Wullie Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Think a decent majority of ppl going to games now are students and day trippers not from the area. A majority? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Think a decent majority of ppl going to games now are students and day trippers not from the area. Imagine growing up in the 90's and early 00's supporting us and then finally making it over to SJP to see us for the first time in 2015. How grim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 No point cutting off your nose to spite your face though. No point just saying they deserve it, because we have to suffer it as well. Yeah, no one deserves it, they're just loyal fans hoping to see their club do well, and getting s*** on in the process. I don't mean that to be honest. I mean that giving up on the club i.e. not protesting etc. and bothering because other fans have p*ssed you off just means that you won't ever get a proper club back. Personally I don't think we will get a proper club back while there are that many absolute fuckwits facilitating Ashley's miserable business plan. Absolutely no excuses for going to the game nowadays. Don't care if you've got a little kid, or a 200 year old dad who might not make the next game, every single penny that goes into the club is another nail in the coffin. and tbh, if kids are your justification, then you should be the one putting up the most fight, unless you want them to suffer a lifetime of this s***. Or perhaps 10 years of this s*** until he's milked us dry, followed by a lifetime in the doldrums. I dunno if the second part is directed at me or not but...I'm not defending the people going to games, I think they are part of the problem tbh. I'm just saying, there's no point in the rest of us saying they deserve this so let them suffer it because ultimately we also have to suffer it. I'm saying that to get change we're probably going to need lots of people pulling in the same direction and that means a lot of match going fans will need to be involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 I don't blame people for going to games, I think people are entitled to want to go and watch the team through thick and thin, and I don't demand everyone thinks as I do. What I do object to is people who want to protest but think that turning up and booing is enough, or holding up signs, or leaving after so long. The only thing that may remotely make a difference is a half empty stadium. I do think however that too many idiot students or whatever fill the stadium these days, hence the fucking awful atmosphere. The people who care have long since deserted us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 No point cutting off your nose to spite your face though. No point just saying they deserve it, because we have to suffer it as well. Yeah, no one deserves it, they're just loyal fans hoping to see their club do well, and getting s*** on in the process. Are they fuck loyal, they are stupid. If your dog is dying you don't let it suffer, you put it out of its misery. By going and spending money they are actively supporting Ashley and his model and they are also encouraging it by buying into it in the way they do. NUFC fans are their own worst enemy and always have been. Its not admiral to keep going when the chips are down or to keep applauding shite on the pitch, its moronic and at no other club so partizan as Newcastle United would the likes of Ashley be allowed to ride roughshod over everything in the manner he has. Look at Rangers and how opposed they are to him. Look at Liverpool and how opposed they were to their previous owners and even Man Utd fans with the Glazers. Owners who Newcastle could only dream of having. I've never been more embarrassed to be a NUFC fan than against Hull at home last season. That day was worse than any mackem defeat or relegation. Not that it suprised me. There should have been riots in the streets at the renaming of SJP. Mike Ashley should need a small army to guard him as he steps foot inside SJP. Instead... people say he has spent money, that its not his fault, that we turn a profit. Lets see how things go with the new man and the new players. Nothing has changed and nothing will change until he is removed as owner and that will not happen as long as 48-50K idiots continue to put money in his pockets and applaud the shower of shit he puts in the dugout and out on the pitch. I long to step foot inside SJP to feel that love and pride for my team, my club. That's not my team out there and this is not my club and never will be under these cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Hear fucking hear. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. When will we learn? When it's too late. I'd argue it now already is. The Keegan drive and SBR consolidation are long behind us. The generation of support that garnered will never be repeated and the club has lost the identity from decades of support leading to those days. What's left to remind us of 120 years of NUFC? Nothing. And it'll remain that way, indeed diminish further as long as Mike Ashley is in situ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 To me when I think back over the last 8 years all I get is Sports Direct, relegation, derby day defeats, Pardew's smug face, Kinnear in the dugout, Ben Arfa being drove out, Carver and then Jonas being told to fuck off despite saving the club from relegation again. Utter grim. Nothing nice or memorable at all. What a waste of 8 fucking years. When the the history books refer to this chapter all it needs is a Sports Direct sign. There has been no football or football club. Its a shell of a club and the fans are not Newcastle United supporters any more, they are Premier League customers now there to watch a game of Premier League football. Cheers Mike! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Looking back, I was naive to think we might have been able to put differences aside when we got promoted. It looked like the club had united itself somewhat, with everyone pulling in the same direction. Then we binned Hughton and flogged Carroll. The club simply can't help but shoot itself in the foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Good to read more criticism of Newcastle fans on Newcastle-Online Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko cunts purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 If there's any truth to the old saying: "there was never an angry man that thought his anger unjust," then 'random thicko cunts', the angry ones at least, probably think they are correct. Which, no doubt, makes them think it is people who don't share their remarkable insight into the human condition, vagaries of supporting sports teams, and the 'certainties' of the business world, who are the actual random thicko cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko cunts purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant twats pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko cunts', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko cunts purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant twats pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko cunts', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. surely pulling in 50k is reason enough for the clubs ownership to feel they dont need to do anything other that just scrape by in the prem league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 We have an owner who doesn't give two fucks about the club and