Kanj Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Lucas, Shelvey, Saivet, Tiote, Hayden, Colback, Anita Surely would see a few of them sold if that were the case? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 What is a Saivet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Whatever we get I will be glad to see the back of Wini, clearly one of the worst personalities ever associated with the club. Good riddance and I hope he fails for the rest of his life and ends up destitute and bankrupt and loveless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Couldn't give a shite what happens to him, the fact he's clearly way more talented than Sissoko actually makes him worse IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I don't get why we'd be emo over Gini when everyone else was shit too. We're all happy now anyway aren't we? Rafa and all that. Let bygones be bygones. I'd rather we kept better players. He's one of the better players. Despite the delightful cliche, I'd much rather we had one Gini than two £9m Championship-style try hards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 It's not about who played shit, it was about who gave a shit and though we had a number of problems with Sissoko's consistency and effort, he would put a shift in for say 1 in 3 games even when we were struggling. He even played left back under Rafa and did a good job when he could have sulked. Wini just pouted and sulked all season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 There were about two players in the entire squad who gave a shit. The rest did fuck all. And 1 in 3 games for Sissoko is most fucking generous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The weird thing about Wijnaldum is that he seemed such a genuine and down to earth guy when he joined. I'm still not convinced his problems aren't either to do with confidence or ability rather than attitude/application. Maybe he's just talented but he doesn't have what it takes to really apply it at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The weird thing about Wijnaldum is that he seemed such a genuine and down to earth guy when he joined. I'm still not convinced his problems aren't either to do with confidence or ability rather than attitude/application. Maybe he's just talented but he doesn't have what it takes to really apply it at the top level. He couldn't be arsed with playing for a shit team scraping around the bottom of the league. Nothing more to it than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Aye Dave. If Sissoko & Wini are willing to stick around and put the effort in next season will be more than happy to watch them tear the league up. Suspect the best option though is to cash in and get some players in who believe in what Rafa is doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 The weird thing about Wijnaldum is that he seemed such a genuine and down to earth guy when he joined. I'm still not convinced his problems aren't either to do with confidence or ability rather than attitude/application. Maybe he's just talented but he doesn't have what it takes to really apply it at the top level. He couldn't be arsed with playing for a s*** team scraping around the bottom of the league. Nothing more to it than that. I hoped it was that for a while, but he barely tried half the time, and could turn it on now and then for the tv cameras. I defended him a little as season progressed but now looking back clear as day as to what was going on. He'll probably do well if he goes to Liverpool, but when it counts he's a coward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I thought Wijnaldum looked invisible for Holland when we played them as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Every player should charge in like Cattermole and run around like a headless chicken Shelvey style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I thought Wijnaldum looked invisible for Holland when we played them as well. He was against Ireland too. He's a talented footballer that spends most of the time not wanting to have any influence on the game. That's why I dislike him. And also his comments after the season ended Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Every player should charge in like Cattermole and run around like a headless chicken Shelvey style There only two types of player - invisible, gutless twat or Cattermole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I'm over the grudges. We got rid of Colo and Saylor and I'm happy. The rest more or less will add to our promotion push - esp guys like Sissoko and Gini. Rafa will only field them if their heads are on right, if not, he'll sit them - he's not afraid of that. I trust our manager and whatever he decides to. These long grudges are unhealthy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Played most of the season under the hopeless McClaren in a team bereft of confidence and still cobbled up 11 goals in his debut season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Played most of the season under the hopeless McClaren. For this reason alone, I would be willing to give any player another chance ( except colback), providing they express they are willing,- if not- Ta ra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gomez Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Looked world class for about 70 seconds per game. While Sissoko grew in the last month or so under Rafa, Wijnaldum didn't do much. One of the most talented player we've had in ages but about 5% as consistant as HBA.. Got to laugh at the Liverpool fan I read expecting a "physical presence in the middle". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 1st year in a new country and completely different more physically demanding league, thrown into a horrific coaching set up and team with zero morale. Think he would have shown his class here in time and certainly will at liverpool. There is far too much go for the jugular and scapegoating here when there could have been plenty of reasons at play. Regardless the end result is the same, he wasnt consistently good enough, so I understand some hesitancy, just not the pitch forks coming out for the witch hunt. If we had stayed up half the OTT posters would be fawning over his potential and have the opposite reaction to selling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I agree with most of that Although the misspelling of juggler is criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I agree with most of that Although the misspelling of juggler is criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I agree with most of that Although the misspelling of juggler is criminal. ;D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Don't want Flanagan. He's so ugly he hurts my eyes. What kind of post is this? I thought Flanagan was great two years ago and could have been in the England team for the World Cup. But he's played like five games since then so it'd be a huge risk. As a footballer, he seems very intelligent. I remember that good Flanagan, so what happened last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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