Foluwashola Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He is 100% correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He is 100% correct. I must admit I didn't actually watch the video Just saw the title, and it's very misleading he's not promoting the likes over PArdew or Howe over Wenger and Ponc... like it's suggesting he's promoting the need to keep old English players in the game, which is fair enough although I really don't care if Lampard or Gerard are going to have an easier time to get their coaching badges !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He's 100% wrong. Not least because our managers are all fucking horribly unqualified to lead the national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He's 100% wrong. Not least because our managers are all f***ing horribly unqualified to lead the national team. Exactly. Idealistically sure, realistically Howe is the only Englishman I would consider and I think it would be a potential disservice to him and his career to become England Coach right now. He would certainly bring a freshness to the set up which is absolutely needed. Otherwise it is just groundhog day. I hope we persuade Wenger to take it, hope the same in the summer too. He would at least bring some class back to the position which I can't even remember when we last had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He's 100% wrong. Not least because our managers are all fucking horribly unqualified to lead the national team. I think he's angling for the job himself. I wouldn't be averse to it but only on a very short trial. I'm not convinced by Shearer's credentials at all, nor was I when he was here, but he might have a Klinsmann/Germany effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He's 100% wrong. Not least because our managers are all fucking horribly unqualified to lead the national team. I think he's angling for the job himself. I wouldn't be averse to it but only on a very short trial. I'm not convinced by Shearer's credentials at all, nor was I when he was here, but he might have a Klinsmann/Germany effect. You mean a great assistant that does all the actual work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 He's 100% wrong. Not least because our managers are all fucking horribly unqualified to lead the national team. I think he's angling for the job himself. I wouldn't be averse to it but only on a very short trial. I'm not convinced by Shearer's credentials at all, nor was I when he was here, but he might have a Klinsmann/Germany effect. You mean a great assistant that does all the actual work? I'm well aware of that, for fucksake But he was the catalyst, he knew to have him around, to surround himself with said genius, that the whole German setup needed a revamp. Listen to what Shearer's saying, we've got to keep our internationals in the game so they can use their vast playing experience to their benefit in potential managerial careers. It doesn't have to be the bestest players ever, It's not just about coaching qualifications. On this, he's right, for the long term, if definitely wrong in the short term. Like I said, I thought and think Shearer was an awful manager, in all honesty, but his determination not to be a laughing stock, in theory, would hopefully see him make sure he surrounds himself with the types Jurgen. Personally I think it's time we looked to the long term here, perhaps trial some of these so-called great English talents, instead of giving them 3-4 year contracts, declaring the country's game saved, then realising after the first game what a dreadful mistake we've made. We'll not have the Telegraph around to save us next time. In fairness, I'm not advocating the English approach, but there's really no easy answers here. The problem goes beyond the managerial post, it's the culture of the English within the English game that's the problem. And hey, we're talking man, nae need to be a condescending little wazak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Thought it was funny he listed Lampard, Gerrard and Ferdinand - but not Terry, because fuck that guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 He is 100% correct. I must admit I didn't actually watch the video Just saw the title, and it's very misleading he's not promoting the likes over PArdew or Howe over Wenger and Ponc... like it's suggesting he's promoting the need to keep old English players in the game, which is fair enough although I really don't care if Lampard or Gerard are going to have an easier time to get their coaching badges !! Who on earth is 'Ponc'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 as with many the only english coach i'd personally get behind right now would be howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 If Rangnick really is on the FA's shortlist then I honestly don't think they have a clue what they want, or have any ideas on a philosophy moving forward. Him & Allardyce are like chalk and cheese surely? How can you go from one extreme, to the other within months? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 The England manager absolutely should be English, no two ways about it. Unfortunately they're all terrible though so there's little else to do other than look elsewhere. Shearer's just after the job himself though, that's all that's about.. It would be a wildly unpopular appointment though, I think the majority would be against it aside from a certain percentage of our fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Shearer should stay well clear of the England job - he would be slaughtered from the start. Have the Telegraph outed anyone else this morning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Think they've said that they've not got anymore names in the Football4Sale stuff for now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Wenger would be delighted at the chance to manage an international side and not worry about signing people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 oddly I think based on current form the england team could be pretty tasty, a midfield of alli dier and lallana behind a front three of walcott sterling and rashford looks pretty strong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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number9shirt Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I assume the inclusion of Glen Johnson is a clerical error Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 He is 100% correct. I must admit I didn't actually watch the video Just saw the title, and it's very misleading he's not promoting the likes over PArdew or Howe over Wenger and Ponc... like it's suggesting he's promoting the need to keep old English players in the game, which is fair enough although I really don't care if Lampard or Gerard are going to have an easier time to get their coaching badges !! Who on earth is 'Ponc'? I can't bloody spell his name, the Spuds boss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 He is 100% correct. I must admit I didn't actually watch the video Just saw the title, and it's very misleading he's not promoting the likes over PArdew or Howe over Wenger and Ponc... like it's suggesting he's promoting the need to keep old English players in the game, which is fair enough although I really don't care if Lampard or Gerard are going to have an easier time to get their coaching badges !! Who on earth is 'Ponc'? I can't bloody spell his name, the Spuds boss "Poch" you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Glen Johnson, wtf?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 :lol: as i posted earlier genuinely forgot he existed till heard his name on radio about Stoke game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 The England manager absolutely should be English, no two ways about it. Unfortunately they're all terrible though so there's little else to do other than look elsewhere. apparently there are two ways about it after all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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