uphill struggle like with the previous campaign because of a lot of our 'general' fans. It's no wonder Ashley picked us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Got a mention on .com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hozzo Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 seen a few media articles, seems to be a swell for support against Ashley ... good news, but I fear, he will address this in the summer, new manager (with the lower expectations a lot of us have now) and a few new players (and a few more big earners leaving) and the situation will be back to normal for next season ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'm all for it (and surprised at anyone who isn't). A few things on it that need to be said I think. The guys may not have a 'viable plan' for getting rid of Ashley, (whatever that means), but they are successfully creating a hub for an alternative narrative to be heard, and a community to foster. Living in Scotland, one of conclusions the Yes campaign had around the referendum was the need to create a new voice and a new media that supported the independence movement, since they believed very few establishment papers and media outlets allowed a balanced view. Now without getting into the referendum too much ask yourself this - where do people find facts about Ashley's dealings in NUFC. The Chronicle? The Journal? Talksport? The BBC? The Mag? You've got here, you've got a couple columnists, but little else since the media are either running scared, or banned. How many times have we said - "why doesn't the chronicle do some investigative journalism on the club"? So yeah, I hope these guys look to bring more people in, to encourage a community of people who are fed up with the regime to protest, to write, to investigate, to do creative things (Civil unrest, fundraisers, parties, etc.) to encourage the dissilussioned fans who have left to join something. Some other thoughts - 1. I think using this forum as a link to discuss plans would be good - as much as anonymity is good - there should be strength in numbers - we all have gifts we could bring to this. 2. Shine a light on Ashley's other business dealings - Zero hours contracts, perhaps some investigative work around Sports Direct, looking at practices (we know the shop is a disgrace, and there will be dirt) 3. The 'viable plan' - the end game - what is it? If this acts as a way of Ashley leaving - do we just say sell to another hawk who will ruin us, or as has happened before (an failed) do we as fans again try to engage with fan ownership. A wild thought might be a campaign for everyone who gives up their season ticket to donate that cash into an account - either a single, transparent credit union with accounts published, and a time limit for how long it sits - and if it doesn't work making sure everyone is reimbursed, or to work alongside the credit union to have small savings accounts for everyone set up to put the cost of season tickets into their own account and eventually pool it, should there ever be enough to buy, using fans money and other investors. Obviously that means convincing 52,000 people to give up and pay 500 quid, which is crazy, but even if enough gave up that money and used it for the campaign, then it could be a start for things to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Wish this campaign the very best - will do whatever I can to help and support. Unfortunately, they face an uphill struggle like with the previous campaign because of a lot of our 'general' fans. It's no wonder Ashley picked us. The ONLY way any campaign will work is if it can drum up the £300 Million it'd take to buy Ashley out, any campaign that cannot have that as it's aim is a waste of time. (and that's hardly realistic is it). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Very salient points on the media there Ali. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'm confused, have they redefined the word 'fickle'? They better not have re-defined the word "bellend" because I'll be needing it very soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Delighted this is happening and can't believe some people don't think it will at least make the fat cunt skwirm The fact is John fucking carver is about to become our manager full time, now is the time for something to be done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 People citing a waste of time puzzle me. If nothing else it's an organised and united opportunity to vent some anger and the in the unlikely event it enacts some positive consequence then what's lost? Nothing to be gained from what's happening now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Wish this campaign the very best - will do whatever I can to help and support. Unfortunately, they face an uphill struggle like with the previous campaign because of a lot of our 'general' fans. It's no wonder Ashley picked us. The ONLY way any campaign will work is if it can drum up the £300 Million it'd take to buy Ashley out, any campaign that cannot have that as it's aim is a waste of time. (and that's hardly realistic is it). Negativity is like a klaxon for you isn't it? You must sit in your 1 bed flat fapping over the 2008 property crash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I've got an idea on how we can sort out this