is using it purely to advertise his shops at the lowest cost he can. We have fans who appear to be able to rationalise any cynical act he performs and keep turning up, which in turn makes his successful performance of the first aspect much easier. There is only one way we get change or this is it, until the pick prick does us a favour and dies. So while I applaud Foluwashola continually standing up for the common fan it's ludicrous not to acknowledge that by then continuing to attend in such numbers they are participating in prolonging the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 We have an owner who doesn't give two fucks about the club and is using it purely to advertise his shops at the lowest cost he can. We have fans who appear to be able to rationalise any cynical act he performs and keep turning up, which in turn makes his successful performance of the first aspect much easier. There is only one way we get change or this is it, until the pick prick does us a favour and dies. So while I applaud Foluwashola continually standing up for the common fan it's ludicrous not to acknowledge that by then continuing to attend in such numbers they are participating in prolonging the situation. I'm bringing back QFT for this one, we'll said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 To me when I think back over the last 8 years all I get is Sports Direct, relegation, derby day defeats, Pardew's smug face, Kinnear in the dugout, Ben Arfa being drove out, Carver and then Jonas being told to f*** off despite saving the club from relegation again. Utter grim. Nothing nice or memorable at all. What a waste of 8 f***ing years. When the the history books refer to this chapter all it needs is a Sports Direct sign. There has been no football or football club. Its a shell of a club and the fans are not Newcastle United supporters any more, they are Premier League customers now there to watch a game of Premier League football. Cheers Mike! A very good summary Glad I wrapped in my season ticket so I'm not part of it anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I could forgive 50000 turning up if they actually supported the team as opposed to sitting silently observing the dogshit we serve up. Worst fans in the country to be honest, theres nowt they offer the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Reckon a fair portion who were the atmosphere creators have packed it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Reckon a fair portion who were the atmosphere creators have packed it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 As much as I feel disconnected from the club itself, I feel the most distance from the other supporters. Where I used to be fiercely proud of identifying as a Newcastle fan, I feel like I've got absolutely nothing in common with the majority now, in terms of what we want from the club. Makes me feel quite sad really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 One thing is to be said - if we do go down, loads of the day-trippers will disappear with no PL football to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 No point cutting off your nose to spite your face though. No point just saying they deserve it, because we have to suffer it as well. Yeah, no one deserves it, they're just loyal fans hoping to see their club do well, and getting s*** on in the process. Are they f*** loyal, they are stupid. If your dog is dying you don't let it suffer, you put it out of its misery. By going and spending money they are actively supporting Ashley and his model and they are also encouraging it by buying into it in the way they do. NUFC fans are their own worst enemy and always have been. Its not admiral to keep going when the chips are down or to keep applauding s**** on the pitch, its moronic and at no other club so partizan as Newcastle United would the likes of Ashley be allowed to ride roughshod over everything in the manner he has. Look at Rangers and how opposed they are to him. Look at Liverpool and how opposed they were to their previous owners and even Man Utd fans with the Glazers. Owners who Newcastle could only dream of having. I've never been more embarrassed to be a NUFC fan than against Hull at home last season. That day was worse than any mackem defeat or relegation. Not that it suprised me. There should have been riots in the streets at the renaming of SJP. Mike Ashley should need a small army to guard him as he steps foot inside SJP. Instead... people say he has spent money, that its not his fault, that we turn a profit. Lets see how things go with the new man and the new players. Nothing has changed and nothing will change until he is removed as owner and that will not happen as long as 48-50K idiots continue to put money in his pockets and applaud the shower of s*** he puts in the dugout and out on the pitch. I long to step foot inside SJP to feel that love and pride for my team, my club. That's not my team out there and this is not my club and never will be under these c***s. :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 To me when I think back over the last 8 years all I get is Sports Direct, relegation, derby day defeats, Pardew's smug face, Kinnear in the dugout, Ben Arfa being drove out, Carver and then Jonas being told to f*** off despite saving the club from relegation again. Utter grim. Nothing nice or memorable at all. What a waste of 8 f***ing years. When the the history books refer to this chapter all it needs is a Sports Direct sign. There has been no football or football club. Its a shell of a club and the fans are not Newcastle United supporters any more, they are Premier League customers now there to watch a game of Premier League football. Cheers Mike! in that time look at the journey Southampton and Leicester have had.. I know which i would rather have had and it doesn't included sports direct tat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 You need people not turning up and the people who are turning up making the soundbites of discontent. There was a nice balance of that thanks to AO at the end of last season. AO need to be kickstarted again. The later it's left the more damage that will be done. The removal of Ashley is the removal of the problem. We can then nurse our wounds and come back fighting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 To me when I think back over the last 8 years all I get is Sports Direct, relegation, derby day defeats, Pardew's smug face, Kinnear in the dugout, Ben Arfa being drove out, Carver and then Jonas being told to f*** off despite saving the club from relegation again. Utter grim. Nothing nice or memorable at all. What a waste of 8 f***ing years. When the the history books refer to this chapter all it needs is a Sports Direct sign. There has been no football or football club. Its a shell of a club and the fans are not Newcastle United supporters any more, they are Premier League customers now there to watch a game of Premier League football. Cheers Mike! in that time look at the journey Southampton and Leicester have had.. I know which i would rather have had and it doesn't included sports direct tat Exactly. I don't subscribe to this belief that going down equals immediate doom. Although I'd rather we stayed with competent ownership. The lies and myths concocted to vindicate Ashley's actions by the press. Can you imagine if he owned Liverpool? There'd have been a media reckoning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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