Klaus Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Always had my suspicions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Bah, fucking coonts the lot of ya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 With this one transfer, we at least showed: 1. Ashley will pay a large sum for a player. 2. Charnley, in spite of a shocking signature, can finalise a deal. 3. A player of high renown actually still wants to come here. 4. There is at least a tiny atom of ambition in the cold heart of the fat man. By no means does this make up for the last few windows and the staggering ineptitude of the last 8 months, but it's nice to have something to enjoy about supporting Newcastle. Airport photos, YouTube scouting, it's been a while since we had a legitimately good transfer for an established talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 With this one transfer, we at least showed: 1. Ashley will pay a large sum for a player. 2. Charnley, in spite of a shocking signature, can finalise a deal. 3. A player of high renown actually still wants to come here. 4. There is at least a tiny atom of ambition in the cold heart of the fat man. By no means does this make up for the last few windows and the staggering ineptitude of the last 8 months, but it's nice to have something to enjoy about supporting Newcastle. Airport photos, YouTube scouting, it's been a while since we had a legitimately good transfer for an established talent. First sign good but I wait to see the team which starts the season - need imho another 4 or 5 in first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 more interested in coon coin? poon? raccoon? macaroon? black people? http://pre02.deviantart.net/1715/th/pre/f/2013/213/e/0/south_park_action_poses___the_coon_1_by_megasupermoon-d6g51a0.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/georginio-wijnaldum-wasnt-football-young-6052840 Deluded Georgies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/georginio-wijnaldum-wasnt-football-young-6052840 Deluded Georgies. “In Holland they say a lot of teams in the Premier League play kick-and-run. Steve McClaren wants us to play football. “I saw that when he was trainer at Twente. He has the same plans with Newcastle. I like that kind of football.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The poll question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 The poll question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Uses the word soccer 3 times in a direct quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Can't wait to hear the atmosphere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Just been reading a psv forum about winegum. General opinion is we have paid over the odds tbf. Also had the opinion where have "deep, deep pockets" and "spend silly money on players that only played good for 6 month" (€12mill Anita) "Buy players without any plan just chucking money away" http://forum.psv.nl/showthread.php?5096-Georginio-Wijnaldum-(A-M)/page134&s=a6b4f9c5ceeafa09d8f64fcd0aed8033 Open using chrome will automatically translate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Just been reading a psv forum about winegum. General opinion is we have paid over the odds tbf. Also had the opinion where have "deep, deep pockets" and "spend silly money on players that only played good for 6 month" (€12mill Anita) "Buy players without any plan just chucking money away" http://forum.psv.nl/showthread.php?5096-Georginio-Wijnaldum-(A-M)/page134&s=a6b4f9c5ceeafa09d8f64fcd0aed8033 Open using chrome will automatically translate. So, Memphis Depay goes for over £20m and he didn't achieve "Dutch Player of the Season 14/15", yet Wijnaldum did and isn't worth £14.5m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Of course they think we paid over the odds, they're a Dutch side and have little money coming in by comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyAnth Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Bad news guys. Hope we kept the receipt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I don't agree with them, just placed link for the forum up and picked a couple of quotes and placed a link for anyone interested. For all I know we could have got a bargain or bought a flop. Never heard of him before we signed. Of course they think we paid over the odds, they're a Dutch side and have little money coming in by comparison. I actually don't get how that argument works, he's an asset and had a set guide price whoever and wherever the buyer is coming from? Surely if your selling, wether you skint or flush your asset doesn't gain or loose value when it has nothing to do with your commercial revenue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 He has a quiet confidence about him. Think he will be a big success here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I don't agree with them, just placed link for the forum up and picked a couple of quotes and placed a link for anyone interested. For all I know we could have got a bargain or bought a flop. Never heard of him before we signed. Of course they think we paid over the odds, they're a Dutch side and have little money coming in by comparison. I actually don't get how that argument works, he's an asset and had a set guide price whoever and wherever the buyer is coming from? Surely if your selling, wether you skint or flush your asset doesn't gain or loose value when it has nothing to do with your commercial revenue? Alreet Alan Sugar, calm down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hate being all negative but nowadays signing a player like this means 1 of 2 things. He'll either be a flop and not adapt to English football or he'll be a hit and Ashley will have cashed in on him within 2 years. Bids will come in as other clubs know we are eager sellers. Gone are the days where we'd find ourselves a top player and build a team around them which a club the size of NUFC should be able to do. Just can't get myself excited about any signings anymore which is pretty sad really. Suppose if he's good just enjoy him whilst we