Mattoon Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 38 minutes ago, gbandit said: An unspeakably awful article https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/13/gareth-southgates-only-lies-in-giving-england-fans-what-they-want What a load of pseudo-intellectual crap, I stopped reading after 342 paragraphs. Failing to see the nuance of criticising certain failings whilst also appreciating the progress made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 First decent side Wokegate has come up against tomorrow. Normally only ends one way. Let’s see if he can buck the trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 10 hours ago, Disco said: Seems to have absolutely rattled all the worst people alive Top work from them. As a Portuguese living in the beach I can relate to everything that is written in there. Just dont shit on the English breakfast. Its great! There is a coffee down my street run by an old british couple that serves breakfasts every morning. Love it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 3 hours ago, gbandit said: An unspeakably awful article https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jul/13/gareth-southgates-only-lies-in-giving-england-fans-what-they-want That is the worst thing I've ever read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 A truly terrible, whinging, and miserable bloke and writer. He’s absolute Guardian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 Having read that article, I read this book either about Euro88 or featuring it heavily first, think it was specifically about the fans - the English hooligans, the Danish rolligans and the ability of some to go home after the games where England fans were stuck there. Was reminded of it earlier in the tournament and was going to get a copy but cannot for the life of me remember what it was called or find anything in searching that looks like it could that. Anybody know? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Does England winning the Euros count as a force majeure? Edited July 14 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 The Guardian take on just about everything is dire. Centrists Dad's will wank over that article nearly as much as they wank over "James O'Brien in a dress" that is Maria Hyde Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Nice thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Du du Du duuu-du-du-du Du-du du-duuu-d-du-du-dudu Du-duuu-du-du-du Du duuu-du-du-du Du-du du-du-duuu Du duuu ENGLAND 🏴 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leffe186 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 18 hours ago, Danh1 said: First decent side Wokegate has come up against tomorrow. Normally only ends one way. Let’s see if he can buck the trend. Don’t over-egg the pudding man. First really good side he’s come up against at the Euros. We’ve scraped past a couple of decent ones already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Sven watching the match like The Captain watching the bridge in Good Bad and the Ugly has made me unironically change my tune. I hope you lot win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mike said: Sven watching the match like The Captain watching the bridge in Good Bad and the Ugly has made me unironically change my tune. I hope you lot win. We’ve had a few Man with No Name trilogy references in the last couple of days. Edited July 14 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Gutted, start the PL now so I can forget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Hopefully the end for both Southgate and old man never win anything Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I think they need to phase Kane out of the side. Watkins offers much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Kane could still be great for England with runners beyond him. He’s scored a ludicrous amount this season. Playing him up top on his own with nobody getting past him and nobody stretching the play on the flanks is not going to work though - he’s too slow for that IMO harsh to blame the player for what are tactical errors made repeatedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 32 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: I think they need to phase Kane out of the side. Watkins offers much more. 100% - everyone knows - other than Southgate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) The next iteration of this team should be quite exciting at least. I'm not sure who I would get in - the best English manager is Howe and I don't want him going anywhere. Potter maybe? Even that feels a little underwhelming. If we could get someone like Klopp even for a tournament that would be brilliant, as much as I find him annoying. Whoever it is has to be able to nit together a cohesive attack from some fantastic players to choose from: Gordon, Saka, Palmer, Foden, Bellingham are all young and brilliant. Kane is clearly on the turn, but I think he has one more tournament in him as long as you get pace running off him which is something we lacked this tournament. I've made my feelings on Southgate clear, he's done a fantastic job sorting out the culture of the England setup and has overall done a good job to get the finishes we have in tournaments, but to go that next step we need someone more capable tactically. Sad he couldn't get it over the line, he's built a lot of the foundation for success but it's really time for a fresh start now. If he stays on now it'll turn toxic so quickly, it's already happened over the last month. The pieces are there though for this group of players to continue challenging in the latter stages of tournaments for the next decade. I've come out of tonight obviously deflated but quite optimistic for the future - as long as we get the managerial appointment right. Edited July 14 by LiquidAK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, El Prontonise said: I think they need to phase Kane out of the side. Watkins offers much more. I think you're being generous, I'd suggest he gets a goodbye appearance in a Wembley friendly soon and we move on ASAP. As long as he's available he's picked and whilst he'll always be good for a pen and the odd goal, it hurts us so much for most of the time he's on. It's like watching 2005/06 Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Think we'll be actually get worse tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 You'll never get a better draw. Weak group. Nothing on their side of the bracket. Switzerland were the best team they faced before the final. Switzerland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 16 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: 'm not sure who I would get in @Alan Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sempiternal Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, Mike said: @Alan Pardew M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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