fickle bullshit: Why don't we fucking ask the posters on here who supports other clubs whether they think the SackPardew.com made us look fickle or not. I'm pretty sure Neil (an Everton fan) has already said he thought it was a good campaign. Can we have the opinions of brummie (Aston Villa), LEFE (Spurs), Village Idiot (Barcelona), Stray Mackem, hithere (Sunderland), 1878(Everton), George Constanza and wacko (both Liverpool) please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 and Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 and Mike. Knew that was coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Wish this campaign the very best - will do whatever I can to help and support. Unfortunately, they face an uphill struggle like with the previous campaign because of a lot of our 'general' fans. It's no wonder Ashley picked us. The ONLY way any campaign will work is if it can drum up the £300 Million it'd take to buy Ashley out, any campaign that cannot have that as it's aim is a waste of time. (and that's hardly realistic is it). Negativity is like a klaxon for you isn't it? You must sit in your 1 bed flat fapping over the 2008 property crash. I'm actually sat in my study, and it's not negativity, it's reality. The ONLY way to shift Ashley is to buy him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I don't recall you saying protests against Shepherd were a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Wish this campaign the very best - will do whatever I can to help and support. Unfortunately, they face an uphill struggle like with the previous campaign because of a lot of our 'general' fans. It's no wonder Ashley picked us. The ONLY way any campaign will work is if it can drum up the £300 Million it'd take to buy Ashley out, any campaign that cannot have that as it's aim is a waste of time. (and that's hardly realistic is it). Negativity is like a klaxon for you isn't it? You must sit in your 1 bed flat fapping over the 2008 property crash. I'm actually sat in my study, and it's not negativity, it's reality. The ONLY way to shift Ashley is to buy him out. It's a fair point though - If the fanbase were to consider a buyout, then at the very least they would need 250,000,000 - and that amounts to roughly 5000 per every person sitting in the stands, which strikes me as unfeasible! Yet, if things fans ever did coordinate a buyout, it would need to be professionally set up, (i.e. a charity/trust/foundation), money would need to be raised from talking to potential investors, coordinated fan donations, campaigns, investment strategies and (controversially) perhaps fans actively lowering the value of the club on the market (i.e. boycotting commercial revenue streams for the club, civil unrest etc.) Its not like all of that is impossible, just a bug ask, and requires coordinated action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I've got an idea on how we can sort out this fickle bullshit: Why don't we f***ing ask the posters on here who supports other clubs whether they think the SackPardew.com made us look fickle or not. I'm pretty sure Neil (an Everton fan) has already said he thought it was a good campaign. Can we have the opinions of brummie (Aston Villa), LEFE (Spurs), Village Idiot (Barcelona), Stray Mackem, hithere (Sunderland), 1878(Everton), George Constanza and wacko (both Liverpool) please? Absolutely not, Sackpardew was a great campaign. It backed up its claims quite well and the slogans and actions were good and reasoned; it didn't came across as hysterical. Was the "we want a club that tries" banner part of it? I think it summed up the sentiment pretty well. The 5th place season was three years ago, followed by two pretty miserable seasons. People deserve to have fun watching football, the "know your place and don't complain" mentality in current football (extends to stuff like abusive ticket prices in spite of huge TV contracts) is poisonous It's always nice to see fans fighting against that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinner99 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The only way to get Ashley out is to damage his brand. The way to do that is to present an empty stadium to the tv cameras. Three or four home games without any fans and he is gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 The only way to get Ashley out is to damage his brand. The way to do that is to present an empty stadium to the tv cameras. Three or four home games without any fans and he is gone. Presenting an empty stadium would be amazing - a coordinated 'stay at home', it might not get him to give it up, but it would raise eyebrows. The other part of this is that people want to still have the day out, drink and football, so again, looking at campaigns/ideas that might fill the gap. Can a campaign be started on those days to see your local team (blyth, gateshead, shields etc.) bringing in local teams to it? On televised games at home, can the group think big enough to organise viewings elsewhere instead of going to the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Have a massive piss up outside and have a banner with 'mediocrity celebration' nothing else and have a few Ashley chants with everyone outside the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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