can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hate being all negative but nowadays signing a player like this means 1 of 2 things. He'll either be a flop and not adapt to English football or he'll be a hit and Ashley will have cashed in on him within 2 years. Bids will come in as other clubs know we are eager sellers. Gone are the days where we'd find ourselves a top player and build a team around them which a club the size of NUFC should be able to do. Just can't get myself excited about any signings anymore which is pretty sad really. Suppose if he's good just enjoy him whilst we can. Thing is, unless you're Barca or Real Madrid then you're always liable to having your best players taken from you. I have no real issue with that. It's the fact that we've never re-invested the funds received that has always been the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hate being all negative but nowadays signing a player like this means 1 of 2 things. He'll either be a flop and not adapt to English football or he'll be a hit and Ashley will have cashed in on him within 2 years. Bids will come in as other clubs know we are eager sellers. Gone are the days where we'd find ourselves a top player and build a team around them which a club the size of NUFC should be able to do. Just can't get myself excited about any signings anymore which is pretty sad really. Suppose if he's good just enjoy him whilst we can. Thing is, unless you're Barca or Real Madrid then you're always liable to having your best players taken from you. I have no real issue with that. It's the fact that we've never re-invested the funds received that has always been the issue. This. As long as the overall balance of the sqaud/quality of the squad stays consistent and improves with the new players, I have no issue with players going. Unless we break into the top 4, decent players (mainly coming for outside the UK) coming to us and doing well will inevitably get attention from bigger clubs, if we profit from that great - as long as it goes back into the team!! Just look at Southampton as a blue print - they have proved (albeit for only 1 season) that you can loose 2 or 3 quality players if you quickly replace them and have a decent manager in place that is able to adapt quickly. Be interesting to see if they can replicate that this season however as the core of what was a pretty decent team is almost entirely gone now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Hate being all negative but nowadays signing a player like this means 1 of 2 things. He'll either be a flop and not adapt to English football or he'll be a hit and Ashley will have cashed in on him within 2 years. Bids will come in as other clubs know we are eager sellers. Gone are the days where we'd find ourselves a top player and build a team around them which a club the size of NUFC should be able to do. Just can't get myself excited about any signings anymore which is pretty sad really. Suppose if he's good just enjoy him whilst we can. Thing is, unless you're Barca or Real Madrid then you're always liable to having your best players taken from you. I have no real issue with that. It's the fact that we've never re-invested the funds received that has always been the issue. To an extent. However we actively encourage bids for our best players, especially in the build up to the January transfer window when it's a sellers market and Ashley knows he'll get way over market value. It's not that long ago we had the 8th highest revenue in Europe. We're a big club, one of the biggest in the country, that's been downsized to a Southampton sized club and the sad thing is that a lot of fans have just accepted that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Aye, there's a difference between losing your best players and actively hawking them round the league. Hopefully that'll change with a Pardewless club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Ronald de Boer has said that Newcastle fans are getting too carried away with the signing of Georginio Wijnaldum and that he will struggle to meet their ‘lofty expectations’. The brother of Ajax Manager Frank, de Boer says that whilst the new signing is ‘an excellent team player’, he still relies on getting a lot of chances to score. His most extreme comment though is that he claims too much pressure is being put on the former PSV attacking midfielder, because Newcastle fans are carrying on as though he will single-handedly transform United into Premier League title challengers. I have some friends who are capable of getting very drunk, but I still haven’t heard even them claim anything close to this. As ever, people on the outside easily fall into the trap of mistaking the enthusiasm of Newcastle fans for expectation of something happening. After no transfers at all in three of the last four transfer windows and then a very mixed bag from last summer’s activity, is it any wonder that Newcastle fans are jubilant when they sign a player of Georginio Wijnaldum’s quality and profile. A player who it was assumed would end up at a club playing Champions League football next season. Player of the year in Holland last season, the fact that Wijnaldum led his teammates to a season of absolutely smashing an Ajax team led by Ronald de Boer’s brother will no doubt have played a part in this petty reaction to the player’s move. PSV wrapped up the Dutch title by April and eventually finished a massive 17 points ahead of Ajax. Ronal de Boer speaking to (writing for) Voetbal International in Holland: “In Newcastle, Wijnaldum is being hailed as a great saviour. Georginio is a great football player, but not the type that guides a mid-table English club to the championship, and that is the atmosphere which is being created in Newcastle. “Wijnaldum is an excellent team player, but for example, he still needs a lot of chances to score. “In England this is conveniently ignored. With the current hype in Newcastle it will be difficult for Wijnaldum to meet the lofty expectations.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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